US eyes tactical withdrawal from Middle East to focus on China

[Titanium100]

This move will only force Arabs to shift towards China, which will eventually make things worse for the US. It seems that the US decline of power is unstoppable at this point.

Years of irrational Iran policies by the US has left them no room for maneuvering. If they decide to stay in the Middle East, China will continue to grow more powerful day by day. If they decide to contain China and spend less resources in the Middle East, they will lose their Arab allies and Iran will get stronger. Isn't it beautiful?

The US absence will only weaken Iran not the other way around which is the opposite. If you remove the US out of the picture it forces many to band together which they have already done.

My prediction is an Arab NATO will invade Iraq and move further inside Iran militarily. in the next 10 years. Currently they are in mobilization stage. The US leaving is nothing but blessing in disguise, All these countries don't see a future with IRGC with or without US. A war is without a shadow of a doubt unavoidable.

It is in the mobilization period unless Iran changes direction it is gonna come with certainity. The Arabs will attack together with other allies in the region. The only reason they are waiting now is waiting until WW3 breaks out but if it doesn't they may be forced to take matters on their own hands and start a major limited war there only eliminating Iran.

The waiting game is tactical by all sides currently and nobody wants to reveal his hands or what cards his playing with but either way. Fighting Iran is as important as fighting gog and magog and something that is obligator on every single arab or Muslim in the region. Iran has already sealed it's fate.. Sometimes you act without realizing the consequences of your action in the long term future

 

[striver44]

The US absence will only weaken Iran not the other way around which is the opposite. If you remove the US out of the picture it forces many to band together which they have already done.

My prediction is an Arab NATO will invade Iraq and move further inside Iran militarily. in the next 10 years. Currently they are in mobilization stage. The US leaving is nothing but blessing in disguise, All these countries don't see a future with IRGC with or without US. A war is without a shadow of a doubt unavoidable.

It is in the mobilization period unless Iran changes direction it is gonna come with certainity. The Arabs will attack together with other allies in the region. The only reason they are waiting now is waiting until WW3 breaks out but if it doesn't they may be forced to take matters on their own hands and start a major limited war there only eliminating Iran

we're likely going to see Iran-Iraq war stalemate again if this happens.

the only capable state military in the middle east is IDF, the rests are clown in arms. you could see how Saudi, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Egyptian troops fought. not very bright I must say.

 

[tower9]

This move will only force Arabs to shift towards China, which will eventually make things worse for the US. It seems that the US decline of power is unstoppable at this point.

Years of irrational Iran policies by the US has left them no room for maneuvering. If they decide to stay in the Middle East, China will continue to grow more powerful day by day. If they decide to contain China and spend less resources in the Middle East, they will lose their Arab allies and Iran will get stronger. Isn't it beautiful?

Ultimately this will be better for the Middle East because China wants stability and economic growth for the region. In contrast to the chaos and terrorism the ZOG has been promoting.

What you see is the begining. The Chinese right now are refining their platforms. Once that has been achieved/lessons learn't they will just go into overdrive. Meaning begin mass manufacture. They will fill the Pacific with ships. They have the production capability. And will have the resources to afford keeping a force larger than anybody afloat. In fact they are about to do what the USA did in early 1900s. That process was complete by 1950.

So by that measure China is where USA was in 1905. Give another 40 years or after 2050 and see what happens. Inevitable march of history.

Absolutely. China has so many parallels with turn of the century America, it’s crazy. China is an enormous industrial power and hasn’t even remotely hit its potential yet.

 

[Titanium100]

we're likely going to see Iran-Iraq war stalemate again if this happens.

the only capable state military in the middle east is IDF, the rests are clown in arms. you could see how Saudi, Syrian, Iraqi, Iranian, Egyptian troops fought. not very bright I must say.

I promise you it won't be a stalemate. This will be decisive. You can't fight Arab NATO just to freaking large coalition and you could add the turkic council + Pakistan on the east but we exclude them. They will be send back to the stone ages.

