US 'heartened' at India gang rape case verdict

[Srinivas]

When every thing happened in India and some spectator is commenting on this issue, How is this an embarrassment?

Rape issue is there in societies all over the world, This is USA's opinion simple as that..

what an embarrassing thread...so your master gave you a pat on the head for performing the most rudimentary criminal justice functions, and you rush here to boast to everyone.

 

[Tshering22]

I wish all the 5 were hanged. That @$$%#& Afroz escaped because of being a 'juvenile'. He got a 3 year jail term. It was that bh@#$%^ka who had inserted that metal rod in Nirbhaya.

I wish all these 5 are publicly executed in front of India Gate and their execution is live telecast.

 

[mikkix]

JAI Rapistan...

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

the issue with islamic law is, it is too harsh on the perpetrator. We need to have a balance and proportion. Normal rape (forced penetration) cannot attract same punishment as murder in my view.
It will have limited effect on the crime overall and force rapists to kill the women and dispose dead bodies. So your rape statistics will look nice but lots of strange dead bodies pop up in various places

I don't think that the Islamic punishment for rape is harsh at all. The death penalty in this case would protect the victim & other women from further abuse while also acting as a deterrent. Capital punishments don't always act as deterrents though. For instance, drug traffickers continue to attempt to smuggle drugs in spite of the existence of the death penalty in many countries. It must be noted that as per other legal systems, a capital punishment can only be given out if the accused is proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Since the complexities in such cases vary, the judge could prescribe other punishments that the society deems acceptable. So it doesn't seem likely that the Islamic punishments would end up leading to an increase in the number of dead bodies or murders either. That brings me to the point made in my previous posts though that prevention is better than cure.

 

[livingdead]

I don't think that the Islamic punishment for rape is harsh at all. The death penalty in this case would protect the victim & other women from further abuse while also acting as a deterrent. Capital punishments don't always act as deterrents though. For instance, drug traffickers continue to attempt to smuggle drugs in spite of the existence of the death penalty in many countries. It must be noted that as per other legal systems, a capital punishment can only be given out if the accused is proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt. Since the complexities in such cases vary, the judge could prescribe other punishments that the society deems acceptable. So it doesn't seem likely that the Islamic punishments would end up leading to an increase in the number of dead bodies or murders either. That brings me to the point made in my previous posts though that prevention is better than cure.

are you saying islam prescribes death in certain cases only or all cases, including marital rapes..

 

[Parul]

JAI Rapistan...

Troll, your country is not immune from Rape. Therefore, refrain from taking cheap shoots on such heinous crime. Have a look at # of Rape cases reported from your Country. Now would you dare to take cheap shots against your country???

113 cases of rape, 32 of gang-rape registered - DAWN.COM

@Aeronaut, please look into it.

 

[Panther 57]

are you saying islam prescribes death in certain cases only or all cases, including marital rapes..

There is no explicit description of a marital rape in Islam. It is an accepted fact that couple will have their mutual needs satisfied with mutual consent. There are indications where it has not been liked. This concept of marital rape is an off spring of modern liberalism. There is no such concept of this in any of the religions, may it be Islam, Jewism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc.

 

[livingdead]

There is no explicit description of a marital rape in Islam. It is an accepted fact that couple will have their mutual needs satisfied with mutual consent. There are indications where it has not been liked. This concept of marital rape is an off spring of modern liberalism. There is no such concept of this in any of the religions, may it be Islam, Jewism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc.

ok.. leaving aside marital rape, does islam prescribe death for all rape cases .. i mean is it the default punishment or max punishment

 

[Panther 57]

ok.. leaving aside marital rape, does islam prescribe death for all rape cases .. i mean is it the default punishment or max punishment

Yes it is, because in this case Haqooq Allah and Haqooq ul Ibad both are violated.

 

[Sugarcane]

ok.. leaving aside marital rape, does islam prescribe death for all rape cases .. i mean is it the default punishment or max punishment

Min/Max Punishment is 100 lashes in every case

 

[livingdead]

Yes it is, because in this case Haqooq Allah and Haqooq ul Ibad both are violated.

well then its going to be a problem, people will try to remove evidence by killing the girl. its already difficult to prove rape even when girl is identifying rapist.

 

[Panther 57]

well then its going to be a problem, people will try to remove evidence by killing the girl. its already difficult to prove rape even when girl is identifying rapist.

Well they would otherwise also try such stunts. This does not mean such lunatics should be shown anything lesser.

 

[livingdead]

Well they would otherwise also try such stunts. This does not mean such lunatics should be shown anything lesser.

no they dont.. majority of rape cases you hear .. in almost all of them girl survives. If they kill, they will be tried for murder.
The vast majority of rape cases you hear daily, the victim survives, reports, case filed etc.

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

are you saying islam prescribes death in certain cases only or all cases, including marital rapes..

Capital punishment is prescribed for rape if the perpetrator is proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt or if he confesses to the crime. I am not a scholar so I don't know what the Islamic law is regarding marital rapes, but it should be noted that a man isn't allowed to force his wife in to non-consensual sexual intercourse. That would be considered abuse at least, & no decent human being would find the abuse of any woman acceptable.

 

[livingdead]

Capital punishment is prescribed for rape if the perpetrator is proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt or if he confesses to the crime. I am not a scholar so I don't know what the Islamic law is regarding marital rapes, but it should be noted that a man isn't allowed to force his wife in to non-consensual sexual intercourse either.

yes... it means every case where rape actually happened.. if proven guilty.. he will get death... issue is, the guy will try to kill the girl as it will reduce the chance of him being caught. In any case he is getting death, right?

also dont you think the punishment should be proportional to your crime, how can rape be same as murder?