US Demands Indian Army To Battle The Taliban in Afghanistan

[Tshering22]

baniye k khwaab mey chicherey .
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sabotagingthe peace talk and bring in private contractor only drain money out of us treasury & will openly invite big fishes (Russia &China) to intervene . cant you see the pattern of recent calculated attacks by Talibans it isnt possible without the help of satellite .
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anyways good luck with biding on blackwater ..
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haguman sena sey help kiya mangi trump ney sarey bharti yudhaon ki G***d phat k sunflower ho gaee .

Arey miyan, kaahe itna has raha ho?

Itna hi ladne ka shauk hai to tum log kyon nahi bhej dete Pak fauj ko Afghanistan pe kabze ke liye?

Taliban ko khila khilakar aam Afghani aadmi ki zindagi kharab kar di tum logon ne. Khud to pop songs, achhi gadiyan, movie halls etc rakhte ho Pakistan mein lekin Afghan janata ke liye Sharia rule?

Jitne saal Taliban ne raj kiya, saala aadmi shave nahi kar paata tha, filme nahi dekh sakta, gaana nahi gaa sakta aur yahaan tak ki ladkiyon se baat bhi nahi kar sakta tha.

Un jalladon ke kaaran wahan ke log ek normal zindagi bhi nahi ji sakte the.

Kaise insan log ho tum? Khud ke liye modern duniya aur doosron ke liye Talibani kanoon?

Rahi baat senaon ki, hame bhi pata hai Roohani fauj ne 'non-state actors' ka kyon istemal kiya. 4 baar jiski fat gai wahi ab naujawano ko suicide missions pe bhej kar unki maut ke peechhe bahaduri ki baat kar raha hai.

Batao!

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Dont be cocky guys.
India could easily flip this around and use this as an oppurtunity against Pakistan. As it already has hundreds of counselates churning out terrorists to blow themselves up in Pakistan or some sh!t.

Never take ur enemy too lightly.

 

[Tshering22]

During the British Raj, the Indian soldiers indeed accompanied the British officers in their couple of campaigns into Afganistan. Unfortunately, nobody could come back....

You really have been reading too much of Pakistani analysis and have a one sided view.

Here, read what our troops did there:

Battle of Saragarhi

Third Anglo-Afghan War

World War One: Extraordinary Indian Stories

This is not even the surface of what our troops did.

As someone from a third country, you should also see the other side of the coin.

Today, India has no military interest in Afghanistan.

We always stood for working with the common Afghan people to make their lives better right from 2002.

Can you imagine an entire country wanting to leave their homeland and live without an identity and only conflict and prejudice abroad? That is painful.

The difference here is that Pakistan (essentially the punjabi Pakistani generals) thinks that Afghanistan is its backyard; we see Afghanistan as a friendly country with its own soul, identity and thinking. Constructive development is far more difficult any day compared to destruction.

We may not be very rich contributors of funds, but we are doing our bit in helping a friend stand up on their feet and run their own country.

At least our efforts are trying to improve the lives of common people who are tired of 30 years of useless war.

Black water can't do jack if US shuts all its basis in Afghanistan. The reason US wants to have 2-3 basis in Afghanistan is to provide security to black water.

Last time I checked, Taliban are agreeing to 2-3 bases, however, they are wanting to have equal number of bases in the United States.

Let's see what comes out of this conundrum.

You have an impression that our presence in Afghanistan is because of US presence, while we have been there from much before that including the time when NA was fighting Taliban.

The difference is that under US occupation, India was able to focus on civilian efforts more than just fighting and killing, which is what you guys are programmed to do.

And if, black water tries to operate without US army cover, it will be blown away. Any white, or black Americans will not be safe at all and will be on the mercy of Taliban.. This is how Talibs operate. When they want US out, they in fact want all westerners out.

What Taliban wants is not the matter; what will be an agreement between the two sides is what matters; and it will be a give-and-take at the most.

You really think BW are a bunch of sissies? Get over your little wet dream.

They are battle-hardened troops having combat experience from all over US deployments. Somalia, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Philippines.. you name it.

They know the risks of coming into Afghanistan and they are armed enough to deal with it.

My point is simple; no one would ever leave Afghanistan.

And you think US marines were not doing all that? They were free to do and were operating like an unchecked force in Afghanistan. Remember, US didn't give rights to prisoners of war as it announced that they aren't bound to follow Geneva conventions in this war.. And then they lost.

You really think a few random shootings, which were caught and the accused marines were punished, accounts for unchecked force?

Take Taliban; remove your control over them and then flip them the other way around while removing religion and replacing it with money. Lots of money.

That's a private military contractor.

Unlike US troops which appeared on Talibani radars out in the open, these guys won't be very apparent all the time.

Besides, a lot of water goes under the bridge that we will never know.

