US Hunting For More Military Bases To Cripple China; India One Of The Options: Top US Official

[Smarana Mitra]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-09-19-9103110068-story,amp.html

How many sorties does an IAF mig perform in a high intensity war? Ans - 3 if at a FOB, 4 if present in at a repair base.

Now what is the flight time a Mig can stay on station with full combat load?

Having 6 BVRAAM missile is not full payload. A BVRAAM like R73 weighs 150kg. Also, generally, a plane carries some WVRAAMs too instead of all BVRAAMs. So, a Mig21 carrying 4 WVRAAM and 2 BVRAAM will be carrying a total of 750kgs. This is not even close to full load. A plane is generally built to carry a heavy ground bomb which in this case is non existent as it is only an air to air mission.

Secondly, the source you are quoting is unavailable. Also, in a war like situation, a Mig21 can carry much more than 3 sorties. A pilot may have to be replaced due to fatigue. A sorty typically lasts an hour

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

India has the opportunity of a lifetime, they can grab even more of Top-notch American Technology, Give US the base and you will be rewarded.

From our own past experiences with Uncle Sam, don't see a very bright future for India in the long run. There will be no free India anymore to start with.

 

[Goritoes]

From our own past experiences with Uncle Sam, don't see a very bright future for India in the long run. There will be no free India anymore to start with.

 

[vishwambhar]

Compared to other QUAD nations except USA, we have large military and nuclear weapons. Though not modernized



India already has its BMD programs for that


Any modern confict with Pakistan or China will be limited to small scale conflicts like Kargil/Siachen

Even if USA has bases on India, US will not intervene in such conflicts, unless it is looking for an excuse


India is already spending low on defence


Indian naval assets on those suffice for now as PLAN is incapable of projecting power near Indian Coastline



Philippines had US bases when it lost territory to China


Learn from Pakistani experiences in 1971, Islamic nations aid them militarily, American and British sent their naval assets to Indian ocean, Pakistan was part of SEATO/CENTO then
How did it end for Pakistan?

American technological/intelligence assistance will be there in the event of Conflict with China, rest is up to Indian military

You are right on Phillipines part but India will be a part of QUAD which is specifically designed for china.....

and we should make it clear that if USA wants bases in India for containing China then protection of India from Chinese or Pakistani invasion will be a responsibility of US.....

South Vietnam was a US treaty ally on the same level as Japan and South Korea.

Where is South Vietnam today?

That time was different.... If US had to fight and save South Vietnam today then it would have been a day light slaughter of North Vietnam..... In 56 US did a mistake to fight a ground war in the jungles of Vietnam.....

Your forgetting the RUSSIAN factor. Banking all your eggs in favor of US will be very risky. You ll not only annoy china but Russians will also severe ties with you. SCO will become a formidable alliance in the absence of India to counter QUAD. Also having two major powers RUssia and China against you as a neighbor will be much more difficult to deal with. Do take into account that China is going to surpass US in another decade or so. US is no one's friend and India will lose a lot.
I think Modi's India policies are driven more by emotions. India has more to gain from having a friendly neighborhood (Give and take policy for conflict resolution) than serving the interests of a superpower in decline.

US is more trustworthy than the snake Russia who always have shown double standards when it comes to China vs India.... At least US openly offering QUAD which is Anti china ganging up....

 

[vishwambhar]

Imo,you got it the wrong way,if not for American interference,Korea would have been a socialist, united and strong nation , the 2nd/3rd biggest economy in their world. US didn't protect S.Korea from N.Korean nuclear warheads;it's N.Korea that had to develop nuclear warheads to protect itself from being turned into the next libya,by the US military stationed right across their border.

China don't see India as their competitor,what china will do in such an event is ,it will prop up Pakistan in such a way that Pakistan might overwhelm India in real high stake warfare technologies that are inconceivable to Indian lvl of technological prowess.

China herself is not that capable yet forget about posting Pakistan on that level....

