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In my opinion the pros definitely outweigh the cons right now, in regards to US strategic interests.

Name me one pro. I'll name the cons.
1.Over $100 billion in aid. Money we could use here.
2. Our 'special' relationship with the chosenites has put us at odds with over a billion Muslims.
3. Loss of diplomatic prestige. Our hypocrisy and double standards have been laid bare for the world to see. eg sanctioning Iran for nuclear program but ignoring israel's nuclear stockpiles.
4. Trillion of dollars and thousands of lives lost due to israeli instigated wars like Iraq.
5. Loss of liberties and a police state due to this phony war on terror. Laws like the Patriot act and ndaa written by jews like Michael Chertoff and co.
6. Notorious jewish treachery and terrorism eg Lavon affair, uss liberty, the Rosenbergs (first spies executed in America), Jonathan Pollard (who netanyahu wants released) and possibly 9/11.

Just a few off the top of my head. Name me the pros. I'm very interested to know which of the 97% non jewish Americans (who don't work in the Pentagon or in the military industrial complex) are better off because we support israel.
 
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@Nihonjin1051

Thanks for your post. As for me---Palestine is a lost cause now---. It is done---it is finished---and the only dead bodies left are those of the Palestinians---.

9/11 tunred everything against Palestine----the moment the freedom fighters got tagged as terrorists---their cause lost all the steam that they had.

The Palestinians never realized the changing world around them---they had 80% of what they anted---they walked out of camp David----today---they may not even have 30% of what was being offered.

The palestinians made the same choice as the Taliban made after the invasion of Kuwait by the Iraqi armies---they supported Saddam---they did the same in 2003 as well---2nd gulf war---they supported Saddam---.

If you look back at Palestine of 98---99---2000---you will see a picture of Palestine that is progressing---. But after 2003---you see a Palestine on its way to its doom. And when you analyze the situation---you will find that Palestine never ever got out of its mindset of revolutionary freedom fighter image---they did not have any politicians and statesmen---was it because of Arafat---off course---. There is God up in the heavens and then I n palestine Arafat was second to God. A pathetic miserable old man.

Successful upcoming nations know how long to keep their leaders and when to dump them----Palestine was and is a failed state---so it was clueless what to do.

My faily member is a school teacher----according to her----she has not come across a single male Palestinian student with brains---they are thoughtless---with no direction----but their women are totally different---intelligent women---women with courage and brains---but the society that they live in---has no place for their wisdom.

As for my take on the situation---Palestine must be considered a lost cause for the well wishers of palestine---and well wishers need to let Palestinians know about that.

Lastly----the palestnians never understood that the best deals that they wuld have made would be thru Retd Israeli Generals---men who had seen their share of killings---.

Netanyaho as prime minister was the worst enemy of the Palestinians---. Generals who have led armies and who have conquered their enemies---at times have more compassion for the other after retirement----whereas for the combatants---like Netanyahu----who never reached general command---the enemies are just mongrels to be stomped upon.

Does this post help!!!!!!!
 
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@Nihonjin1051

Thanks for your post. As for me---Palestine is a lost cause now---. It is done---it is finished---and the only dead bodies left are those of the Palestinians---.

9/11 tunred everything against Palestine----the moment the freedom fighters got tagged as terrorists---their cause lost all the steam that they had.

The Palestinians never realized the changing world around them---they had 80% of what they anted---they walked out of camp David----today---they may not even have 30% of what was being offered.

The palestinians made the same choice as the Taliban made after the invasion of Kuwait by the Iraqi armies---they supported Saddam---they did the same in 2003 as well---2nd gulf war---they supported Saddam---.

If you look back at Palestine of 98---99---2000---you will see a picture of Palestine that is progressing---. But after 2003---you see a Palestine on its way to its doom. And when you analyze the situation---you will find that Palestine never ever got out of its mindset of revolutionary freedom fighter image---they did not have any politicians and statesmen---was it because of Arafat---off course---. There is God up in the heavens and then I n palestine Arafat was second to God. A pathetic miserable old man.

Successful upcoming nations know how long to keep their leaders and when to dump them----Palestine was and is a failed state---so it was clueless what to do.

My faily member is a school teacher----according to her----she has not come across a single male Palestinian student with brains---they are thoughtless---with no direction----but their women are totally different---intelligent women---women with courage and brains---but the society that they live in---has no place for their wisdom.

As for my take on the situation---Palestine must be considered a lost cause for the well wishers of palestine---and well wishers need to let Palestinians know about that.

Lastly----the palestnians never understood that the best deals that they wuld have made would be thru Retd Israeli Generals---men who had seen their share of killings---.

A civilian Israeli prime minister was the worst enemy of the Palestinians---. Soldiers who have killed their enemies---at times have more compassion for the other after retirement----whereas for the civilians---like Netanyahu----who never served---the enemies are just mongrels to be stomped upon.

