US Accuses China of 'Creating a Great Wall of Sand' in South China Sea

[LacViet]

How is it in the interest of the US to go to war with a nuclear power like China, plus one that bank roles its spending? Its in the US interest for other countries to go to war with China.

OK, I past here for you. Pls to read carefully in following..

President Obama's Asia strategy represents a significant shift in American foreign policy from a Middle Eastern/European focus to an East/South Asian one. Previously, the Clinton and Bush administrations deployed significant naval and air weapons systems to Guam and Japan, cooperated with Singapore by constructing an aircraft carrier facility at Changi Naval base, and strengthened U.S. bilateral defense cooperation with Japan and the Philippines. "

Additional focus was placed on the region with the Obama administration's 2012 "Pivot to East Asia" regional strategy, whose key areas of actions are: "strengthening bilateral security alliances; deepening our working relationships with emerging powers, including with China; engaging with regional multilateral institutions; expanding trade and investment; forging a broad-based military presence; and advancing democracy and human rights." A report by the Brookings Institute writes that reactions to the pivot strategy was mixed, with, "different Asian states responded to American rebalancing in different ways."

There has been strong perception from China that all of these are part of US' counter China policy. Proponents of this theory claim that the United States needs a weak, divided China to continue its hegemony in Asia. This is accomplished, the theory claims, by the United States establishing military, economic, and diplomatic ties with countries adjacent to China's borders.

 

[AndrewJin]

Yes in territory, for Culture it is usually Tang Dynasty that is considered.

To be frank, Han is not even a proper ethnicity. It was the citizenship created by the Han empire, by abolishing all previous distinctions. To be frank, China should do it today again, and make everyone simply to be Chinese.

No Han, No Manchu, No Mongol, No Tibetan. Only Chinese. Zhongguoren.

PS- The categorisation of Han is not clear anyways. China has been an incredible melting pot of many traditions and cultures all amalgating to create a whole new. Something like the United States of today.

Agree. Nationality is more of a western term, it's a identity for a certain civilisation which matters. In China, the only time you hear of Han perhaps is on one's ID card.

 

[soundwave1987]

What you said is the calculation of Chinese business man. China's dream is base on Illusion of Chinese Han people. That China is middle Kingdom of this world. This kingdom is rised and going to fell. It is the history.

I copy for you study in following:

President Obama's Asia strategy represents a significant shift in American foreign policy from a Middle Eastern/European focus to an East/South Asian one. Previously, the Clinton and Bush administrations deployed significant naval and air weapons systems to Guam and Japan, cooperated with Singapore by constructing an aircraft carrier facility at Changi Naval base, and strengthened U.S. bilateral defense cooperation with Japan and the Philippines. "

Additional focus was placed on the region with the Obama administration's 2012 "Pivot to East Asia" regional strategy, whose key areas of actions are: "strengthening bilateral security alliances; deepening our working relationships with emerging powers, including with China; engaging with regional multilateral institutions; expanding trade and investment; forging a broad-based military presence; and advancing democracy and human rights." A report by the Brookings Institute writes that reactions to the pivot strategy was mixed, with, "different Asian states responded to American rebalancing in different ways."

There has been strong perception from China that all of these are part of US' counter China policy. Proponents of this theory claim that the United States needs a weak, divided China to continue its hegemony in Asia. This is accomplished, the theory claims, by the United States establishing military, economic, and diplomatic ties with countries adjacent to China's borders.



read again my post bro, I said that USA fight against China for USA interests.

ah，you misunderstood me sir. I dont believe in “China is the middle kingdom” kind of thing，in fact very few modern chinese believe in that kind of arrogant ego delusion. From our point of view we are just taking back what is rightfully ours，to reclaim the legacy of our forefathers. You may argue with that，that's fine，we both have right to claim our ideas. As I have contimuously try to explain that US can do what ever they want，they can “back to Asia”，they can collaborate with any one，not our business. The only thing we care is how we handle the consequences of their deeds and then make our move. For now their deed didnt work for us and that's enough. As for future I'm sure they'll keep trying and so will us. Who will laugh till the last minute？Will they stop us？I say no and you say yes，so it's meaningless，and perhaps the game will endure into eternity. What really matters is we are making progress to reach out our final goal，whether US or any other would stop us or not we are keeping on trying.
To sum it up，it's that we dont care what others think or do and just mind our own business.

