U.S. sends message to Turkey, halts F-35 equipment shipments

[crankthatskunk]

No. you didn't read carefully what i was writing:
NATO. Turkey is NATO. So it is seen as a treason for the Americans.

India is no NATO. neither KSA. these people can buy US and Russian.

OK. What are the excuses use to withdraw F35 by the USA!!!
That technology is vulnerable because Russians can get information on the high tech USA/Western assets through S 400.
Does that not apply to India!! OR their S 400 would be museum pieces/Show pieces!!

 

[urienreghed]

OK. What are the excuses use to withdraw F35 by the USA!!!
That technology is vulnerable because Russians can get information on the high tech USA/Western assets through S 400.
Does that not apply to India!! OR their S 400 would be museum pieces/Show pieces!!

About India.

In the case of India, the US has threatened to impose sanctions under Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA) legislation. China has already had similar sanctions imposed.

And again Turkey is strategic very strategic for USA.

A number of Turkish sources have indicated that as a result of threats by the U.S. to cancel the sale of the F-35, Ankara could acquire the Russian Su-57 fifth generation air superiority fighter in its stead. By cancelling the F-35, not only would the United States lose one of its oldest clients for combat aircraft, but Israel, Greece and other potential Turkish adversaries would also find themselves facing a considerably more dangerous Turkish air fleet than they would have had Ankara purchased the American stealth fighter

 

[MMM-E]

You Turkey has problem with Egypt?

Puppet SISI has problem with TURKIYE

Egypt was allies with Greece and Israel against Turkey in the Eastern Mediteranean

Dude, Russian junk will underperform in the hour of your need. Perhaps you are not paying attention to failure of Russian hardware in numerous theaters since the 1980s. Please do.

Turkey has its own Military projects including HISAR , SIPER and GUMS Air Defense Systems and TF-X 5th gen stealth Fighter Jet .... but Turkey needs 10 years

and even old S200 kicked Israeli F-16 ... S-400 is nightmare for enemies
SU-35 and SU-57 are state of the art technology great war machines and Turkish defense companies like Aselsan can turn SU-35 or SU-57 to more lethal and modern

Russian weapons are not junk ,,, in military technology Russians are ahead of all Muslim countries , also China , India , Japan , S .Korea even Europe

 

[Oublious]

s-400 definitly, it is not end of the world if they put us out of F35.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Puppet SISI has problem with TURKIYE

Egypt was allies with Greece and Israel against Turkey in the Eastern Med

Egypt is a dirty dog. IT always betrays Muslims, ever since its arse was wiped by Israel and Uncle Sam got it under their arms. Everything Egypt does is to please Uncle Sam, cannot live without their patronage.
No wonder the legitimate government was thrown and SISI placed on thrown to provide support to its masters, now both USA and Israel. To some extent add India too.
In recent conflict they were among the first one to declare their support for India.

Turkey has its own Military projects including HISAR , SIPER and GUMS Air Defense Systems and TF-X 5th gen stealth Fighter Jet .... but Turkey needs 10 years

and even old S200 kicked Israeli F-16 ... S-400 is nightmare for enemies
SU-35 and SU-57 are state of the art technology great war machines and Turkish defense companies like Aselsan can turn SU-35 or SU-57 to more lethal and modern

Russian weapons are not junk ,,, in military technology Russians are ahead of all Muslim countries , also China , India , Japan , S .Korea even Europe

Turkey and Pakistan both should rely on domestic technologies rather than relying on West to supply them cutting edge technologies. Both countries need a decade or more to be par with the West. So be it. We should patiently work on getting our industrial bases ready to produce what is produced in the West.
Some of Turkey's hardware are already world class, with time the will get better. And other product will join the queue. When you have built the bases for technologies, only way is up with time and research.

Same way Pakistan products, like Super Mushaq and K8 are very popular around the world now. Soon JF 17 will join them. There are many smaller arms which sell well. If we to produce good quality Tanks and work on Engines, Radars, etc. even in joint ventures, that would be fantastic.

Both countries are on positive paths.
Contrary if you look at India, for over 50 years they have been shouting the slogan of "Indigenius" (purposeful spelling) but still nowhere in the technology sphere. Most of their projects if not all are complete failures.
They cannot even master the technologies they buy from West, Israel and the Russians.

 

[Timur]

Egypt is a dirty dog. IT always betrays Muslims, ever since its arse was wiped by Israel and Uncle Sam got it under their arms. Everything Egypt does is to please Uncle Sam, cannot live without their patronage.
No wonder the legitimate government was thrown and SISI placed on thrown to provide support to its masters, now both USA and Israel. To some extent add India too.
In recent conflict they were among the first one to declare their support for India.




