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The US policy of using aerial drones to carry out targeted killings presents a major challenge to the system of international law that has endured since the second world war, a United Nations investigator has said.

Christof Heyns, the UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial killings, summary or arbitrary executions, told a conference in Geneva that President Obama's attacks in Pakistan, Yemen and elsewhere, carried out by the CIA, would encourage other states to flout long-established human rights standards.

In his strongest critique so far of drone strikes, Heyns suggested some may even constitute "war crimes". His comments come amid rising international unease over the surge in killings by remotely piloted unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

Addressing the conference, which was organised by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), a second UN rapporteur, Ben Emmerson QC, who monitors counter-terrorism, announced he would be prioritising inquiries into drone strikes.

The London-based barrister said the issue was moving rapidly up the international agenda after China and Russia this week jointly issued a statement at the UN Human Rights Council, backed by other countries, condemning drone attacks.

If the US or any other states responsible for attacks outside recognised war zones did not establish independent investigations into each killing, Emmerson emphasised, then "the UN itself should consider establishing an investigatory body".

Also present was Pakistan's ambassador to the UN in Geneva, Zamir Akram, who called for international legal action to halt the "totally counterproductive attacks" by the US in his country.

Heyns, a South African law professor, told the meeting: "Are we to accept major changes to the international legal system which has been in existence since world war two and survived nuclear threats?"

Some states, he added, "find targeted killings immensely attractive. Others may do so in future … Current targeting practices weaken the rule of law. Killings may be lawful in an armed conflict [such as Afghanistan] but many targeted killings take place far from areas where it's recognised as being an armed conflict."

If it is true, he said, that "there have been secondary drone strikes on rescuers who are helping (the injured) after an initial drone attack, those further attacks are a war crime".

Heyns ridiculed the US suggestion that targeted UAV strikes on al-Qaida or allied groups were a legitimate response to the 9/11 attacks. "It's difficult to see how any killings carried out in 2012 can be justified as in response to [events] in 2001," he said. "Some states seem to want to invent new laws to justify new practices.

"The targeting is often operated by intelligence agencies which fall outside the scope of accountability. The term 'targeted killing' is wrong because it suggests little violence has occurred. The collateral damage may be less than aerial bombardment, but because they eliminate the risk to soldiers they can be used more often."

Heyns told the Guardian later that his future inquiries are likely to include the question of whether other countries, such as the UK, share intelligence with the US that could be used for selecting individuals as targets. A legal case has already been lodged in London over the UK's alleged role in the deaths of British citizens and others as a consequence of US drone strikes in Pakistan.

Emmerson said that protection of the right to life required countries to establish independent inquiries into each drone killing. "That needs to be applied in the context of targeted killings," he said. "It's possible for a state to establish an independent ombudsman to inquire into every attack and there needs to be a report to justify [the killing]."

Alternatively, he said, it was "for the UN itself to consider establishing an investigatory body. Drones attacks by the US raise fundamental questions which are a direct consequence of my mandate… If they don't [investigate] themselves, we will do it for them."

It is time, he added, to end the "conspiracy of silence" over drone attacks and "shine the light of independent investigation" into the process. The attacks, he noted, were not only on those who had been killed but on the system of "international law itself".

The Pakistani ambassador declared that more than a thousand civilians had been killed in his country by US drone strikes. "We find the use of drones to be totally counterproductive in terms of succeeding in the war against terror. It leads to greater levels of terror rather than reducing them," he said.

Claims made by the US about the accuracy of drone strikes were "totally incorrect", he added. Victims who had tried to bring compensation claims through the Pakistani courts had been blocked by US refusals to respond to legal actions.

The US has defended drone attacks as self-defence against al-Qaida and has refused to allow judicial scrutiny of the UAV programme. On Wednesday, the Obama administration issued a fresh rebuff through the US courts to an ACLU request for information about targeting policies. Such details, it insisted, must remain "classified".

Hina Shamsi, director of the ACLU's national security project, said: "Something that is being debated in UN hallways and committee rooms cannot apparently be talked about in US courtrooms, according to the government. Whether the CIA is involved in targeted lethal operation is now classified. It's an absurd fiction."

The ACLU estimates that as many as 4,000 people have been killed in US drone strikes since 2002 in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia. Of those, a significant proportion were civilians. The numbers killed have escalated significantly since Obama became president.

