Unconfirmed reports, Hakimullah Mehsud, succumbs to his injuries
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couple of weeks ago Americans claimed he is dead and he released his new video confirming he was not dead....... wait for a while from the confirmation from ttp........ either they will release a new video or might confirm it? but lets wait for the statement from ttp first
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yaar ye marty kyoon nhi?.
you ruined my day.
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I presume U were on those planes since you have first hand information ?
Batman what would this forum do without your outlandish theories ?
Ok so shall i write what is acceptable to you and alike.
Do you want me to say TTP was brain child of Asif Ali Zardari!
It was infact him who funded billions of dollars of this campaign from his pocket and organised training for them, and organised state of the art war managment system based on US sattelites for them!
later he also advised Mehsud to attack on cricket team, mosques and most of above army families and officers off duty! so that indians get all the nuclear deals from US.
He also contracted xe and asked them to used fake plates and brand prohibited wepons and over run security cardons!
Happy
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I thought CIA shot the helfire through that drone and later on some guys in US media claimed tat hes no more ..!
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"I thought CIA shot the helfire through that drone..."
Yup, but when have we EVER acknowledged doing so officially?
"... and later on some guys in US media claimed tat hes no more ..!"
Think some tribal leader made the initial report back on January 14. Here's what the London Times said then-
C.I.A. Drone Strike Hits Hakimullah Mehsud Compound-Times of London Jan. 14, 2010
"A local tribal leader said Hakimullah Mehsud was killed in the early-morning raid, but the Taleban insisted he was still alive. Pakistani officials have not yet made any claim over his fate."
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Yup, but when have we EVER acknowledged doing so officially?
"... and later on some guys in US media claimed tat hes no more ..!"
Think some tribal leader made the initial report back on January 14. Here's what the London Times said then-
C.I.A. Drone Strike Hits Hakimullah Mehsud Compound-Times of London Jan. 14, 2010
"A local tribal leader said Hakimullah Mehsud was killed in the early-morning raid, but the Taleban insisted he was still alive. Pakistani officials have not yet made any claim over his fate."
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Has Hakimullah died of wounds?
Monday, February 01, 2010
Military spokesman says checking reports; TTP denies
By our correspondent
PESHAWAR: Military authorities and government functionaries were not yet ready to confirm reports about the death of Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud even though news started circulating again on Sunday that he had succumbed to injuries suffered in a US drone attack in South Waziristan on January 14.
Major Gen Athar Abbas, military spokesman and Director General of Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), said efforts were being made to check the reports about Hakimullahs death. We neither confirm nor deny these reports, he told The News.
Government functionaries in Peshawar, Islamabad and in the tribal areas were also reluctant to make a categorical statement about this sensitive issue. In fact, most were following the intense media coverage on the Hakimullah issue.
The Taliban again denied allthe reports and insisted that Hakimullah was alive. Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesman Azam Tariq told reporters from an undisclosed location on Sunday that this was part of the propaganda against the Taliban. He reminded that Hakimullah, on two occasions after the January 14 drone strike by the US in the Shaktoi area of South Waziristan, recorded his voice and sent the audio-tapes to the media to prove that he was alive.
The reports about Hakimullahs death on Sunday started circulating when the state-run TV channel flashed the news without citing any sources that the Taliban commander had succumbed to his injuries in the Mamozai area of Orakzai Agency and had been buried in the village of his father-in-law in that area. As the state TV channel was running the news, it was felt this must have been cleared and confirmed by the government. However, neither the government nor the military was willing to confirm the news.
Certain other TV channels also carried the news, but most quoted the official TV channel for the story. The news was also carried by international wire services and newspapers. It may be added that some US officials have been privately saying that they believed Hakimullah had died. But they too didnt want to publicly confirm the news.
The unconfirmed reports stated that Hakimullah was injured in the neck, chest and legs in the US drone attack on a compound in Shaktoi on January 14 and was brought to Tajaka village in the Mamozai area of Orakzai Agency for treatment at the house of his father-in-law. A doctor was reportedly summoned from Hangu to treat him. Another report said he was taken to two private hospitals where doctors said the injured man would not survive. This report claimed Hakimullah went into coma and may have died on January 26. To make these reports credible, those convinced that Hakimullah is dead maintain that villagers in Orakzai Agency were warned by the Taliban not to disclose this piece of information.
The problem is that none of the sources providing the above-mentioned information were willing to be quoted. Therefore, the most authentic confirmation would come when the Taliban admit as they did eventually in case of Baitullah Mehsud that Hakimullah indeed had died after succumbing to his injuries.
Hakimullah, it may be recalled, earned the wrath of the US when he was seen in a videotape sitting with the Jordanian suicide bomber Dr Human Khalil al-Malal al-Balawi, who attacked the CIA station in Khost in southern Afghanistan late last month and killed seven CIA agents and injured six others. Al-Balawi in that tape pledged to avenge the death of Baitullah Mehsud, who too was killed in a US drone strike on August 5, 2009 in South Waziristan.
