U.S. Signals Shift on How to End Syrian Civil War

[Steve781]

should not in first place when you are aganist WMD

Nothing to do with the rebels though. Quit while you're behind.

 

[BDforever]

Nothing to do with the rebels though. Quit while you're behind.

supporting arms conflict which leads to civil war is always bad step

 

[Syrian Lion]

Diplomatic support not military support. Show me when British arms have been sent to Syrian rebels and when British forces have been training them? You can't.

Well the UK have sent a lot of military equipment from or as they call it "non-lethal" plus a diplomatic support to those terrorists strengthen them...
West training Syrian rebels in Jordan | World news | theguardian.com


The UK had a lot of plans to train terrorists but it gave it the USA, but that doesn't mean UK is against it...
UK military's secret plan to train Syrian rebels to topple Bashar al-Assad | World news | theguardian.com

 

[Steve781]

Well the UK have sent a lot of military equipment from or as they call it "non-lethal" plus a diplomatic support to those terrorists strengthen them...
West training Syrian rebels in Jordan | World news | theguardian.com


The UK had a lot of plans to train terrorists but it gave it the USA, but that doesn't mean UK is against it...
UK military's secret plan to train Syrian rebels to topple Bashar al-Assad | World news | theguardian.com

Revealed: What the West has given Syria's rebels - Middle East - World - The Independent
8 million. 8 million! You think this is substantial when compared with 3 billion each from KSA and Qatar?
I disagree with Britain's policy on Syria but in the list of countries responsible for the mess we rank very low.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Revealed: What the West has given Syria's rebels - Middle East - World - The Independent
8 million. 8 million! You think this is substantial when compared with 3 billion each from KSA and Qatar?
I disagree with Britain's policy on Syria but in the list of countries responsible for the mess we rank very low.

Yes, gcc countries spent billions on arming and supplying terrorists in Syria and they are failing badly they only created terrorists that now threaten them... Of course USA and the west don't have to spend a penny, why would they when the gcc is paying for everything.... And most likely UK was compensated for those 8 million.. The gcc pays the west a lot in order to implement sanctions against Syria and Iran.. And etc...
The problem is the west allowing countries like gcc to support terrorism... But again the west will benefit from that bc gcc will pay them to buy weapons fearing from the same terrorists they raised would attack them

 

[Metanoia]

this doesn't apply to Syria, this is the war we are fighting in order to keep Syria a sovereign,independent country. we Syrians refuse to kneel down to the west, we will fight to the last blood drop in order to keep Syria for Syrians only.....
and those countries who have it easy, they could have everything, but they don't have the most important thing, true freedom, they don't have sovereignty.. they sold their dignity, they betrayed their country...
you have groups like F$A terrorists, those are nothing but US mercs, US is now going to train them, and then hoping they would install them in order for the US to take over Syria... but Syrians will never allow those terrorist to take control of the country...

Sir I am not talking about principals...just the reality of things. I can completely understand your perspective

My view does apply to Syria...as Syria does exist (currently fights/resists) but what state is it in? That's my point.

Currently it is a war of attrition...what do you reckon will happen in the next decade or so? Who do you reckon has the money, the man power and the good 'ol resources? Who has the more powerful allies?

What are the chances that Syria will be able to rebuild the entire destroyed infrastructure, the army and the entire society?

Americans can invest the next 10 years or so just waiting....see how they eventually took down Iraq?

In my opinion victory and defeat are all subjective terms. I suppose it is only Vietnam which has been genuinely able to defeat the Americans...as the Americans actually had to run for their lives (retreat in panic). Not only that but Vietnam managed to rebound and build themselves up....but even then in the end they had to embrace the Americans (for economic & geo-political reasons)


PS: I don't know what the future holds, I am just basing my opinion based on contemporary history (vis-a-vis US) and whatever else is happening at this current point in time. Also I am not taking any sides neither I am deriding one

 

[airmarshal]

It's not "the West" who is giving them the overwhelming majority of their arms it's Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar. People on here just ignore this fact because it doesn't fit their prejudices.

Nope. Its the West. All the countries you have mentioned are allies of the West. Also, it was Britain, then France that accepted the Syrian Govt in exile. It was a wink to these countries in the region to go ahead and do their dirty tricks in Syria.

 

[Steve781]

Nope. Its the West. All the countries you have mentioned are allies of the West. Also, it was Britain, then France that accepted the Syrian Govt in exile. It was a wink to these countries in the region to go ahead and do their dirty tricks in Syria.

Saudi Arabia is one of the most powerful countries in the world. They are quite capable of making up their own minds and they have their own unique policies. And the SNC is based in Turkey and Qatar.

 

[xenon54 out]

It's not "the West" who is giving them the overwhelming majority of their arms it's Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar. People on here just ignore this fact because it doesn't fit their prejudices.

Turkey didnt sent weapons to Syria at all apart from a delivery to Turkmens around Suleyman Shah Tomb to protect it from isis which never arrived its destination anyway, where are you pullig those ''infos'' out?

 

[Steve781]

Turkey didnt sent weapons to Syria at all apart from a delivery to Turkmens around Suleyman Shah Tomb to protect it from isis which never arrived its destination anyway, where are you pullig those ''infos'' out?

Turkish military says MIT shipped weapons to al-Qaeda - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

 

[xenon54 out]

Turkish military says MIT shipped weapons to al-Qaeda - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

Thats the delivery i was talking about, it was heading to Turkmens around Suleyman Shah Tomb.