US B-52 bombers fly close to Guangdong coast

[Yingluck]

2 bombers is just training. Not a full scale assault and not at war. That I guarantee. 2 bombers, 20 missiles. Sure thats nothing. 50 bombers, 1,000 missiles, well then you got something to worry about.



Well then Chinese bombers are committing suicide then being big and slow targets?

They are no where close to USA. But you guys are close to China.

 

[Oldman1]

They are no where close to USA. But you guys are close to China.

So what? You are close to bases all around with allies of the U.S. Why else would you have long range bombers for? Might as well considered that suicide going anywhere near them.

 

[Yingluck]

So what? You are close to bases all around with allies of the U.S. Why else would you have long range bombers for? Might as well considered that suicide going anywhere near them.

Long range bomber is there to threaten small or medium size countries, that has no air defence to take it down.

The right way to use it against super power is to fly them far enough, and fire a long range air to surface missile. Flying close to Guangzhou make no sense operationally -- other than a show of foolish jingoism.

 

[Oldman1]

Long range bomber is there to threaten small or medium size countries, that has no air defence to take it down.

The right way to use it against super power is to fly them far enough, and fire a long range air to surface missile. Flying close to Guangzhou make no sense operationally -- other than a show of foolish jingoism.

Sure its to send a message. No different than the Russians. You think they send their bombers like that in wartime?

 

[Yingluck]

Sure its to send a message. No different than the Russians. You think they send their bombers like that in wartime?

That is why you always see on TV that some China or Russia plane fly within a few meters of USA bomber or surveillance planes.

And in case for surveillance like AWACS, the further away from China the better. Your EW signature get expose and recorded if you use it too much.

 

[Oldman1]

That is why you always see on TV that some China or Russia plane fly within a few meters of USA bomber or surveillance planes.

And in case for surveillance like EWACS, the further away from China the better. Your EW signature get expose and recorded if you use it too much.

Well I'm sure China be glad to invite them instead of trying to scare them away for more signal intelligence purposes.

 

[Yingluck]

Well I'm sure China be glad to invite them instead of trying to scare them away for more signal intelligence purposes.

I guess it is both.

There are many ways to piss USA off in such scenario. China could send a agile fighter to rub on the bomber, and bomber may crash. Then the fighter pilot can eject.

 

[Oldman1]

I guess it is both.

There are many ways to piss USA off in such scenario. China could send a agile fighter to rub on the bomber, and bomber may crash. Then the fighter pilot can eject.

The last time that pilot did that, he died while trying to eject.

 

[Yingluck]

The last time that pilot did that, he died while trying to eject.

But China has also cut up the aircraft. Expert went in take a look and take pictures.

That is still worth it.

 

[Oldman1]

But China has also cut up the aircraft. Expert went in take a look and take pictures.

That is still worth it.

That pilot disagrees since he died trying to eject. He wanted to live.

 

[Yingluck]

That pilot disagrees since he died trying to eject. He wanted to live.

The life of individual is nothing, merely expendable foot soldiers serving the ends of their nation.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The last time that pilot did that, he died while trying to eject.

His death allow China to obtain a valuable information about your spy plane which allow us to develop our own, we're very grateful to him. And Orion had to be ship back to US like this.

 

[Oldman1]

The life of individual is nothing, merely expendable foot soldiers serving the ends of their nation.

Oh yeah? Well why don't they do it again since that time? No volunteers?

His death allow China to obtain a valuable information about your spy plane which allow us to develop our own, we're very grateful to him. And Orion had to be ship back to US like this.

Should send in more pilots to gain more valuable knowledge on newer planes. Like the P-8 antisubmarine. This pilot looks like he wants to be next.

 

[Yingluck]

Oh yeah? Well why don't they do it again since that time? No volunteers?

Probably now China may not need to ramp fighter anymore.

In recent years, USA combat platform from warship to aircraft, or even personnels have filed complains that they are under attacked by EW system or high energy weapons.

 

[S10]

Serbian air defense didn't held out for more than a month. Hardly defended for 78 straight days of bombing. Don't underestimate what B-52 bombers can do with 20 cruise missiles alone. The U.S. has always been planning to bomb the Soviet Union since the days of the Cold War. You saw what happened to Iraq considered back then the most advanced air defense systems in the world. Sure China is different but that don't mean we can't defeat it.

Serbs did not have modern IADS and did not have the capability to strike back at NATO. Iraqis were also poorly equipped, poorly led and poorly trained in comparison to Western forces in both Gulf Wars. On the contrary, China has been preparing to take on US for the past 20 years, and is capable of taking out American ships and bases in the Western Pacific. It's a different ballgame when the other side shoots back. Let's see how long that American arrogance holds up against changing reality.