The USA is not a signatory to the International Criminal Court (ICC) or many other international legal forums where legal action might be started. It is, however, part of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) where cases can be initiated by one state against another.

Ian Seiderman, director of the International Commission of Jurists, told the conference that "immense damage was being done to the fabric of international law".

One of the latest UAV developments that concerns human rights groups is the way in which attacks, they allege, have moved towards targeting groups based on perceived patterns of behaviour that look suspicious from aerial surveillance, rather than relying on intelligence about specific al-Qaida activists.

In response to a report by Heyns to the UN Human Rights Council this week, the US put out a statement in Geneva saying there was "unequivocal US commitment to conducting such operations with extraordinary care and in accordance with all applicable law, including the law of war".

It added that there was "continuing commitment to greater transparency and a sincere effort to address some of the important questions that have been raised".

Drone strikes threaten 50 years of international law, says UN rapporteur | World news | guardian.co.uk
 
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War crimes warning on American air strikes
Owen Bowcott
June 23, 2012

GENEVA: The United States' use of drone strikes to carry out targeted killings presents a challenge to the system of international law that has endured since World War II, a United Nations investigator has said.

The UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, Christof Heyns, fears the CIA-run programs in Pakistan, Yemen and elsewhere will encourage other states to flout long-established international human rights law.

In his strongest critique so far of drone strikes, Mr Heyns suggested some attacks may constitute war crimes.

Addressing the conference, which was organised by the American Civil Liberties Union, a second UN rapporteur, Ben Emmerson, QC, who monitors counterterrorism, announced he would be prioritising inquiries into drone strikes. The London barrister said the issue was moving rapidly up the international agenda after China and Russia this week jointly issued a statement at the UN Human Rights Council, backed by other countries, condemning drone attacks.

If the US or any states responsible for attacks outside recognised war zones did not establish independent investigations into each killing, Mr Emmerson emphasised, then ''the UN itself should consider establishing an investigatory body''.

Addressing the same meeting, Pakistan's UN ambassador in Geneva, Zamir Akram, called for international legal action to halt the ''totally counterproductive'' US drone strikes in his country.

Mr Heyns, a South African law professor, said: ''Are we to accept major changes to the international legal system which has been in existence since World War II and survived nuclear threats?''

Some states ''find targeted killings immensely attractive. Others may do so in future,'' he said. ''Killings may be lawful in an armed conflict but many targeted killings take place far from areas where it's recognised as being an armed conflict.''

If ''there have been secondary drone strikes on rescuers who are helping [the injured] after an initial drone attack, those further attacks are a war crime.''

Mr Akram said that US drone strikes had killed more than 1000 civilians in Pakistan. ''We find the use of drones to be totally counterproductive in terms of succeeding in the 'war against terror'. It leads to greater levels of terror rather than reducing them.


''The only rules are through the international legal system. What are the possibilities of pursuing the international legal option in trying to deal with this problem?''

International frustration over Washington's continued policy of using drone strikes surfaced during this week's sessions of the UN's human rights council in Geneva. The US has defended its actions as self-defence against al-Qaeda and has refused to allow judicial scrutiny of the program.

On Thursday, the Obama administration issued a fresh rebuff through the US courts to a request from the civil liberties union for information about targeting policies. Such details, it insisted, remained classified. The director of the union's security project, Hina Shamsi, said: ''Something that is being debated in UN hallways and committee rooms cannot apparently be talked about in US court rooms, according to the government.''

The union's estimates that US drone strikes have killed as many as 4000 people in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia since 2002. Of those, a significant proportion were civilians.

Guardian News & Media



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In other words, as far as Heyns knows, drone strikes do NOT constitute war crimes.

If ''there have been secondary drone strikes on rescuers who are helping [the injured] after an initial drone attack, those further attacks are a war crime.''

Heyns is being diplomatic - the fact that the US has, on many occasions, perpetrated exactly the act highlighted above clearly shows that US drone strikes do meet Heyns definition of war crimes.
 
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Mr Heyns, a South African law professor, said: ''Are we to accept major changes to the international legal system which has been in existence since World War II and survived nuclear threats?''

Does he consider the international legal system to be a static body of work?
 
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Does he consider the international legal system to be a static body of work?
No legal system is 'static', but that said, changes in any legal system are brought about through the system itself - constitutional amendments, new laws, new interpretations of the law by those responsible for interpreting and applying the law.

