***Upgradation of T-72 tanks begins in Jaisalmer***

[Omega007]

Indian army still uses about 800 T55s and Vijayantar in active service.Now if I correctly remember A.K.Antony told in parliament last year that IA would replace all of their older tanks with Arjuns.Now FMBT will not come untill atleast 2022,so induction no earlier than 2024 at best.So there is over a decade is left and so Arjun mk2s will have to be produced in order to keep the HVF runnig.So at current 60 tanks per year over 700 mk2s can be produced.
Now if we look at the army force level the IA has a recomended tank force of 4600 tanks.In future there will be 1600 T 90s,2000 T 72s will be started to replace by FMBT.So there will be a gap of near 1000 tanks which can be filled by Arjuns.So I think Arjun still has its place in IA tank force.
REGARDS....

 

[Jon Snow]

How old r u?



Lol what a comparison!

all the modern tanks have either a 120mm gun or 125mm
Fcs,night visions,era,rha.


But does it have a upgraded awesome gun like AK,can it fire missiles? does it have IMBS?does it have protection systems like RAHBAR n VARTA-1?etc etc among other systems......

Ur just a fan boy embarassing urself.....

On specs AK beats ur finest t-90 bhisma n arjun.

yes it can fire missiles- look up 9M119 svir anti tank missile.....
as for protection suites- I only know that russians offeres the shtora 1 and since the russians are taking part in the upgrade it will have that also
It will also have NBC protection developed by DRDO.....

 

[DarK-LorD]

Guys please visit DRDO's official tech focus pdf it clearly states in it's combat improved ajeya section that 710 of then have already been delivered to Indian Army.http://drdo.gov.in/drdo/pub/techfocus/2011/tf_june2011.pdf

 

[Omega007]

Fan boy....... indian army cant the whole fleet of t-72...its indian army not the US marines!


Also how will it be effectives as AK? when even the basic AK beats ur arjun and t-90 hands down on specs!

Hey stop your bullshit.Al junks don't have any APS,it is planned only for al khlid II which is still a long way off.
Your al junks don't have a 'awesome' but an average gun at best.The biggest drawback of al junk is their inability to fire modern longrod penetrators.The al junk fires the apds rounds that have rods of only 550 mn length and 7.2 kg weight.The tungsten rounds(1720m/sec) can penetrate only 480 mm rha and DU naza(1400m/sec) can penetrate only 550 mm rha at 2000 meter according to the official website of pakistan ordnance factory.
On the other hand Arjun's 120 mm rounds pack 960 mm rods,weight of 10.8 kg and are fitted with a hardened ballistic cap and as a result they can pierce 720-760 mm rha at 2400 meter with a same mussel velocity of 1720 m/sec.So even the out dated mk1 120 mm FSAPDS T rounds out perform the DU rounds of al junks with a large margin.

 

[Jon Snow]

as i said earlier- no need to embarass the al khalid by comparing it to arjun etc...... As i have stated above the t 72 upg has basically the same system the ak uses.......
Slight correction ak does have aps- it is ukrainian version of the shtora 1

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Hey stop your bullshit.Al junks don't have any APS,it is planned only for al khlid II which is still a long way off.
Your al junks don't have a 'awesome' but an average gun at best.The biggest drawback of al junk is their inability to fire modern longrod penetrators.The al junk fires the apds rounds that have rods of only 550 mn length and 7.2 kg weight.The tungsten rounds(1720m/sec) can penetrate only 480 mm rha and DU naza(1400m/sec) can penetrate only 550 mm rha at 2000 meter according to the official website of pakistan ordnance factory.
On the other hand Arjun's 120 mm rounds pack 960 mm rods,weight of 10.8 kg and are fitted with a hardened ballistic cap and as a result they can pierce 720-760 mm rha at 2400 meter with a same mussel velocity of 1720 m/sec.So even the out dated mk1 120 mm FSAPDS T rounds out perform the DU rounds of al junks with a large margin.

Cool down son this is not ur home calling names n ranting like a little girl wont do u any good!

Aljunks? did u get tht frn arjunk with only 125 in service a failed german design?

Educate urself boy.
Al-Khalid tank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Some questions related to number of tanks in Pakistan Army

 

[IND151]

^^ open second link and watch neatly Pakistani nationalist. zraver has burst myth of AL Khalid superiority.