I am only quoting what reports are public, which in this case would be hardly 5% of what the reality is.

 

[HariSinghNalwa]

every now and then a thread is generated about how india should join in afghanistan and the troll fest starts ,india won't join has been made clear again and again as it always have been pakistan should take care of its strategic depth with blood and treasure and it won't been changing soon

 

[Jugger]

India should not interfere militarily in Afghanistan, we could assist them maintaining democracy and by helping rebuild the nation, but that’s it.

Taliban are crazy radicals who can switch allegiances to isis in a matter of seconds, like many of them have done in the past.
These radicals cannot be civilised cos they don’t think rationally, they are filled with so much religious hatred that they can never show any kind of affection towards non believers.

Afghanistan is not worth the life of a single Indian soldier.

 

[newb3e]

India should not interfere militarily in Afghanistan, we could assist them maintaining democracy and by helping rebuild the nation, but that’s it.

Taliban are crazy radicals who can switch allegiances to isis in a matter of seconds, like many of them have done in the past.
These radicals cannot be civilised cos they don’t think rationally, they are filled with so much religious hatred that they can never show any kind of affection towards non believers.

Afghanistan is not worth the life of a single Indian soldier.

i smell fear supa dupa powa!

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Arey miyan, kaahe itna has raha ho?

Itna hi ladne ka shauk hai to tum log kyon nahi bhej dete Pak fauj ko Afghanistan pe kabze ke liye?

Taliban ko khila khilakar aam Afghani aadmi ki zindagi kharab kar di tum logon ne. Khud to pop songs, achhi gadiyan, movie halls etc rakhte ho Pakistan mein lekin Afghan janata ke liye Sharia rule?

Jitne saal Taliban ne raj kiya, saala aadmi shave nahi kar paata tha, filme nahi dekh sakta, gaana nahi gaa sakta aur yahaan tak ki ladkiyon se baat bhi nahi kar sakta tha.

Un jalladon ke kaaran wahan ke log ek normal zindagi bhi nahi ji sakte the.

Kaise insan log ho tum? Khud ke liye modern duniya aur doosron ke liye Talibani kanoon?

Rahi baat senaon ki, hame bhi pata hai Roohani fauj ne 'non-state actors' ka kyon istemal kiya. 4 baar jiski fat gai wahi ab naujawano ko suicide missions pe bhej kar unki maut ke peechhe bahaduri ki baat kar raha hai.

Batao!

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jinko marna hota ha hum maar detey hain (aslam achu)
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pahaar utha k urney wali badc****i kerna assaan ha or larney mey tui laal ho jati bharat mata ki .

 

[Tom M]

Unlike your neighbors lolz wrong there and are you really stupid I sure hope not your gov and armed forces talk a lot of BS so stating facts keep your self away from trouble before it finds you

Sorry. But this reply of your didn't make any sense.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

every now and then a thread is generated about how india should join in afghanistan and the troll fest starts ,india won't join has been made clear again and again as it always have been pakistan should take care of its strategic depth with blood and treasure and it won't been changing soon

But IF the indians don't join in militarily in afghanistan, then the americans no longer see it necessary or viable to serve indian interests there. The americans are now also seeing that after 18 years, trillions of dollars spent and using the most deadliest weapons known to mankind bar nukes, the Taliban remain undefeated and are getting stronger:

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/11/0...rol-intl/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/

The americans now realize that a COMPLETELY different approach is needed in achieving their objectives in afghanistan. The current paradigm does NOT work at all.

 

[Tom M]

library library


where is usa now?
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and where is india now?keep dragging library to get some share

There is no official word from US about the withdrawal apart from some unconfirmed media reports and look here people are already having mental orgasms. LOL

U.S and India are intact and always there where we are supposed to be. But tell me where are you ?? Your nation is facing the all time worst period during the last decade. And Mark my words, it ain't over yet.

 

[Novice09]

every now and then a thread is generated about how india should join in afghanistan and the troll fest starts ,india won't join has been made clear again and again as it always have been pakistan should take care of its strategic depth with blood and treasure and it won't been changing soon

Your name is enough for them... people over here are laughing and making fun of India...

Neither we have military interest in Afghanistan... nor we want to control the natural resources... why should we fight other's war...

Dear Pakistanis, please learn something from your current PM... don't fight other's war...

 

[Crystal-Clear]

There is no official word from US about the withdrawal apart from some unconfirmed media reports and look here people are already having mental orgasms. LOL

atleast they accept the defeat . what will be the next phase?
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why india panicked?

 

[PakSword]

Let's see what comes out of this conundrum.

Yeah , let's see.

You have an impression that our presence in Afghanistan is because of US presence, while we have been there from much before that including the time when NA was fighting Taliban.

But in Taliban era, no one was there.. other than Taliban. Taliban's mentality is quite different.. They don't like to be friends with people who worship idols..