The only one who can take on Arab NATO is NATO itself or China. They have numbers, numerical logistical advantage. They can fight a attrition war for ages where Iran can't will be overwhelmed and outgunned massively

 

[Arian]

The US absence will only weaken Iran not the other way around which is the opposite. If you remove the US out of the picture it forces many to band together which they have already done.

My prediction is an Arab NATO will invade Iraq and move further inside Iran militarily. in the next 10 years. Currently they are in mobilization stage. The US leaving is nothing but blessing in disguise, All these countries don't see a future with IRGC with or without US. A war is without a shadow of a doubt unavoidable.

It is in the mobilization period unless Iran changes direction it is gonna come with certainity. The Arabs will attack together with other allies in the region. The only reason they are waiting now is waiting until WW3 breaks out but if it doesn't they may be forced to take matters on their own hands and start a major limited war there only eliminating Iran.

The waiting game is tactical by all sides currently and nobody wants to reveal his hands or what cards his playing with but either way. Fighting Iran is as important as fighting gog and magog and something that is obligator on every single arab or Muslim in the region. Iran has already sealed it's fate.. Sometimes you act without realizing the consequences of your action in the long term future

The sum of zeroes is zero. That pretty much sums up everything about Arab armies and people. ;-)

If the US leaves the Middle East, the region will be controlled by Iran and Turkey as we are already seeing the signs of it now. It's just as simple as that.

 

[Muhammed45]

Thanks for the correction of the title which was sensationally chosen.

@mods

 

[Titanium100]

The sum of zeroes is zero. That pretty much sums up everything about Arab armies. ;-)
If the US leaves the Middle East, the region will be controlled by Iran and Turkey. It's just as simple as that.

Oh right.. Sure jen! The same arabs who conquered your ancestors. Never question us when we are motivated and ready to stand for the last day

 

[tower9]

The sum of zeroes is zero. That pretty much sums up everything about Arab armies and people. ;-)

If the US leaves the Middle East, the region will be controlled by Iran and Turkey as we are already seeing the signs of it now. It's just as simple as that.

No I see the Gulf-Israeli alliance as a front in the region alongside Turkey and Iran.

 

[yuba]

The Saudis spend so much on defence and have some of the best equipment I know nothing in defence matters but surely they will be a strong nation in defence. Add the Gulf nations who spend quite a bit will they not have a say in the middle east.

 

[Arian]

Oh right.. Sure jen! The same arabs who conquered your ancestors. Never question us when we are motivated and ready to stand for the last day

And Iran has conquered Arab/Semitic countries a countless times: Parts of Arabia, Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, The UAE, Oman, Egypt, Libya, etc. And right now we are controlling 4 Arab countries in the region: Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Palestine and Qatar is also in the Iran-Turkey camp.

Which proves my point again: the sum of zeroes is zero. And it was proven in the Iraq-Iran war. And once again in Syria and Yemen.

No I see the Gulf-Israeli alliance as a front in the region alongside Turkey and Iran.

A front that has failed to secure even a war-torn country like Yemen after 5 years. They have reached a stalemate with Yemen. That's an unbelievable level of incompetency.

 

[ziaulislam]

its not just about US

Royal Navy has 2 full strength Carriers Strikes Groups (CSG) + a Amphibious ready group (ARG)

Japan has 2 x Izumi Class + 3 x Hyuga class + 3 x Osumi class, this forms 2 x ARG + x 1 x CSG in future

South Korea is building 1 x CSG + 2 x ARG

Australia has 1 x ARG with the 2 x LHD

add to that rest of EU

Chinese got too confident too quickly, with 2 x Carriers and 3 x LHD with not a single CSG or ARG operational they thought they have reached parity with the West, this is the result if inexperience and foolishness, building too many tin cans no cover

Unfortunately for them they will now learn the hard way

You are forgetting history..

USA is going through phase similar to 1920-40s ..

It will not engage in anywar..