Agencies add: Intelligence officials said reports indicated Hakimullah was taken to Orakzai tribal region after the drone attack on two vehicles, and that he may have been killed or wounded.
A tribal elder told the AP that he attended Mehsuds funeral in the Mamozai area of Orakzai on Thursday. He said Mehsud was buried in Mamozai graveyard after he died at his in-laws home. The elder spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution from the Taliban.
Has Hakimullah died of wounds?
Monday, February 01, 2010
Military spokesman says checking reports; TTP denies
By our correspondent
PESHAWAR: Military authorities and government functionaries were not yet ready to confirm reports about the death of Pakistani Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud even though news started circulating again on Sunday that he had succumbed to injuries suffered in a US drone attack in South Waziristan on January 14.
Major Gen Athar Abbas, military spokesman and Director General of Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), said efforts were being made to check the reports about Hakimullahs death. We neither confirm nor deny these reports, he told The News.
Government functionaries in Peshawar, Islamabad and in the tribal areas were also reluctant to make a categorical statement about this sensitive issue. In fact, most were following the intense media coverage on the Hakimullah issue.
The Taliban again denied allthe reports and insisted that Hakimullah was alive. Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) spokesman Azam Tariq told reporters from an undisclosed location on Sunday that this was part of the propaganda against the Taliban. He reminded that Hakimullah, on two occasions after the January 14 drone strike by the US in the Shaktoi area of South Waziristan, recorded his voice and sent the audio-tapes to the media to prove that he was alive.
The reports about Hakimullahs death on Sunday started circulating when the state-run TV channel flashed the news without citing any sources that the Taliban commander had succumbed to his injuries in the Mamozai area of Orakzai Agency and had been buried in the village of his father-in-law in that area. As the state TV channel was running the news, it was felt this must have been cleared and confirmed by the government. However, neither the government nor the military was willing to confirm the news.
Certain other TV channels also carried the news, but most quoted the official TV channel for the story. The news was also carried by international wire services and newspapers. It may be added that some US officials have been privately saying that they believed Hakimullah had died. But they too didnt want to publicly confirm the news.
The unconfirmed reports stated that Hakimullah was injured in the neck, chest and legs in the US drone attack on a compound in Shaktoi on January 14 and was brought to Tajaka village in the Mamozai area of Orakzai Agency for treatment at the house of his father-in-law. A doctor was reportedly summoned from Hangu to treat him. Another report said he was taken to two private hospitals where doctors said the injured man would not survive. This report claimed Hakimullah went into coma and may have died on January 26. To make these reports credible, those convinced that Hakimullah is dead maintain that villagers in Orakzai Agency were warned by the Taliban not to disclose this piece of information.
The problem is that none of the sources providing the above-mentioned information were willing to be quoted. Therefore, the most authentic confirmation would come when the Taliban admit as they did eventually in case of Baitullah Mehsud that Hakimullah indeed had died after succumbing to his injuries.
Hakimullah, it may be recalled, earned the wrath of the US when he was seen in a videotape sitting with the Jordanian suicide bomber Dr Human Khalil al-Malal al-Balawi, who attacked the CIA station in Khost in southern Afghanistan late last month and killed seven CIA agents and injured six others. Al-Balawi in that tape pledged to avenge the death of Baitullah Mehsud, who too was killed in a US drone strike on August 5, 2009 in South Waziristan.
Agencies add: Intelligence officials said reports indicated Hakimullah was taken to Orakzai tribal region after the drone attack on two vehicles, and that he may have been killed or wounded.
A tribal elder told the AP that he attended Mehsuds funeral in the Mamozai area of Orakzai on Thursday. He said Mehsud was buried in Mamozai graveyard after he died at his in-laws home. The elder spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution from the Taliban.
Has Hakimullah died of wounds?
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You should maintain a dairy of your theories, I bet it would be a bestseller in comic fiction category.
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You should maintain a dairy of your theories, I bet it would be a bestseller in comic fiction category.
hahahahaha well said....waiting for reply....i kind of enjoy this kind of duets...
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TTP damaged
Dawn Editorial
Monday, 01 Feb, 2010
Another week, another round of rumours that Hakeemullah Mehsud, the TTP leader on the run, has been killed by a drone strike. This time the strike in question took place on Jan 17 either in South or North Waziristan. Pakistanis officials are insisting that an injured Hakeemullah was taken for medical treatment elsewhere before eventually succumbing to his injuries.
At the time of writing this editorial, there has been no independent verification of Hakeemullah’s death. However, the rumours come at what appears to be a critical time for the TTP. Military operations have resumed in Bajaur Agency, where parts of Mamond and an area near the Pak-Afghan border still have a significant militant presence. Maulana Fazullah and his two senior-most commanders are believed to be in the Mamond area while Pakistan has long argued that the Khan of Kunar is providing sanctuary to militants and allowing them to cross over the Pak-Afghan border and stir up trouble in Bajaur. Why these areas were allowed to fester by the Pakistan Army is not clear (perhaps a premature focus on other areas is to blame) but it seems that this time the army is intent on finishing the job.