The difference is that under US occupation, India was able to focus on civilian efforts more than just fighting and killing, which is what you guys are programmed to do.

You guys would have succeeded had you been not involved in Pakistan.. You tried to showcase to Afghans you little investments, but fought an killed through your black water aka TTP, which wasn't even yours.. So saying that we are programmed to fight and kill, that's correct, but we only kill our foes.. we have nothing to do with civilians..

What Taliban wants is not the matter; what will be an agreement between the two sides is what matters; and it will be a give-and-take at the most.

That's where our role starts.. What they want is what we want... that's why your library and the books in it, and the parliament and the 200 kms road, has no value when it comes to the negotiations.. They don't even want Kabul government to sit in the negotiations..

And let me tell you one thing.. their mentality is not to save themselves.. but to die.. by not committing suicide, only in Jihad.. this is programmed in them.. People who fight to die can't be defeated.. This is what many western analysts have realized over the years of fighting.. Russia realized it in 80s..

You really think BW are a bunch of sissies? Get over your little wet dream.

They are battle-hardened troops having combat experience from all over US deployments. Somalia, Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Philippines.. you name it.

And you think Taliban are not battle hardened? Man, they are more battle hardened than your and our Armies..

And you think black water wasn't there in Afghanistan and Pakistan? They were here, in plenty.. Even I saw a form given to one of my friends for induction.. They were working with TTP and your RAW even. We took time to get rid of them.. but we ensured their cleansing completely.. our latest step is closing NGOs..

You really think a few random shootings, which were caught and the accused marines were punished, accounts for unchecked force?

Take Taliban; remove your control over them and then flip them the other way around while removing religion and replacing it with money. Lots of money.

That's a private military contractor.

Unlike US troops which appeared on Talibani radars out in the open, these guys won't be very apparent all the time.

Besides, a lot of water goes under the bridge that we will never know.

I am only quoting what reports are public, which in this case would be hardly 5% of what the reality is.

One sentence.. Taliban know about black water. what they don't know, we will tell them..

You are making black water a god here.. No they are not.. Ask us.. If the US had any confidence on them, she would have pulled the forced and completely outsourced Afghan operations within three years of invasion..

What black water can do in Afghanistan once regular forces leave (those were also acting unchecked by the way).. occasionally do bomb blasts in public areas, open fire anywhere, try to control Afghan mineral resources..

Taliban aren't like Pakistan which has some legal process involved and it takes us months if not years to punish someone involved.. they have swift justice.. they decide in a Masjid when they catch someone.. within 2-3 days.. and next 2-3 days, kill the accused.. NGOs? forget about them.. Foreign run schools? Forget about them.. TTP and ISIS and their supporters? Forget about them.. Indian RAW and Black water? ready to be killed...

And this is my last post on this topic... we are waiting for the conclusion of the negotiation.. If negotiations are successful, we will be happy, if not, we will be happier.... if you understand what I want to say..

 

[fitpOsitive]

India has so far stayed away from sending its troops to Afghanistan, but has been actively engaged in the reconstruction effort and emerging as one of the biggest donors to the war-torn country. However, US President Donald Trump is not satisfied with the Indian reconstruction role in Afghanistan and has asked India to send its troops to Afghanistan.

CAN INDIAN SOLDIERS REPLACE THE US TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN TO QUELL THE TALIBAN?

In his first Cabinet meeting of the year, the US President also referred to Prime Minister Narendra Modi for funding a library in Afghanistan, wondering who would use it in that country. Trump also suggested Pakistan and Russia send its troops to Afghanistan.

“Why is not Russia there (in Afghanistan, fighting the Taliban)? Why isn’t India there? Why isn’t Pakistan there? Why are we (US) there? We are 6,000 miles away. But I don’t mind. We want to help our people. We want to help other nations,” Trump told reporters in response to a question during the Cabinet meeting.

The US President cited India’s efforts towards peace and development in Afghanistan but alleged that the countries were not doing enough in the war-ravaged country and that they were taking advantage of the United States.

Asserting that the Afghan war costs billions of dollars to the US, Trump said, “I want people to treat us fairly”. He noted that heads of countries have told him that they are involved in the peace process by “just sending some 100 or 200 soldiers”.

The US President referred to his friendly terms with Prime Minister Modi but appeared critical of a library funded by India in Afghanistan.

“I could give you an example where I get along very well with India and Prime Minister Modi. But he is constantly telling me, he built a library in Afghanistan. Library! That’s like five hours of what we spend (in Afghanistan),” Trump told his cabinet colleagues.

“And he (Modi) tells me. He is very smart. We are supposed to say, oh thank you for the library. Don’t know who’s using it (the library) in Afghanistan. But it’s one of those things. I don’t like being taken advantage of,” he said.

