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WASHINGTON: The United States has sent a handful of military trainers back into Pakistan in a sign the two nations may be able to achieve some low-level cooperation against militants despite a string of confrontations that have left Washington’s relations with Islamabad in crisis.
Fewer than 10 US special operations soldiers have been sent to a training site near the border city of Peshawar, where they will instruct trainers from Pakistan’s Frontier Corps in counter-insurgency warfare, a US official said.
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The number of American military instructors in Pakistan dropped to zero after US aircraft killed 24 Pakistani soldiers in late November. Nato labeled the border incident an accident but it enraged Pakistanis and sent already tense ties with the United States into a tailspin.
“I wouldn’t call this a watershed moment (but) it’s not insignificant that this is happening,” the US official said on condition of anonymity.
The picture is less encouraging on cooperation between US and Pakistani intelligence, which several American officials said remained dire as Pakistani officials resist easing restrictions on issuing visas to US intelligence personnel.
In retaliation for the border deaths, Pakistan also shut down ground supply routes crucial for keeping US and Nato soldiers equipped in neighboring Afghanistan, and clamped down on US military personnel operating in Pakistan.
“At a strategic level, the relationship is still at a very rough place,” the official said.
“There’s a lot more we want to do to improve it, but (the trainers’ return) is an important sign that at least in some areas we’re getting a healthy sense of normalcy.”
Normalcy is relative when it comes to relations between the United States and Pakistan, which are nominally allied against Islamist militants but have been frequently pitted against each other in a string of mutual recriminations.
Those include Pakistan’s jailing of a Pakistani doctor who helped the United States hunt down Osama bin Laden last year, as well as the US raid that killed bin Laden, which Islamabad was not informed of beforehand.
At a Nato summit in Chicago this month, President Barack Obama snubbed his Pakistani counterpart, Asif Ali Zardari, by refusing to hold a meeting with him because Pakistan had not reopened the supply routes.
US and Pakistani talks aimed at reopening those routes – which becomes more important as Nato nations prepare to withdraw from Afghanistan – appear to be deadlocked over how much supply trucks must pay on their way through Pakistan.
Intelligence cooperation has been strained since the arrest last year of CIA contractor Raymond Davis, whose killing of two Pakistanis in Lahore fueled Pakistanis’ suspicions about American spies roaming their cities.
Military cooperation may be easier to repair, as some of Pakistan’s military leaders were trained in the United States and have more friendly ties with the Pentagon.
In the past, there had been some 200 to 300 US military personnel stationed in Pakistan, many of them training Pakistan special forces to confront militants.
But Islamabad sharply reduced the size of the mission after the bin Laden raid.

Source: US military trainers trickle back into Pakistan – The Express Tribune
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Now this is just plain sad :(
 
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Why are we setting ourselves up to have a foreign, probably hostile state in the future, get intelligence on our military? I mean that's the only thing these American terrorists are here to do, other than possibly support TTP/BLA. No one rational is going to believe these guys are really here to train. No one acts so desperate just to get some trainers in.
 
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Why are we setting ourselves up to have a foreign, probably hostile state in the future, get intelligence on our military? I mean that's the only thing these American terrorists are here to do, other than possibly support TTP/BLA. No one rational is going to believe these guys are really here to train. No one acts so desperate just to get some trainers in.

Because there might be pressure which you cannot handle.
 
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So are you saying that these guys are either

a) trying to get intelligence on Pakistani military infrastructure or
b) support TTP/BLA?
 
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10 guys are a threat to pakistan, yea right.

May be i know its a radical idea, they are there to do what they say?
 
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WASHINGTON: The United States has sent a handful of military trainers back into Pakistan in a sign the two nations may be able to achieve some low-level cooperation against militants despite a string of confrontations that have left Washington’s relations with Islamabad in crisis.
Fewer than 10 US special operations soldiers have been sent to a training site near the border city of Peshawar, where they will instruct trainers from Pakistan’s Frontier Corps in counter-insurgency warfare, a US official said.
Source: US military trainers trickle back into Pakistan – The Express Tribune
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So what does this means??? our Army is incapable of fighting terrorists??? I guess its shame for our Pak Army to get trainers from any foreign country and especially from USA under present circumstances.......Anyways goodluck guyz if U do mistakes/blunderz U gonna pay for that too......umm.......:smokin:
 
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Very interesting -- Pakistan officially denies that there are any US trainers in Pakistan --- US policy makers need to get even more tough with Pakistan
 
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Very interesting -- Pakistan officially denies that there are any US trainers in Pakistan --- US policy makers need to get even more tough with Pakistan

Of course they are going to deny it. If you are a politician dealing with pro Taliban and Al Qaeda populace of course you try to hide it. News media likes to leak out these things. And in any case listen to China's sage advice about your relationship with the U.S.
 
