US Hunting For More Military Bases To Cripple China; India One Of The Options: Top US Official

[kris]

Because it's a strong step that shows unprecedented close relationships with USA. Russia may take this step as a step against their strong ally.

But can't do much.... They are in bed with china and expect india to be in line...
Not correct

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

I fully support US bases in India..... We are a QUAD country but militarily and economically we are the weakest country in QUAD.....

Compared to other QUAD nations except USA, we have large military and nuclear weapons. Though not modernized

1) USA can bring India under it's ballistic missile defence shield.....

India already has its BMD programs for that

2) If we allow them bases then we don't have to worry about China or Pakistan military threat as US army in India is a best deterrence factor....

Any modern confict with Pakistan or China will be limited to small scale conflicts like Kargil/Siachen

Even if USA has bases on India, US will not intervene in such conflicts, unless it is looking for an excuse

3) We can reduce defence spending and have a breathing space to bring our economy back on track which has suffered these 2 years by covid situation....

India is already spending low on defence

4) Not only mainland India but we should allow a naval base in Andaman Islands and lakshdweep Islands for entire QUAD which will be a huge threat to China trade lines in Malacca and sunda or even to connect to gwadar via sea lines in case if there is a full scale war with China.....

Indian naval assets on those suffice for now as PLAN is incapable of projecting power near Indian Coastline

After all which country will dare to knock your door when you have USA sitting outside to protect you.....

Philippines had US bases when it lost territory to China


Learn from Pakistani experiences in 1971, Islamic nations aid them militarily, American and British sent their naval assets to Indian ocean, Pakistan was part of SEATO/CENTO then
How did it end for Pakistan?

American technological/intelligence assistance will be there in the event of Conflict with China, rest is up to Indian military

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Fine, Russia and China have no need for such a type but why did the Indian government purchase it ?

Indian govt purchases many things which are not strategic due to political and economic needs. India wanted to appease USA who was angry that India was having huge trade surplus with it. Since India has nothing else to buy from USA, it decided to buy some non strategic arms. Also, these are slightly novel equipments and hence bought them

Compared to other QUAD nations except USA, we have large military and nuclear weapons. Though not modernized

India has BMD, SAM, ballistic missiles, Brahmos, Su30 and many other indigenously made equipments. Very few countries in the world have these. I don't see why you would say that Indian army is not modernised

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Indian govt purchases many things which are not strategic due to political and economic needs. India wanted to appease USA who was angry that India was having huge trade surplus with it. Since India has nothing else to buy from USA, it decided to buy some non strategic arms. Also, these are slightly novel equipments and hence bought them

India has BMD, SAM, ballistic missiles, Brahmos, Su30 and many other indigenously made equipments. Very few countries in the world have these. I don't see why you would say that Indian army is not modernised

Indian military remains a "mass mobilization army" and efforts being made to ensure we can fight small scale wars

India is ahead in space and strategic weapons but behind in conventional weapons
For instance we lack a much needed UCAV fleet, non-existent stealth fighters etc

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Indian military remains a "mass mobilization army" and efforts being made to ensure we can fight small scale wars

India is ahead in space and strategic weapons but behind in conventional weapons
For instance we lack a much needed UCAV fleet, non-existent stealth fighters etc

Indian army's objective is to defeat big enemies. Small scale wars require different strategies which don't match with mass scale war. UCAV is not really useful for Indian scenario. That is why India is developing advanced UAV - Rustom2 which has one of the best sensors of all UAVs. Stealth fighters is something only USA has. So, that is not a sign of modernisation

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Indian army's objective is to defeat big enemies. Small scale wars require different strategies which don't match with mass scale war. UCAV is not really useful for Indian scenario.

UCAV are very valuable in small scale conflicts like Kargil or Siachen

That is why India is developing advanced UAV - Rustom2 which has one of the best sensors of all UAVs. Stealth fighters is something only USA has. So, that is not a sign of modernisation

Chinese do and American allies will acquire F-35s soon

 

[Smarana Mitra]

UCAV are very valuable in small scale conflicts like Kargil or Siachen

In Kargil war, a Mig21 was shot down. What use will a drone do? Mig21>> UCAV and yet was downed. What is most important is suveillance and that is why India is developing Rustom2 with advanced sensors. If enemy location is known, it will be too easy to destroy it with artillery. Most artillery can cover 30+km range which is more than enough for small battles.