 

[chat]

^^ open second link and watch neatly Pakistani nationalist. zraver has burst myth of AL Khalid superiority.

why india is upgrading tin cans.to know the reality of tincans just watch the videos of russia georgia war where t-90 s were blown up like tin cans with diwali patakha

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I bet zavier tested AK himself and upgraded the AK to AK-I level while cooperating with HIT!

Here is a link abt AK ammo for the fan boy above:


Pakistan Ordnance Factories
Looks like the site hasnt been updated either....... doesnt even mention naiza DU...... Also i heard arj... cant even fire a DU.Has no APS,IBMS and its engines seizes in the heat of rajhisthan!?,has no auto loader,short gun life,AC stos working and is to heavy for transportation, etc etc

 

[Omega007]

Oh!My bad!Al khalid does have an ukranian aps.So what?The indigenous aps for Arjun mk2 has already been developed.Your precious al khalid's gun is very weak as compared to Arjun's main gun according to your official website.
The Al khalid has a much thinner and weaker armor than Arjun.
But the biggest drawback of al khalid is the carosal autoloaders.They can't hold the modern long rod ammos.But moreover they store the ammos around the crew compartment and if in the battlefield the armor is penetrated(which will definately be)the crew will die an agonising death.

 

[Omega007]

I bet zavier tested AK himself and upgraded the AK to AK-I level while cooperating with HIT!

Here is a link abt AK ammo for the fan boy above:


Pakistan Ordnance Factories
Looks like the site hasnt been updated either....... doesnt even mention naiza DU...... Also i heard arj... cant even fire a DU.

Well,I told everything from your ordnance factory website.So that makes you the fan boy oldman.
And why do we need DU rounds when our older Tungsten rounds out perform you naiza DU rounds by a sizable margin??
By the way,your 'Arjun can fire DU rounds'proves that your knowledge about tanks are zero at best.Any tank can fire DU rounds,it doesnot matter what the penetration core is made of,which matter is the diametere of the round, if it is compatible with the gun or not.
REGARDS....

 

[chat]

I bet zavier tested AK himself and upgraded the AK to AK-I level while cooperating with HIT!

Here is a link abt AK ammo for the fan boy above:


Pakistan Ordnance Factories
Looks like the site hasnt been updated either....... doesnt even mention naiza DU...... Also i heard arj... cant even fire a DU.Has no APS,IBMS and its engines seizes in the heat of rajhisthan!?,has no auto loader,short gun life,AC stos working and is to heavy for transportation, etc etc

Rajasthan is assigned to Arjuns.So when arjun can beat the crap out of t-90 tin cans then it will sure beat the crap out of another tin can aka al-khalid and sure it will make al khalid immortal by reincarnation.

 

[kaku1]

This is just a waste of large amount of resources.Instead of upgrading those rusting tin junks they could have bought humdreds of brand new Arjuns which are light years ahead of these rustbuckets.But our army is the dumbest of all 3 branches.The soldiers loved the Arjuns so much but still our army is putting the valuable lives in great danger.These rust buckets can't even stand against the Al khalids,leave aside the Type 99s.Shame on our army,the top brass is worthless..

Yes, it is totally true that Arjun is one of the best tank in world. And we can also compare these tanks with American M1 Abrams. I think you are saying that we needed the mass production of these tanks, but you tell me what is the need of mass production of these tanks. Because of these heavy weight, around 60 ton, we cannot place them in LOC and LAC. The area left is only thar desert, but I think their is their is no need to place too many number their as these tanks are not made to tackle with the Al Khalid. For this tank, Al Khalid become a easy target. Short number are also sufficient to tackle them.

Leave the point of Type-99, People's Army not manufacturing these tanks to place them on Indo-China border. They also have lots of fear, because of that they are going with these tanks.

For tackling China and Pakistan on Kashmir, we donot need a heavy tank. We needed a light tank. For their we needed light tank like T-72 and T-90.I think MoD should also start the project of Tank Ex Mk 2. Actually, IA not needed a heavy tank. The heavy number of Arjun only needed in worst case scenario.

 

[Omega007]

By the way mr pakistani nationalist,everything I told back there are proven facts.Arjun's ammos are much heavier than al khalid's because they are bigger.So at same mussel velocity the Arjun's penetrators achives greater momentum and hence better performance.It's all physics,nothing fanboy staff here.I don't know what do you do but I am a medical student and I secured 89% in physics in HS exam.So don't call me a fanboy,it's you who always claim without simple facts what makes you the damn fanboy oldman.
REGARDS....

 

[chat]

Arjun is one tank that can blow anything to pieces pakistan and china can field in battle.