Does this post help!!!!!!!

Objective as always, Sir ! Thank You.

**Bow**
 
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So Americans are retards for you, thanks for letting the American people know you ungrateful Jew. :)


In what way? Did you wave your special Jewish wand of credibility? :rofl:
Criticize his point of view, if you want, But not his religion
Judaism ,Jews are an Abrahamic religion & people, just like Muslims & Christians are
& even if its a Hindu , Buddhist etc. every religion should be respected
 
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Criticize his point of view, if you want, But not his religion
Judaism ,Jews are an Abrahamic religion & people, just like Muslims & Christians are
& even if its a Hindu , Buddhist etc. every religion should be respected

Jew is not a religion according to Jews. You insult them when you call it that. It is a race/tribe for them and atheist Jews are still called Jews and classify theirselves as Jews.

@Nihonjin1051

Thanks for your post. As for me---Palestine is a lost cause now---. It is done---it is finished---and the only dead bodies left are those of the Palestinians---.

9/11 tunred everything against Palestine----the moment the freedom fighters got tagged as terrorists---their cause lost all the steam that they had.

The Palestinians never realized the changing world around them---they had 80% of what they anted---they walked out of camp David----today---they may not even have 30% of what was being offered.

The palestinians made the same choice as the Taliban made after the invasion of Kuwait by the Iraqi armies---they supported Saddam---they did the same in 2003 as well---2nd gulf war---they supported Saddam---.

If you look back at Palestine of 98---99---2000---you will see a picture of Palestine that is progressing---. But after 2003---you see a Palestine on its way to its doom. And when you analyze the situation---you will find that Palestine never ever got out of its mindset of revolutionary freedom fighter image---they did not have any politicians and statesmen---was it because of Arafat---off course---. There is God up in the heavens and then I n palestine Arafat was second to God. A pathetic miserable old man.

Successful upcoming nations know how long to keep their leaders and when to dump them----Palestine was and is a failed state---so it was clueless what to do.

My faily member is a school teacher----according to her----she has not come across a single male Palestinian student with brains---they are thoughtless---with no direction----but their women are totally different---intelligent women---women with courage and brains---but the society that they live in---has no place for their wisdom.

As for my take on the situation---Palestine must be considered a lost cause for the well wishers of palestine---and well wishers need to let Palestinians know about that.

Lastly----the palestnians never understood that the best deals that they wuld have made would be thru Retd Israeli Generals---men who had seen their share of killings---.

A civilian Israeli prime minister was the worst enemy of the Palestinians---. Soldiers who have killed their enemies---at times have more compassion for the other after retirement----whereas for the civilians---like Netanyahu----who never served---the enemies are just mongrels to be stomped upon.

Does this post help!!!!!!!

Reported for major trolling.
 
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What is your take on this issue @Syed.Ali.Haider , @MastanKhan , @WebMaster , @American Pakistani ?



Its apparent that we have opposing views regarding this issue. May I request that we just agree to disagree?

Well, I believe Israel's occupation of Palestine is illegitimate and a root cause of several dozen problems in Middle East and/or elsewhere. The United States govt should use it's influence, that it has on the state of Israel, to solve this issue. The United States govt should also discourage Israel's attacks of Palestinian territories and civilians. Same goes for IOK/Indian Occupied Kashmir.
 
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Israel is the 51 state of america
Any war against is war against america
The enemy of israel is an enemy of america

Israel is a British colony and base to serve the western interests

Israel is an american state america is a British colony

Israel founded by British then later became american state
America was a British colony later became the United States
America+Britain+israel=three colonial connected states

The axis of evil
I'm sorry but you miscalculated, there are only 50 states two of which are not part of the 48 contiguous states (Hawaii and Alaska). So unless you want to start a Keyboard War then I suggest you make some edits.

I could care less about Israel, but don't add it to mine.

These welf retards dont represent anything.
Get out of my country SHOO!
 
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Not true, first of all, nobody considers it a holy land in the 21st century. Besides the certain holy sites that are all in same Jerusalem quarter which people of all faiths visit. As Jews, Muslims and Christians all find the cave of Jesus or David's tomb holy to them. Palestinians don't have sectarian divisions. Here is a Christian Palestinian explaining this to you and others:

Palestinian Christian: Western Christians Don't Understand Gaza/Israeli Conflict

But I'm sure you neocon extremists still have hatred for these Christians that you claim to care about.

Hundreds of thousands of Christians take religious tours to their holy lands every year. I doubt that would have been possible if there was no Jewish Israel - in fact I doubt there would be any Christian place to visit there if there was no Israel.

And, stop making any sort of aspersions on someone when you do not know the person you are addressing.
 