Neither does UK or austrila will

In south china sea ..china victory is all but assured

In a full blown war ofcourse china cant do anything it doesnt has legs to hurt USA
It may outnumber USA in littoral ships but not in blue navy ships..it will not do so even if it doubles it blue navy ships

I doubt china is even going to try to do so

 

[tower9]

And Iran has conquered Arab/Semitic countries a countless times: Parts of Arabia, Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, The UAE, Oman, Egypt, Libya, etc. And right now we are controlling 4 Arab countries in the region: Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Palestine and Qatar is also in the Iran-Turkey camp.

Which proves my point again: the sum of zeroes is zero. And it was proven in the Iraq-Iran war. And once again in Syria and Yemen.


A front that has failed to secure even a war-torn country like Yemen after 5 years. They have reached a stalemate with Yemen. That's an unbelievable level of incompetency.

They still have immense wealth and resources

 

[Titanium100]

And Iran has conquered Arab/Semitic countries a countless times: Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Qatar, Bahrain, The UAE, Oman, Egypt, Libya, etc. And right now we are controlling 4 Arab countries in the region: Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Palestine and Qatar is also in the Iran-Turkey camp.

Which proves my point again: the sum of zeroes is zero. And it was proven in the Iraq-Iran war. And once again in Syria and Yemen.


A front that has failed to secure even a war-torn country like Yemen after 5 years. They have reached a stalemate with Yemen. That's an unbelievable level of incompetency.

You don't control anything unless you are called Russia.. Even In Syria Bombarded constantly. Yemen is a proxy war with limited supoort such as airstrikes that is just a small conflict. Just a training ground. The Houthis can't win. Islah and Hadi have them in check locally. It is just a minor stuff that will end.

You have conquered these territories before semitic people were even there lool? The semetic came with Islam outside of the Peninsula.. You are counting previous eras with non-arabs

 

[Arian]

They still have immense wealth and resources

Wealth and resources that will be turned to ashes without the United States. Do you think their oil fields and refineries will survive a full-scale war with Iran? They can't even stop the Yemenis from targeting their critical oil infrastructure.

I have watched Israeli analyses. Israel will never join Arabs against Iran in a war. They know it's suicide for them. Without Israel and the United States, Arabs stand no chance against Iran or Turkey and they know it well.

You don't control anything unless you are called Russia. Yemen is a proxy war with limited supoort such as airstrikes that is not a conflict. Just a training ground.

You have conquered these territories before semitic people were even there lool? The semetic came with Islam outside of the Peninsula

We have been in Lebanon since 1980s when Iran and the Soviet Union were archenemies. Russia hardly has any influence in Iraq. Iran's influence in Iraq comes from religious and sectarian reasons. Russia is against the Saudi-Iran proxy war in Yemen. As for Syria, the IRGC has had huge military camps in Syria since 1980s. Our strategic alliance dates back to Hafiz Assad. Syria was the only Arab country in the Arab League that continually voted against Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war.

What an idiot. Semitic people have been in the Middle East long before Islam from at least 3,000 years ago. Islam is a religion. A religion doesn't change someone's race. LOL

 

[Titanium100]

They still have immense wealth and resources

Arab NATO is 600-700 Million strong with modern weaponry, wealth, endless manpower and with manfacturing capabilites.. They are well drilled enough to even take on much much much larger foes and capable of fighting for decades endless..

Saudi Arabia
Algeria
Morocco
Egypt
Sudan
UAE
Bahrain
Oman
Qatar
Kuwait
Jordan
Tunisia

We have been in Lebanon since 1980s when Iran and the Soviet Union were archenemies. Russia hardly has any influence in Iraq. Iran's influence in Iraq comes from religious and sectarian reasons. Russia is against the Saudi-Iran proxy war in Yemen. As for Syria, the IRGC has had huge military camps in Syria since 1980s. Our strategic alliance dates back to Hafiz Assad. Syria was the only Arab country in the Arab League that continually voted against Iraq during the Iraq-Iran war.

Don't confuse having political ties with a certain country as invasion lmao. Take it easy with that. First of Lebanon as in the gov't has no ties with Iran but Iran has ties with a non state actor entity in Lebanon which is clearly different thing. Even having relations with Syria back in 80s means nothing. You haven't conquered a piece of land since the fall of the sassind empire