Similarly, the few trouble spots in Mohmand Agency may also be cleared soon. Add to this the intelligence and counter-terrorism successes in places like Peshawar, where the rate of suicide and fidayeen attacks has dropped in recent weeks, and Karachi, where big and small militants are frequently being caught, and a picture emerges of the TTP on the back foot — perhaps decisively so.
Of course, North Waziristan looms large and the TTP’s links to the bombing of the CIA’s forward operating base in Khost demonstrates the group’s continuing power to inflict severe damage. And even if Hakeemullah Mehsud is dead, potential leaders such as Waliur Rehman and Qari Husain are waiting in the wings. So the violence is not on the verge of ending; indeed, if Hakeemullah is dead the country will be bracing itself for retaliatory strikes. But neither should the severe damage inflicted on the TTP be underestimated. South Waziristan was the ‘centre of gravity’ and Swat/Malakand division a radical attempt at supplanting the state’s writ in areas outside Fata. Both are no more under the TTP’s control.
In addition, the security forces have disrupted the communications network of the militants, making it more difficult for them to coordinate. All of this has seriously hurt the TTP. However, as we have argued before, lasting gains will only be had if there is success on another front: the capture or elimination of the TTP leadership. The hunt for them must be intensified.
Dawn Editorial
Monday, 01 Feb, 2010
Another week, another round of rumours that Hakeemullah Mehsud, the TTP leader on the run, has been killed by a drone strike. This time the strike in question took place on Jan 17 either in South or North Waziristan. Pakistanis officials are insisting that an injured Hakeemullah was taken for medical treatment elsewhere before eventually succumbing to his injuries.
At the time of writing this editorial, there has been no independent verification of Hakeemullah’s death. However, the rumours come at what appears to be a critical time for the TTP. Military operations have resumed in Bajaur Agency, where parts of Mamond and an area near the Pak-Afghan border still have a significant militant presence. Maulana Fazullah and his two senior-most commanders are believed to be in the Mamond area while Pakistan has long argued that the Khan of Kunar is providing sanctuary to militants and allowing them to cross over the Pak-Afghan border and stir up trouble in Bajaur. Why these areas were allowed to fester by the Pakistan Army is not clear (perhaps a premature focus on other areas is to blame) but it seems that this time the army is intent on finishing the job.
Similarly, the few trouble spots in Mohmand Agency may also be cleared soon. Add to this the intelligence and counter-terrorism successes in places like Peshawar, where the rate of suicide and fidayeen attacks has dropped in recent weeks, and Karachi, where big and small militants are frequently being caught, and a picture emerges of the TTP on the back foot — perhaps decisively so.
Of course, North Waziristan looms large and the TTP’s links to the bombing of the CIA’s forward operating base in Khost demonstrates the group’s continuing power to inflict severe damage. And even if Hakeemullah Mehsud is dead, potential leaders such as Waliur Rehman and Qari Husain are waiting in the wings. So the violence is not on the verge of ending; indeed, if Hakeemullah is dead the country will be bracing itself for retaliatory strikes. But neither should the severe damage inflicted on the TTP be underestimated. South Waziristan was the ‘centre of gravity’ and Swat/Malakand division a radical attempt at supplanting the state’s writ in areas outside Fata. Both are no more under the TTP’s control.
In addition, the security forces have disrupted the communications network of the militants, making it more difficult for them to coordinate. All of this has seriously hurt the TTP. However, as we have argued before, lasting gains will only be had if there is success on another front: the capture or elimination of the TTP leadership. The hunt for them must be intensified.
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Batman doesn't understand the difference between afghan uzbeks of the N.A. and uzbek islamists of the IMU out of Uzbekistan like Yuldashev/Khojayev. When you read or hear stories of uzbeks in FATAville, it's invariably these cats.
IMU was formed by Juma Khojayev (A.K.A. Namangani) and Tahir Yuldashev and fought from taliban territory in Afghanistan against Kyrgyzstan in 1999 and 2000 but were kicked out of A-stan in 2001 by the U.S. and fled into Waziristan.
They are mercenaries, alright, but islamist mercenaries for hire and men without a country, whatever's left of them.
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Indeed, while many of the Uzbeks were fighting for legitimate reasons against the Taliban and for a voice in national affairs for the population, there were and are still many Uzbek terrorist organizations, some of which who turned on moderate Uzbeks such as Azad Beg with direction from Taliban >>> ultimately ISI (it is important to note such figures as Azad Beg were assassinated methodically by the fundamenetal Islamist mercenaries you spoke of and correctly identified because of their inability to understand that the Muslim powers outside were funding the fundamentalists to pave the way for Taliban rule.)
Jamat i Islami leader Qazi Islamuddin was an Uzbek who made it a prerogative to mow down any Uzbeks who were non-sympathetic to the "Islamic cause" ie against the Taliban. I assume you know about the Guruh-i-Kar whose role was to break Pan Turkism forces in Afghanistan by infiltrating their groups, sowing seeds of dissent and having these pockets of alliances and resistance in chaos for benefit of the fundamentalist Talibs and their backers.
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