Turkey and Pakistan both should rely on domestic technologies rather than relying on West to supply them cutting edge technologies. Both countries need a decade or more to be par with the West. So be it. We should patiently work on getting our industrial bases ready to produce what is produced in the West.
Some of Turkey's hardware are already world class, with time the will get better. And other product will join the queue. When you have built the bases for technologies, only way is up with time and research.

Same way Pakistan products, like Super Mushaq and K8 are very popular around the world now. Soon JF 17 will join them. There are many smaller arms which sell well. If we to produce good quality Tanks and work on Engines, Radars, etc. even in joint ventures, that would be fantastic.

Both countries are on positive paths.
Contrary if you look at India, for over 50 years they have been shouting the slogan of "Indigenius" (purposeful spelling) but still nowhere in the technology sphere. Most of their projects if not all are complete failures.
They cannot even master the technologies they buy from West, Israel and the Russians.

Egyptians paid a hard price for a glimpse of freedom they were butchered on the streets burned and let them be there and rot and then they were thrown in mass Graves.. The ppl and the government are two things

 

[Oublious]

Why are you talking about Egypt?

 

[crankthatskunk]

Egyptians paid a hard price for a glimpse of freedom they were butchered on the streets burned and let them be there and rot and then they were thrown in mass Graves.. The ppl and the government are two things

Well, I was referring to the State, i.e. the Government. The people don't count, otherwise the elected government wouldn't have thrown out with the help of USA and Sissi installed as puppet.

 

[yavar]

Turkey develops ground based long range cruise and ballistic missiles to engage military and strategic targets in Iran ( even without Airforce Turkish Armed Forces will have lethal strike capability in the next a few years )

this part which is i find more interesting


as soon as the article 5 NATO been removed from Turkey the understanding taking loose will ...........
next Turkey shoot down Russian or any other countries jet i think thing could be little different

 

[ziaulislam]

stupid sectarian comment.

there is no religion in this strategy. Trump is destroying the Canadian economy and makes economic war against Europe.
And France is concurrent of USA for the weapons .

the US decision is logical : NATO way. you buy to Russia => no more US weapons.
that's all about.

nothing else to be understood here.

Unwavering support for single jewish state is a core value of evalengical Christian ..which presents a huge block of votes

Therefore there is no place for Palestine state.. Only small prison strip of Gaza is left ..rest is already absorbed in Jewish state

 

[MMM-E]

The US plays F-35 card against S-400 deal to ask Turkey for endless concessions

The problems between Turkey and the US are multilayered and very complicated
so S-400 just turned into a filter pushing other problems to the back burner

as soon as the article 5 NATO been removed from Turkey the understanding taking loose will ...........
next Turkey shoot down Russian or any other countries jet i think thing could be little different

keep dreaming dream is free

 

[KhalaiMakhlooq]

It is possible that US had "intelligence" of election results and announced this in expectation of that.

 

[nahtanbob]

Kissinger said
Its bad to be americas enemy but its suicidal to be its friend.
Pakistan
Iran
Turkey
The list goes on. Learn people. America is run by jews and the christians are the slaves of jews. Period

Taiwan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Japan, South Korea, UAE, Singapore, Germany have done well

 

[500]

S400 is the best Air Defense System in the World

Who told u that? Erdogans propagandists, who bribe voters for potato?

against Fighter Jets and S400 can turn F-15,F-22,F35,Rafale,Eurofighter,B1,B2,AWACS to burned bird

One F-15 with SLAM or JASSM is enough to turn S-400 into a pile of scrap metal.

so S-400 deal done, joint S-500 production on agenda

S-400 is rebranded S-300. S-500 will be another rebranding.

We prefer Turkish control SU-35 or SU-57 instead of American control useless F35 ( We never forget about Iran's F-14 story )

During Iran-Iraq war F-14 was best fighter hands down shooting down Iraq's Russian fighters like flies.

SU-35 or SU-57 with Turkish software , electronic systems, SPEWS-II self protection electronic warfare suiete IFF system and weapons can match with every Fighter Jet in the region ( including Greek F-16V , Egyptian Rafale and SU-35 , Israeli F-15 and F-35 )

LOL yeah

 

[Hack-Hook]

Its not just GDP, but GDP PPP. It tells a lot. And as I said Cuba survived thanks to MASSIVE foreign aid.

what foreign aid after fall of USSR ?
and again it was not communism , the talk was not about Venezuela the example was Columbia and Cuba , i talked about social security and health care and education .GDP per capita cant talk to you about quality of life, it can say how wealthy a country is , but will it say to you how much wealth is distributed between people of the country ?

by the way the number I found from this site for GDP/Capita PPP are somehow different from yours
Columbia : 13254.95
Cuba : 21016.65

you are mistaking sabotage and corruption with being friend with Russia , the problem with Venezuela is not communism (as they are not Communist )or being Russia friends , Its Sabotage and Corruption .