 

[Vapnope]

we should make it clear that if USA wants bases in India for containing China then protection of India from Chinese or Pakistani invasion will be a responsibility of US.....

Don't you think that asymmetrical warfare will increase in India?

 

[vishwambhar]

Don't you think that asymmetrical warfare will increase in India?

I don't at all think so..... and even if it does to some extent then RAW and Indian other security agencies are capable of taking care of it especially with strong US military presence in the country to take care of outside enemies....

 

[Trango Towers]

If India gives America bases.
Chine will invest greater military tech in Pakistan

America will never fight for India

I don't at all think so..... and even if it does to some extent then RAW and Indian other security agencies are capable of taking care of it especially with strong US military presence in the country to take care of outside enemies....

Yes they handled Afghanistan well

 

[Smarana Mitra]

If India gives America bases.
Chine will invest greater military tech in Pakistan

America will never fight for India

Yes they handled Afghanistan well

Why argue with him? He is beyond reason and a coward.

 

[khansaheeb]

If America makes bases in India then China should make bases in Pakistan.

Why? We can deal with issues ourselves.

 

[Asif Mayet]

What happened to SUPAPAWA India, I thought India can take on all its neighbours simultaneusly. China has really shattered your nerves permanently.

Dream of the so called " Akhand Bharat " shattered by China and consigned to the dustbin of History

 

[Kingslayerr]

From our own past experiences with Uncle Sam, don't see a very bright future for India in the long run. There will be no free India anymore to start with.

Not good for Pakistan for US to establish bases in india.
1. Like the 1980s when pak-US were on good terms, we enjoyed good relations with top notch equipment, exercise and what not. We were rewarded for our work, dams, development was being done all because we were the good ally and most importantly OUR GOALS WERE THE SAME i.e drag soviets out. And we archived that. Like that time today goals of india and US are same so if india allows US to have bases then it'll be a really big blow for pak. I doubt even in skirmishes pak will not be allowed to bomb india like 27th.

You are right on Phillipines part but India will be a part of QUAD which is specifically designed for china.....

and we should make it clear that if USA wants bases in India for containing China then protection of India from Chinese or Pakistani invasion will be a responsibility of US......

US will not be in india to baby sit your dumb ***. They'll use their spy planes to gather info over pak, china, russia etc further damaging your relations with your neighbors, it wont deploy fighter jets for you and why would they, war is not a game of cricket. US will let you get beat in a 2 front war with china pak and will only push for talks nothing more, nobody wants nuclear weapons to be used and will give out statement like "WE ARE CONCERNED" and what not. Also do remember after further damaging your relations with your neighbors one day or another THEY WILL LEAVE, that is the time everyone will take their revenge against you when no one will be protecting you. US will leave but we will stay.

 

[VkdIndian]

US getting bases in India is unlikely. QUAD etc may have changed the winds a little in favour of US but every second guy I meet here is suspicious of US. There is an underlying distrust towards US. This is because of historical image of US moving in its 7th fleet into the Bay of Bengal. There are many other instances when US played dirty. The fact that US sold weapons to Pakistan is also quoted as one of the reasons. That distrust is unlikely to go away anytime soon. Any political party allowing bases to the US would be playing a big gamble which would be exploited by those in the opposition. I don’t see any political party taking such a risk.

The second and more important part is that unlike some other US allies India has maintained a robust and independent space in geo-politics. While it joined QUAD and bought weapons from the US, it also ensured good relations with Russia and bought weapons from many other countries. This has given it an image of not being under the US control. Allowing bases to US in India might compromise that image and stance.

Military cooperation if any would be restricted to joint exercises and providing refueling etc. There is already an agreement for mutual provisioning of military logistical support. And whatever is mandated under QUAD which is sharing of intel, jointness of Ops etc.

Permanent base seems completely out of question in the present scenario.

 

[SpaceMan18]

This is how I see it , America will play dirty with both India and China