US backs India, says Pak must eliminate terror

[DelhiDareDevil]

no special statment ??? did she manage to sell aircraft to bharat?

Nope but heard Pakistan may buy more F-16 jets from USA for making this lovely comment.

 

[Spring Onion]

Don't you want to eliminate the taliban in your country?

US has joined hands with Taliban recently. excluded them from UN Blacklist so why we should be eliminating those Taliban whom US has invited for govt in Afghanistan

 

[Spring Onion]

Nope but heard Pakistan may buy more F-16 jets from USA for making this lovely comment.

so as usual bharatis are happy with this clapping from US ?

 

[Bhairava]

Yup .. we quit gas pipeline project

And got the much more beneficial nuclear deal.

You did not get either.

 

[AMCA]

so as usual bharatis are happy with this clapping from US ?

Well of course we cannot be as rugged as some one who get there daily bread with the US tax payers money yet cannot show respect to the bread winners of there country.

 

[DkBose]

so as usual bharatis are happy with this clapping from US ?

if it gives space in afghanistan...then we are happy

 

[xLancex]

US has joined hands with Taliban recently. excluded them from UN Blacklist so why we should be eliminating those Taliban whom US has invited for govt in Afghanistan

Jana Jana Jana where do you get your conspiracy theories from

Because the government and taliban have held talks, that means they're joining hands? Hmm I wonder why you should eliminate the taliban... maybe because they're killing your own people?

 

[darkinsky]

no........they still hope to preserve few of them to use them later on.

yes we intend to use them to exterminate the indian germs we got in afghanistan during the conflict

 

[Nelson]

yes we intend to use them to exterminate the indian germs we got in afghanistan during the conflict

You have been using them like forever, but germs have gone the other way around.

 

[Guest01]

US has joined hands with Taliban recently. excluded them from UN Blacklist so why we should be eliminating those Taliban whom US has invited for govt in Afghanistan

Chalo let this be the reason Pakistan needed to act. At least eliminate them now!! I am sure that US will still willingly and immediately release the 800 Million too even though you think that you are eliminating people with whom they have joined hands!

 

[Hulk]

Such lip service is useless unless something concrete like sanctions, for example, comes off it.

They have helped us a lot in setting up counter terrorism investigation. It is not mere lip service.

 

[Spring Onion]

Ravi Shankar: Hillary Clinton should be fed noodle soup in New Delhi

Monday, 18 July 2011
By Ravi Shankar

Empires do not have friends. They only have allies.

America is the only empire left after the Soviet Union collapsed. China is a perennial empire in waiting: perhaps it heeds history’s tutorials that it is better to be an imperial work in progress, the promise of menace and power a deterrent not only to the rest of the world but also to itself. Revolution may devour its children, but empires get devoured by theirs.

The Middle East is the contemporary buffet table where US foreign policy and business interests have become a moveable feast, put together by both the chefs and the waiters. India, another wannabe empire might want to learn from America’s unlearnt lessons.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is doing the rounds in New Delhi, pushing the security interests of the US empire after Obama’s business pitch last year flopped. Neither Obama nor Hillary are particularly endearing characters, they don’t have George Bush’s goofy charm nor Bill Clinton’s powerful charisma. Bush saw the world in terms of Texan simplicity and oil; it worked for the Indian government with whom he shared a rapport that went beyond mere diplomacy. Hillary Clinton is in New Delhi basically as a ploy to worry Pakistan.
It won’t work.

Pakistan is too worried about its own collapsing future to bother about America’s. The friendship they shared once was only united by a mutual dislike of India and America’s fear of the Soviets.

India and America share a distrust that goes back decades, to the time of Jawaharlal Nehru and John Fitzgerald Kennedy. When he visited Washington in 1961, the 72-year-old Nehru and the 42-year-old Kennedy almost became friends. But Nehru was unwilling to take a public stance on issues the US wanted it to: nuclear testing, Berlin, Laos; the issues of its times.

India’s friendship with the Soviet Union was far more important than the rosebud Jackie gave the old premier and the visits to her pet cemetery. China was a bigger threat than Pakistan, something that may have been proved right when India lost the war in 1962 to China.

Nehru insisted on a moratorium on nuclear testing by the US though he was personally mortified by Russia which was doing the same. Russia was a friend and the America only a possible ally.

Then America’s enemy was Khruschev and the Communism he stood for, a man who seems a rather gruff gentleman in a bad suit in retrospect compared to Osama and al Zawahiri. The Soviet empire collapsed a few decades after Nehru died, taking away the raison d’être for the Americans to continue their proxy war in Afghanistan, being fought with the ISI’s help: little did they anticipate 9/11 when Rambo was parachuting into the Hindu Khush. Now Rambo is going home, the debris of his legacy strewn around the mountain slopes where the Taliban now ambush their old friends and creators.
Allies hate empires.

Is it any wonder that Pakistan has turned against the US now? Or that many of America’s allies in the Middle East are wary of it? Hosni Mubarak’s abandonment by its old ally that had suddenly woken up to Egypt’s prisons must certainly be weighing on the minds of many of America’s allies. America doesn’t care how many Pakistanis or Afghans die, it doesn’t care how many Iraqis perish. To paraphrase FDR, America is an s.o.b but its own s.o.b.

So, Hillary will achieve little in the balancing game in the Subcontinent. India senses that the US is a declining empire as it dreams of becoming one itself. Through the centuries, the Indian generic memory of being part of many empires -- from Mughal to British -- perhaps drives this dream. Imitation is also the best form of flattering oneself.

India has much to learn from China. China will always be an empire of the imagination, far more terrifying than any that has ever ruled the earth. The Treasure Fleet of its famous eunuch admiral Cheng Ho in the 15th century that sailed to India with dreams of conquest was probably the last time it wanted to be an empire in the Roman or Ottoman sense. However, China’s introspective understanding that strength lies within is its imperial qui.

It’s the right time for Hillary to be fed some noodle soup in New Delhi.

(Ravi Shankar is Executive Editor of New Indian Express in Delhi. He can be reached at: ravi@newindianexpress.com)

 

[newdelhinsa]

Poor America! Everyone has its own complaints and wish lists; be it is India or Pakistan. lol

 

[Vibs]

@Jana: Although I don't quite agree with a lot of your posts, that article was a good read.

 

[Patrician]

They have helped us a lot in setting up counter terrorism investigation. It is not mere lip service.

They have helped, yes.

Nobody can deny that.

The fact remains, though, that when it came to Pakistan, they could certainly 'do more'.