Trump drew a comparison between the expenses being borne by the US and other countries in the Afghan peace efforts.

“What other countries have done for the last long period of time is given us some soldiers and then talk about it like it’s the end of the world. And we are subsidizing their military is by billions and billions and billions of dollars, many, many, many times, what those soldiers cost that country,” the US President said.

Responding to a question, he said he wants India to be involved in Afghanistan. Asked if India’s role in Afghanistan was going to be security related, Trump said: “We are going to be doing something that is right. We are talking to the Taliban. We are talking to a lot of different people.”

“But here’s the thing, because you mentioned India. India is there. Russia is there. Russia used to be USSR. Afghanistan made it Russia because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan. Russia. So you tend to look at other countries. Pakistan is there. They should be fighting. But Russia should be fighting,” he said.

“The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was that terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there. The problem is it was a tough fight and literally they (Russia) went bankrupt,” Trump said.

The EurAsian Times is an English Language Digital News-Site, which specializes in reporting News and Editorials on South Asia, Asia Pacific, Middle East, and the Eurasian Region. EurAsian Times has a strong editorial presence in New Delhi, Dubai, Karachi, and Toronto and have expertise in penning editorials on Defence, Politics, Health, Education and International Relations. A team of highly trained journalists, activists, freelancers and artists contribute to the EurAsian Times, apart from the coverage by its staff writers. The views of the writer may not necessarily reflect the view of EurAsian Times



https://eurasiantimes.com/us-demands-indian-army-in-afghanistan-to-battle-the-taliban/

We are waiting.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Dont be cocky guys.
India could easily flip this around and use this as an oppurtunity against Pakistan. As it already has hundreds of counselates churning out terrorists to blow themselves up in Pakistan or some sh!t.

Never take ur enemy too lightly.

We don't take Indian terrorists lightly at all. Payback will be so hard these Indians will cry for help.

Yeah , let's see.



But in Taliban era, no one was there.. other than Taliban. Taliban's mentality is quite different.. They don't like to be friends with people who worship idols..



You guys would have succeeded had you been not involved in Pakistan.. You tried to showcase to Afghans you little investments, but fought an killed through your black water aka TTP, which wasn't even yours.. So saying that we are programmed to fight and kill, that's correct, but we only kill our foes.. we have nothing to do with civilians..



That's where our role starts.. What they want is what we want... that's why your library and the books in it, and the parliament and the 200 kms road, has no value when it comes to the negotiations.. They don't even want Kabul government to sit in the negotiations..

And let me tell you one thing.. their mentality is not to save themselves.. but to die.. by not committing suicide, only in Jihad.. this is programmed in them.. People who fight to die can't be defeated.. This is what many western analysts have realized over the years of fighting.. Russia realized it in 80s..



And you think Taliban are not battle hardened? Man, they are more battle hardened than your and our Armies..

And you think black water wasn't there in Afghanistan and Pakistan? They were here, in plenty.. Even I saw a form given to one of my friends for induction.. They were working with TTP and your RAW even. We took time to get rid of them.. but we ensured their cleansing completely.. our latest step is closing NGOs..



One sentence.. Taliban know about black water. what they don't know, we will tell them..

You are making black water a god here.. No they are not.. Ask us.. If the US had any confidence on them, she would have pulled the forced and completely outsourced Afghan operations within three years of invasion..

What black water can do in Afghanistan once regular forces leave (those were also acting unchecked by the way).. occasionally do bomb blasts in public areas, open fire anywhere, try to control Afghan mineral resources..

Taliban aren't like Pakistan which has some legal process involved and it takes us months if not years to punish someone involved.. they have swift justice.. they decide in a Masjid when they catch someone.. within 2-3 days.. and next 2-3 days, kill the accused.. NGOs? forget about them.. Foreign run schools? Forget about them.. TTP and ISIS and their supporters? Forget about them.. Indian RAW and Black water? ready to be killed...

And this is my last post on this topic... we are waiting for the conclusion of the negotiation.. If negotiations are successful, we will be happy, if not, we will be happier.... if you understand what I want to say..

LOL Pakistan is perfectly happy with any outcome. We are indeed in a luxurious position.

But IF the indians don't join in militarily in afghanistan, then the americans no longer see it necessary or viable to serve indian interests there. The americans are now also seeing that after 18 years, trillions of dollars spent and using the most deadliest weapons known to mankind bar nukes, the Taliban remain undefeated and are getting stronger:

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/11/01/middleeast/afghanistan-report-taliban-gains-control-intl/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/

The americans now realize that a COMPLETELY different approach is needed in achieving their objectives in afghanistan. The current paradigm does NOT work at all.

The Indian approach has failed for the past 17 years. The Trump jibe at India is a clear indication. The Indians have been influencing the US show in Afghanistan. After 17 years the Americans are tired. India cannot influence the Afghan war anymore.