I know Tujia people.

Dai Bingguo, one of the finest Chinese diplomats ever, is also a Tujia.
Dai Bingguo - Wikiwand
Did you know?

Thanks for your information，I don't know about that. In fact in real life no one cares much about ethnic group

 

[LacViet]

ah，you misunderstood me sir. I dont believe in “China is the middle kingdom” kind of thing，in fact very few modern chinese believe in that kind of arrogant ego delusion. From our point of view we are just taking back what is rightfully ours，to reclaim the legacy of our forefathers. You may argue with that，that's fine，we both have right to claim our ideas. As I have contimuously try to explain that US can do what ever they want，they can “back to Asia”，they can collaborate with any one，not our business. The only thing we care is how we handle the consequences of their deeds and then make our move. For now their deed didnt work for us and that's enough. As for future I'm sure they'll keep trying and so will us. Who will laugh till the last minute？Will they stop us？I say no and you say yes，so it's meaningless，and perhaps the game will endure into eternity. What really matters is we are making progress to reach out our final goal，whether US or any other would stop us or not we are keeping on trying.
To sum it up，it's that we dont care what others think or do and just mind our own business.


Thanks for your information，I don't know about that. In fact in real life no one cares much about ethnic group

You said that you don't care what others think or do and just mind our own business. It mean that we talk to whom he is like dumb.

very sad.

 

[soundwave1987]

You said that you don't care what others think or do and just mind our own business. It mean that we talk to whom he is like dumb.

very sad.

no sir we are both common people with fellings，so we cant ignore other people，that's why you and I can have this conversation despite of our different opinions. But a nation is not a human although it is formed by human，it act more like a machine. You can see very few diplomatic and territory disputes are solved by merely negotiations. In fact not only China act that way，so does Vietnam and other countries. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong.

 

[Bussard Ramjet]

You said that you don't care what others think or do and just mind our own business. It mean that we talk to whom he is like dumb.

very sad.

Why do you people fight and confront with China instead of accomodating and negotiating?

You have such a historic bond, that you can even be brothers. See China claims the whole of South China sea islands, and their EEZ. Right now, they have everything in control, except for Spratly Islands ( they have some reefs there as well, but by large those are very less compared to Vietnam and Philippines occupations)

Why not negotiate, that you both people will share the whole south china sea, say 70-30. That is 70 for China and 30 for Vietnam. You can actually be kind of a regional player then, in a pseudo alliance with China. 70% of the land, EEZ and minerals and resources will be owned by China, the rest by you.

What say?

I think China will agree, because South China sea is an extremely important area for them. In the surrounding nations, Vietnam is the only one totally devoid of any US military support. Philippines is an ally, so is Singapore. They can obviously share 30% of the sea, which is very vast. And anyways, Whatever oil you take out, will be taken out using Chinese companies only.

 

[Hasbara Buster]

Parle vous la lange france ?

Non, je ne parlé pas Francais.. was that correct French? 25 years ago I had French at school for 3 years from 1990 to 1992 but I've forgotten most of it.. I hate France by the way

 

[AndrewJin]

Non, je ne parlé pas Francais.. was that correct French? 25 years ago I had French at school for 3 years from 1990 to 1992 but I've forgotten most of it.. I hate France by the way

You two both have grammar mistakes.
I've learned for only a semester, my college was founded by Frenchmen in Shanghai.

 

[cirr]

It appears that China has started on Phase II of Yongshujiao（Fiery Cross Reef）land reclamation：

Yongshujiao of yesteryear

Yongshudao Phase I

Yongshudao Phase II

In a few years，what is now known as Yongshujiao will be reborn as Yongshushi（Yongshu City），the 1st county-level city under the prefecture-level Sansha City，the government of which is located on the 2.13-square km Yongxing Island , the largest island in the Xisha Islands（Paracels）。Considering the location and size of finished Yongshu City，the State Council might even decide to make it the seat of government for Sansha City。

 

[ahojunk]

@cirr
You are always the first one with the news.