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Hundreds of thousands of Christians take religious tours to their holy lands every year. I doubt that would have been possible if there was no Jewish Israel - in fact I doubt there would be any Christian place to visit there if there was no Israel.

And, stop making any sort of aspersions on someone when you do not know the person you are addressing.

Stop insinuating something that is false. Secondly, no one brought religion into this. If Palestinians had a state it would be a Palestinian national state. Religion is irrelevant here. Arab Christians/Muslims have very good ties. Yes you are a neocon since you don't know any history of region and keep throwing hyperbole at us.

You either educate yourself.
 
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@Nihonjin1051


A civilian Israeli prime minister was the worst enemy of the Palestinians---. Soldiers who have killed their enemies---at times have more compassion for the other after retirement----whereas for the civilians---like Netanyahu----who never served---the enemies are just mongrels to be stomped upon.

Does this post help!!!!!!!
Netanyahu did serve in IDF as a combatant. It is very unlikely for Israel to get a PM who did not serve in IDF given their draft rules. I just checked that even Leiberman and Livni served. Only Lapid seems to have escaped draft and he is a moderate. Sorry to pis on your stereotypes, just saying.

Reported.
Enjoy.
That single line had a lot of meaning that a paragraph cannot convey.
 
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@Nihonjin1051

Thanks for your post. As for me---Palestine is a lost cause now---. It is done---it is finished---and the only dead bodies left are those of the Palestinians---.

9/11 tunred everything against Palestine----the moment the freedom fighters got tagged as terrorists---their cause lost all the steam that they had.

The Palestinians never realized the changing world around them---they had 80% of what they anted---they walked out of camp David----today---they may not even have 30% of what was being offered.

The palestinians made the same choice as the Taliban made after the invasion of Kuwait by the Iraqi armies---they supported Saddam---they did the same in 2003 as well---2nd gulf war---they supported Saddam---.

If you look back at Palestine of 98---99---2000---you will see a picture of Palestine that is progressing---. But after 2003---you see a Palestine on its way to its doom. And when you analyze the situation---you will find that Palestine never ever got out of its mindset of revolutionary freedom fighter image---they did not have any politicians and statesmen---was it because of Arafat---off course---. There is God up in the heavens and then I n palestine Arafat was second to God. A pathetic miserable old man.

Successful upcoming nations know how long to keep their leaders and when to dump them----Palestine was and is a failed state---so it was clueless what to do.

My faily member is a school teacher----according to her----she has not come across a single male Palestinian student with brains---they are thoughtless---with no direction----but their women are totally different---intelligent women---women with courage and brains---but the society that they live in---has no place for their wisdom.

As for my take on the situation---Palestine must be considered a lost cause for the well wishers of palestine---and well wishers need to let Palestinians know about that.

Lastly----the palestnians never understood that the best deals that they wuld have made would be thru Retd Israeli Generals---men who had seen their share of killings---.

A civilian Israeli prime minister was the worst enemy of the Palestinians---. Soldiers who have killed their enemies---at times have more compassion for the other after retirement----whereas for the civilians---like Netanyahu----who never served---the enemies are just mongrels to be stomped upon.

Does this post help!!!!!!!
What do you mean it’s a lost cause?

Why should Palestinians be blamed for something they had no part in? And Palestinians have been called terrorist way before 9-11.

Why should they accept anything less then what’s rightly theirs?

I don’t understand what you mean by this.

Ok I read it twice I still don’t understand what you mean.

This is one of the most incoherent take I have had the misfortune to read on the Palestinian/Israel situation. It actually made me appreciate Solomons posts lol and look it got 6 likes. :hitwall: :lol:
 
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What do you mean it’s a lost cause?

Why should Palestinians be blamed for something they had no part in? And Palestinians have been called terrorist way before 9-11.

Why should they accept anything less then what’s rightly theirs?

I don’t understand what you mean by this.

Ok I read it twice I still don’t understand what you mean.

This is one of the most incoherent take I have had the misfortune to read on the Palestinian/Israel situation. It actually made me appreciate Solomons posts lol and look it got 6 likes. :hitwall: :lol:

I agree. :)

When I saw the 6 likes I knew it was 5 Indians and one Japanese. :lol:
 
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What do you mean it’s a lost cause?

Why should Palestinians be blamed for something they had no part in? And Palestinians have been called terrorist way before 9-11.

Why should they accept anything less then what’s rightly theirs?

I don’t understand what you mean by this.

Ok I read it twice I still don’t understand what you mean.

This is one of the most incoherent take I have had the misfortune to read on the Palestinian/Israel situation. It actually made me appreciate Solomons posts lol and look it got 6 likes. :hitwall: :lol:

Hi,

Palestine would have gained everything if they would have gone on the Gandhi route against Israel----ie non violence---no retaliation---no weapons---no war---.

" Fight the enemy with the weapons that hurt it the most ". MK
 
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