US brushes aside assumptions linking Pakistan to Kashmir violence

[hunter_hunted]

Hahahaha white skin endians must be pissing in their panties.

Ache din ane wale han

 

[ranjeet]

People are voting not for BJP but to keep it out of valley which might happen if they boycotted the polls. Ask @SarthakGanguly for further details.

Don't worry we'll rig the result and let Kashmir have as much fun with the fake mandate as Pakistan is having.

 

[Areesh]

Don't worry we'll rig the result and let Kashmir have as much fun with the fake mandate as Pakistan is having.

Even better for us.

 

[Hulk]

The primary relevance of the US position on the attacks, in the India-Pakistan context, is that it points to a continued failure of the Indian diplomatic offensive to "isolate Pakistan internationally".

Look, everyone knows at this point that India does not have (and will not have for another generation at least, assuming a continuation of the current economic growth in both States) the kind of conventional military superiority over Pakistan that would allow the Indian government to "act strong" in front of the electorate by conducting punitive military strikes against Pakistan without suffering an equally punitive Pakistani military retaliation. With that kind of military status-quo, the Indian government, and especially the new Hindu Nationalist Modi government, will need to display some kind of tangible "international diplomatic punishment of Pakistan" to appease its hawkish base and differentiate itself from the preceding Congress led government on the issue of India-Pakistan relations.

Of course this is but the start of the Modi government, and certain events (on the terrorism front especially) can still change the current course of positive engagement between Pakistan and the US, Russia, EU and China (in the latter case, an inability to fulfil the promise of billions in investment in various sectors in Pakistan), but the current trajectory leaves few options for the Modi government outside of overt or covert military action against Pakistan, which in turn will invite an escalatory covert and overt military response from Pakistan, which in turn will hamstring the Modi government's ability to deliver on the economic front domestically. Domestic economic growth is something Modi absolutely has to deliver on if he wants to retain the BJP's electoral primacy for more than one election cycle, so he will have to balance the demands for military escalation from hawks within the BJP with the demands to deliver on the economic front. On the Pakistani side, neutralizing the Indian ability to leverage terrorist groups within Pakistan (TTP, LeJ, BLA, BRA etc.) will demand continued focus on the fight against the TTP in the North West and an elevation of the overt and covert ops against the cells in the 'settled areas'.

Agreed, India does not have the strength to completely isolate Pakistan since both USA and China has interest in Pakistan currently. However, this has nothing to do with Pakistan's growth. It is only because of its geographic location.
If India cannot do much, Pakistan cannot even do one fourth of what India can achieve. Understand this that in this world only few countries are very powerful USA for sure and China and Russia at times.

So two people having a wresting match Person A cannot completely dominate B but then B cannot do much to A either. That leads to status quo, we are fine with it. In a way it is victory for us because we want exactly that.

 

[SamantK]

I can just imagine face of that Indian journalist after that response.

You guys are good jokers. Keep it up.

Everyone know who goes for 7 days to US and stays for equal no. of days more. The country in which FP is handled by army.

Lol, the joke is on you!

 

[Areesh]

Everyone know who goes for 7 days to US and stays for equal no. of days more. The country in which FP is handled by army.

Funny instead of Pakistanis an Indian is concerned about the number of days our chief stays in USA.

Now that's some brilliant joke from the jokers.

 

[Prometheus]

Funny instead of Pakistanis an Indian is concerned about the number of days our chief stays in USA.

Now that's some brilliant joke from the jokers.

real power lies with army in pakistan .............politicians are just rubber stamp................whats wrong if army cheif of pakistan stayed 7 days in usa.................

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I agree that Modi is taking a harsher course and it will be difficult for Pakistan to get a grip on these groups because of it. I wonder what's behind this policy though?.

Occam's Razor - to paraphrase, "the simplest explanation might be the correct one".

Modi may be an excellent administrator but I didn't realize how much of a religious zealot he was until I read his comments about "ancient Hindus, cosmic weapons, plastic surgery etc". He has also chosen to surround himself with hawks who may simply not have the ability to take a long term view of the situation and take into account the complex dynamics Pakistan has to deal with.

Modi as CM of Gujarat could be as much of a religious zealot as he wanted and still be an excellent Chief Minister - as PM he has to figure out how to balance his "Hindu nationalism" and the demands from the religious zealots in his base with the need to understand the complexities of the India-Pakistan relationship and somehow, at the very least, keep that relationship on the relatively peaceful level that it has been at for the past decade.

 

[Areesh]

real power lies with army in pakistan .............politicians are just rubber stamp................whats wrong if army cheif of pakistan stayed 7 days in usa.................

We don't have issues with that. And if that helps to achieve our objectives then it is all good for us.

 

[Prometheus]

We don't have issues with that. And if that helps to achieve our objectives then it is all good for us.

short term goals i must say ...........Army chief stayed for 7 days , i guess, disscusing benefits he wants in return of high value target of AQ recently killed in Pakistan by army

 

[SamantK]

Funny instead of Pakistanis an Indian is concerned about the number of days our chief stays in USA.

Now that's some brilliant joke from the jokers.

Not concerned, it's a joke on Pakistan.

 

[Hulk]

Right after the Pentagon report the senior US military commander on the ground issued a statement that the Pakistani military operation had in fact disrupted the Haqqani network - mixed messages, or perhaps just an indication that the Pentagon report was outdated, relying largely on information prior to the Pakistani military offensive in NW.

Or maybe they just want to keep Pakistan in good humor and do not show what they really think? It could be because they feel that it helps them get their job done in Pakistan. Talk sweet and get job done.

 

[SamantK]

The circle cheering has started. What is that Pakistan thinks India should do? Keep mum no matter what happens due to the direct or indirect infrastructure present in Pakistan for terrorists?

India should always understand the situation in Pakistan but Pakistan has the birth right to shit on everything which effects India.. Some shit that is.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Or maybe they just want to keep Pakistan in good humor and do not show what they really think? It could be because they feel that it helps them get their job done in Pakistan. Talk sweet and get job done.

I don't think so. Even critics of the Pakistani military (like C Fair, Carlotta Gall etc.) end up essentially supporting the claim that the Haqqani network has been "disrupted" when they claim that "the Haqqanis and other Afghan focused groups fled into Afghanistan before the military offensive in NW". Whether these Afghan focus groups fled into Afghanistan or were killed matters little in the overall scheme of things from the Pakistani perspective in that they are at least no longer operating freely from Pakistani soil.

In addition, relocation is not that simple for these groups - they had an entire terrorism infrastructure built up that they lost and that will have a very severe impact on them in the short to medium term, and probably in the long term if the Afghans and US do not allow them to settle in Afghanistan and the Pakistanis don't allow them to resettle in FATA.

 

[Areesh]

Not concerned, it's a joke on Pakistan.

Doesn't look to be a joke but a clever strategy which fools can't understand.

short term goals i must say ...........Army chief stayed for 7 days , i guess, disscusing benefits he wants in return of high value target of AQ recently killed in Pakistan by army

Nope. Things are changing fast in this region. You would see result of this visit soon.