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(Reuters) - The United States has sent a handful of military trainers back into Pakistan in a sign the two nations may be able to achieve some low-level cooperation against militants despite a string of confrontations that have left Washington's relations with Islamabad in crisis.

Fewer than 10 U.S. special operations soldiers have been sent to a training site near the border city of Peshawar, where they will instruct trainers from Pakistan's Frontier Corps in counter-insurgency warfare, a U.S. official said.

The number of American military instructors in Pakistan dropped to zero after U.S. aircraft killed 24 Pakistani soldiers in late November. NATO labeled the border incident an accident but it enraged Pakistanis and sent already tense ties with the United States into a tailspin.

"I wouldn't call this a watershed moment (but) it's not insignificant that this is happening," the U.S. official said on condition of anonymity.

The picture is less encouraging on cooperation between U.S. and Pakistani intelligence, which several American officials said remained dire as Pakistani officials resist easing restrictions on issuing visas to U.S. intelligence personnel.

In retaliation for the border deaths, Pakistan also shut down ground supply routes crucial for keeping U.S. and NATO soldiers equipped in neighboring Afghanistan, and clamped down on U.S. military personnel operating in Pakistan.

"At a strategic level, the relationship is still at a very rough place," the official said.

"There's a lot more we want to do to improve it, but (the trainers' return) is an important sign that at least in some areas we're getting a healthy sense of normalcy."

Normalcy is relative when it comes to relations between the United States and Pakistan, which are nominally allied against Islamist militants but have been frequently pitted against each other in a string of mutual recriminations.

Those include Pakistan's jailing of a Pakistani doctor who helped the United States hunt down Osama bin Laden last year, as well as the U.S. raid that killed bin Laden, which Islamabad was not informed of beforehand.

At a NATO summit in Chicago this month, President Barack Obama snubbed his Pakistani counterpart, Asif Ali Zardari, by refusing to hold a meeting with him because Pakistan had not reopened the supply routes.

U.S. and Pakistani talks aimed at reopening those routes - which becomes more important as NATO nations prepare to withdraw from Afghanistan - appear to be deadlocked over how much supply trucks must pay on their way through Pakistan.

Intelligence cooperation has been strained since the arrest last year of CIA contractor Raymond Davis, whose killing of two Pakistanis in Lahore fueled Pakistanis' suspicions about American spies roaming their cities.

Military cooperation may be easier to repair, as some of Pakistan's military leaders were trained in the United States and have more friendly ties with the Pentagon.

In the past, there had been some 200 to 300 U.S. military personnel stationed in Pakistan, many of them training Pakistan special forces to confront militants.

But Islamabad sharply reduced the size of the mission after the bin Laden raid.

(Editing by Warren Strobel and Christopher Wilson)

U.S. military trainers trickle back into Pakistan | Reuters
 
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Why are we setting ourselves up to have a foreign, probably hostile state in the future, get intelligence on our military? I mean that's the only thing these American terrorists are here to do, other than possibly support TTP/BLA. No one rational is going to believe these guys are really here to train. No one acts so desperate just to get some trainers in.

My thoughts exactly.
 
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Why are we setting ourselves up to have a foreign, probably hostile state in the future, get intelligence on our military? I mean that's the only thing these American terrorists are here to do, other than possibly support TTP/BLA. No one rational is going to believe these guys are really here to train. No one acts so desperate just to get some trainers in.

That be like saying why do Pakistani military personnel come to the U.S. But its a good question and something you need to ask the leaders of Pakistan. Who knows maybe the Pakistani military are supporting the American terrorists to kill their own people. *shocked
 
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That be like saying why do Pakistani military personnel come to the U.S. But its a good question and something you need to ask the leaders of Pakistan. Who knows maybe the Pakistani military are supporting the American terrorists to kill their own people. *shocked

What would we Pakistanis possibly gain if we tried to gather intelligence from the US? Mind you, some of our ISI agents were caught in America, but those were for other reasons.
 
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