Chinese do and American allies will acquire F-35s soon

Chinese & Russian stealth fighters are not yet ready. They are still under heavy development. They don't really count

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

In Kargil war, a Mig21 was shot down. What use will a drone do? Mig21>> UCAV and yet was downed. What is most important is suveillance and that is why India is developing Rustom2 with advanced sensors. If enemy location is known, it will be too easy to destroy it with artillery. Most artillery can cover 30+km range which is more than enough for small battles.

Cost of UCAV vs Mig21
One can mass produce UCAVs unlike Mig21
No loss pilot (training them is very expensive)

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Cost of UCAV vs Mig21
One can mass produce UCAVs unlike Mig21
No loss pilot (training them is very expensive)

But a single Mig21 can down 6 UCAVs in a single sorty. Then it can keep returning to eliminate more UCAVs every sorty. UCAVs are sitting ducks against AAM attacks and SAM. As we saw in Kargil or Balakot conflicts, PAF uses air force or air defence even in small conflicts. So, UCAV will be swatted out like flies. UCAvs don't have powerful radars due to low powered engines and hence can't have AAM missile for dogfighting

 

[Paro_Peagus]

But a single Mig21 can down 6 UCAVs in a single sorty. Then it can keep returning to eliminate more UCAVs every sorty. UCAVs are sitting ducks against AAM attacks and SAM. As we saw in Kargil or Balakot conflicts, PAF uses air force or air defence even in small conflicts. So, UCAV will be swatted out like flies. UCAvs don't have powerful radars due to low powered engines and hence can't have AAM missile for dogfighting

You don't fire a SAM or waste a sortie of your aircraft until you really have to in wartime. It gives away its location. UAVs are used for probing your defenses and ground support. Used smartly they will turn the tables (first gulf war).

 

[Azadkashmir]

in this game west vs east, india is the dupe who will be sacarificed and west will go home with huge grin on their face. west, "dont worry panjeet we be there for you", & india, phull sapport sir i hate porkistan and ching chong china, britain give us freedom, muslim enslaved us 1000 years, my name is now paul".

 

[Smarana Mitra]

You don't fire a SAM or waste a sortie of your aircraft until you really have to in wartime. It gives away its location. UAVs are used for probing your defenses and ground support. Used smartly they will turn the tables (first gulf war).

You simply keep making up theories. Sorties are made regularly. SAM firing is generally limited but sorties are not. Peacetime patrolling is done by almost every country which has an airforce as a means of deterrence. Gulf war did not see any major use of drones. It just had a few surveillance drones which were not of much significance but only used as live trials

 

[khansaheeb]

I have read somewhere that India is planning to turn Andaman islands into a massive Air and naval base.

i Believe they are discussing with USA to have both indian & USA warships and bombers based there ,

The islands are right near malacca straights ..........IT would block 80% of china .s Trade

Imagine a USA carrier and dozen destroyers od 50 usa bombers based there.

In return India gets massive investment on USA tech and hardware

win win for all

If it ever materialises on the first day of conflict it will be rubble.

 

[Goritoes]

India has the opportunity of a lifetime, they can grab even more of Top-notch American Technology, Give US the base and you will be rewarded.

 

[Paro_Peagus]

You simply keep making up theories. Sorties are made regularly. SAM firing is generally limited but sorties are not. Peacetime patrolling is done by almost every country which has an airforce as a means of deterrence. Gulf war did not see any major use of drones. It just had a few surveillance drones which were not of much significance but only used as live trials

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1991-09-19-9103110068-story,amp.html

How many sorties does an IAF mig perform in a high intensity war? Ans - 3 if at a FOB, 4 if present in at a repair base.

Now what is the flight time a Mig can stay on station with full combat load?