Yongshudao Phase II

In a few years，what is now known as Yongshujiao will be reborn as Yongshushi（Yongshu City），the 1st county-level city under the prefecture-level Sansha City，the government of which is located on the 2.13-square km Yongxing Island , the largest island in the Xisha Islands（Paracels）。Considering the location and size of finished Yongshu City，the State Council might even decide to make it the seat of government for Sansha City。

But I can't see any reclamation here. Has China started yet?

 

[TaiShang]

Seaplane Could Advance Chinese SCS Claims
March 28, 2015

TAIPEI — A new Chinese-built seaplane could help seal Beijing's control over its claims in the South China Sea (SCS), say military specialists on China.

The Jiaolong (Water Dragon) AG600, under construction by China Aviation Industry General Aircraft (CAIGA), will be China's largest operational seaplane. CAIGA did not respond to inquiries after the company's announcement on March 17 that it had completed the front fuselage assembly for the prototype.

According to brochures obtained at the 2014 Airshow China in Zhuhai, the aircraft is powered by four turboprop WJ-6 engines and has a range of 5,500 kilometers, which would provide substantial movement within the SCS. In the Spratly Islands, China is currently constructing artificial islands on Hughes Reef, Johnson South Reef and Gaven Reef.

Despite the lack of direct mainland access to Beijing's strategic claims in the SCS, the aircraft are seen as a boon to solidifying control of the area by China's military and maritime enforcement agencies for island hopping within the crowded clusters of the 750 reefs, islets, atolls and islands in the Spratly Islands archipelago.

"Amphibious planes like the AG600 would be perfect for resupplying the new artificial islands that the Chinese are building in the SCS," said Richard Bitzinger, coordinator of the Military Transformations Program at Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies.

"At the same time, these islands would be excellent bases of operations for the AG600 to engage in maritime patrols of claimed territories."

The AG600 will also serve as political leverage, said Ching Chang, a research fellow at Taiwan's ROC Society for Strategic Studies.

"States need effective governance to support their territorial claim" and the AG600 will enhance China's capability in "law enforcement, fishery patrol, anti-poaching activity on coral reefs, pollution prevention, search and rescue, medical rescue transportation, meteorological and seismic survey, namely, all the government functions that may signify its substantial governance in the South China Sea."

This type of governance and control will serve China's argument that the islands are "inhabitable according to UNCLOS [United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea] requirements, which support the PRC [People's Republic of China] to claim an EEZ [exclusive economic zone] in the South China Sea."

CAIGA brochures indicate the AG600 can fulfill four missions: search and rescue (SAR), fire fighting, transport (up to 50 passengers), and maritime surveillance. These aircraft might also serve China's military in the roles of signal intelligence and electronic intelligence, said Sam Bateman, adviser, Maritime Security Programme, S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, Singapore.

However, Bateman does not see these aircraft as a "game changer" in the SCS, though they could serve to "quickly resupply and reinforce the military outposts on islands without air strips."

CAIGA brochures make no mention of a military application, but history indicates that seaplanes have a relatively small commercial market. The existing producers of large amphibious aircraft, Japan and Russia, indicate that the market for fire fighting and SAR missions is small, said Vasiliy Kashin, a China military specialist at Moscow's Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies. Both aircraft producers are legacies of the Cold War, he said, and in comparison China has created a new design and established a new production line for an aircraft that has a terrible commercial market history.

"Since the program can hardly be justified by the civilian demand, the likely explanation is that the program has a significant military importance," Kashin said.

The AG600 is not the only seaplane under development by CAIGA. At the 2014 Airshow China, the company displayed models of the twin-engine turboprop-engine powered H660 and H631, each with a similar payload and range. There was also a model of the four turbofan-engine powered H680 Sea Eagle.

The company also builds two light passenger seaplanes, the 208B and HO300, both with a range of roughly 1,000-1,500 kilometers.

 

[ahojunk]

Pic of the seaplane:-

Jiaolong (Water Dragon) AG600

 

[Elkanah]

Any new photos of China's so called wall of sand out there?