In this case, without any of the international bodies involved in international law (UN, ICJ etc.) dealing with the 'changed dynamics' through a new set of resolutions, verdicts, treaties etc. in favor of the US position, international law remains 'static'.
 
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No legal system is 'static', but that said, changes in any legal system are brought about through the system itself - constitutional amendments, new laws, new interpretations of the law by those responsible for interpreting and applying the law.

In this case, without any of the international bodies involved in international law (UN, ICJ etc.) dealing with the 'changed dynamics' through a new set of resolutions, verdicts, treaties etc. in favor of the US position, international law remains 'static'.

Very good post.

I would agree that the use of new warfare techniques like drone attacks must be discussed and, where appropriate, included in the system of international rules and governed by authorized bodies, so that they can be applied and overseen appropriately.

Mr. Heynes views are along this line, and I would encourage them.
 
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If ''there have been secondary drone strikes on rescuers who are helping [the injured] after an initial drone attack, those further attacks are a war crime.''

Heyns is being diplomatic - the fact that the US has, on many occasions, perpetrated exactly the act highlighted above clearly shows that US drone strikes do meet Heyns definition of war crimes.
He's not being diplomatic. For one, Heyns knows that if armed Talibs or known terrorists are are among the "rescuers" they become perfectly valid targets.

Heyns is, imo, still intent on making the "power play" I described earlier. If you can possibly see how moving matters from bilateral Pak-U.S. to the U.N.S.C. can help Pakistan, describe it, because I don't. The only Pakistanis who might benefit will be the Pakistani SC rep and the FM - they'll have a chance to mouth off before the cameras. Outlets like Press TV and APP won't cover the inevitable slap-down that Pakistan will experience afterward.
 
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The UN actually waking up to do what it's suppose to do, what do you know?

A statement is all this is. Nothing more will happen.
 
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First and foremost, which court will prosecute this case? Above it states that U.S is not a signatory to the International Criminal Court. China, Russia or Pakistan neither is.

If it is ICJ, then the judges belong to various countries and they tend to intepret the laws in the ways convenient to their country. Even if ICJ finds U.S or other countries guilty, the enforcer of the judgement is Security Council.


So how much of a success Christof Heyns or someone can find?
 
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I dont know if you people are awre of something that transpired in the ICJ hague many years ago....USA lost its case against a small country like Nicaragua, and was forced to pay 12 billion towards the compensation, which thy nevr did...and did not recognise the verdict of ICJ......

This is 1984 case, very interesting read especiaaly for pakistanis:

Nicaragua v. United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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I dont know if you people are awre of something that transpired in the ICJ hague many years ago....USA lost its case against a small country like Nicaragua, and was forced to pay 12 billion towards the compensation, which thy nevr did...and did not recognise the verdict of ICJ......

This is 1984 case, very interesting read especiaaly for pakistanis:

Nicaragua v. United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nicaragua filed a complaint after a law passed by its parliament, and ended up withdrawing it:

The Republic of Nicaragua v. The United States of America was a 1984 case of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in which the ICJ ruled in favor of Nicaragua and against the United States and awarded reparations to Nicaragua. The ICJ held that the U.S. had violated international law by supporting the Contras in their rebellion against the Nicaraguan government and by mining Nicaragua's harbors. The United States refused to participate in the proceedings after the Court rejected its argument that the ICJ lacked jurisdiction to hear the case. The U.S. later blocked enforcement of the judgment by the United Nations Security Council and thereby prevented Nicaragua from obtaining any actual compensation. The Nicaraguan government finally withdrew the complaint from the court in September 1992 (under the later, post-FSLN, government of Violeta Chamorro), following a repeal of the law requiring the country to seek compensation.
 
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Nicaragua filed a complaint after a law passed by its parliament, and ended up withdrawing it:
hmmm.................interesting
But I hope you guys do realise that Pakistan will be left alone to fend off the terrorists, if they were to complain in any supernational organization:confused:
Not to mention possible trade embargoes and sanctions........:coffee:

It is a very dangerous road that Pakistan is treading right now............
 
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hmmm.................interesting
But I hope you guys do realise that Pakistan will be left alone to fend off the terrorists, if they were to complain in any supernational organization:confused:
Not to mention possible trade embargoes and sanctions........:coffee:

It is a very dangerous road that Pakistan is treading right now............

It is only logical that the road to contesting the legality of the drone strikes starts with Pakistan's parliament. Without Pakistan initiating the process, the complaint goes nowhere.
 
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