U.S. sends message to Turkey, halts F-35 equipment shipments

[urienreghed]

A good article:
https://www.defenceiq.com/air-forces-military-aircraft/news/how-capable-is-the-s-400

 

[Balamir]

atak may be, but milgem cant, there would be no gas turbine on pakistani milgem, all critical parts non american including vls system.

milgem is using mk41 vls. In addition, the engine and other parts need not be the property of the United States can make the decisions of these countries can easily convert their own favor.

 

[urienreghed]

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...ter-fighter-for-turkey-infographic-comparison

Turkey’s planned acquisition of the Russian S-400 surface to air missile system over Western made alternatives in particular has led to a number of key figures in the United States leadership to call for reprisals against the country for stepping out of line with the West’s pressure campaign against Russia, with the U.S. even threatening economic sanctions against the country under the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA), which was signed into effect in August 2017 and imposed penalties on states which made large purchases of Russian weapons.

and by the way again, and the previous source i gave, it is clearly said it is sanctions and sanctions concern India, China and Turkey. all the same. it is CAATSA about.

A number of Turkish sources have indicated that as a result of threats by the U.S. to cancel the sale of the F-35, Ankara could acquire the Russian Su-57 fifth generation air superiority fighter in its stead. By cancelling the F-35, not only would the United States lose one of its oldest clients for combat aircraft, but Israel, Greece and other potential Turkish adversaries would also find themselves facing a considerably more dangerous Turkish air fleet than they would have had Ankara purchased the American stealth fighter

 

[500]

Our message to the US : Turkey never will allow the US backed PKK/YPG terror corridor in N.Syria

SU-57E export version ( S400 and SU-57E with Turkish software and IFF ,,, deadly combination )

S-400 - rebranded Soviet S-300. Su-57 - modified Soviet Su-27 rejected by India.

Being friend of USA or USSR is not the reason of what happened to Venezuela .

Well Communism is what happened to Venezuela. Your Iran is another example. GDP er capita on constant prices today is lower than during the Shah 40 years ago.

And even after USSR after the first shock they come back . people of Cuba had access to the education and health service that in Colombia they could not even dream it . even public health service in USA is not like Cuba . people of Colombia can't even dream about the type of social security and retirement pension in Cuba
GDP/Capita is not all .

Its not just GDP, but GDP PPP. It tells a lot. And as I said Cuba survived thanks to MASSIVE foreign aid.

 

[timmy_area51]

eventhough the kemalist won in turkey it is perhaps too late

 

[Aasimkhan]

Membership of NATO bloc have its share of stipulations. Turkey is supposed to abide by these stipulations, or consider leaving.

Turkey is the only Islamic country in the world to whom US is willing to sell F-35 jets, and Turkey is showing utter disregard for this privilege. Your statement is misplaced in this case.

Is S-400 really worth over risking your standing in NATO bloc, NATO's security cover, and some of the finest weaponry in existence? Come on now.

National.pride is more important than weapons. This PREVILIGE you are talking about was available to us in 1965 war , you know what happened? US stopped the supplies in the middle of the war, so open your eyes

Well , even Iran after revolution didn't give any F-14 to Soviet or China (at least there is no official information which confirm this ) ...
doing this will bring American wrath upon Turks which is already have troubled economic ....

There is no wrath, we gave an f16 to China and nothing happened, stop becoming a mental slave to USA

 

[Dai Toruko]

Turkey is doing everything right. If USA breaks an agreement again, no one will make deals again with the USA. Turkey will definietly have a strong response in Syria.

 

[timmy_area51]

Like the americans care about the kurds anyways .

 

[Sully3]

doing business with america for a muslim country is becoming very hard.

in the long run its the US defence industry that suffers.

also in the long run i think the aim of these politicians in US who sanction nearly all equipment sold to muslim countries for various reasons is to eventually destroy the US defence industry and have it all moved to Israel. Israel sees itself as the future of defence industry to the world.

 

[Yankee-stani]

eventhough the kemalist won in turkey it is perhaps too late

Real Kemalists arent pro American tho Turkey only became close to the USA after World War Two and the Marshall Plan, Kemal Ataturk had a neutral policy in the 1930s and had non-aggression pact with Nazi Germany and the USSR plus it stayed neutral during WW2

 

[MMM-E]

S-400 - rebranded Soviet S-300. Su-57 - modified Soviet Su-27 rejected by India.

S400 is the best Air Defense System in the World against Fighter Jets and S400 can turn F-15,F-22,F35,Rafale,Eurofighter,B1,B2,AWACS to burned bird

and Turkish S400 will use Turkish Radar software and IFF System to engage on even Egyptian MIG-29M2 and SU-35

so S-400 deal done, joint S-500 production on agenda





We prefer Turkish control SU-35 or SU-57 instead of American control useless F35 ( We never forget about Iran's F-14 story )

SU-35 or SU-57 with Turkish software , electronic systems, SPEWS-II self protection electronic warfare suiete , IFF system and weapons can match with every Fighter Jet in the region ( including Greek F-16V , Egyptian Rafale and SU-35 , Israeli F-15 and F-35 )

so S-400 , HISAR and SIPER Air Defense Systems + F-16C , SU-35 or SU-57 Fighter Jets + TF-2000 class AAW Destroyers together can turn every enemy Fighter Jet to burned bird in the region in near future

also S-500 Air Defense System on agenda and TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet is under development


and Turkey develops ground based long range cruise and ballistic missiles to engage military and strategic targets in Greece,Israel,Egypt,Iran ( even without Airforce Turkish Armed Forces will have lethal strike capability in the next a few years )

also Turkey develop HURJET and AKINCI - MIUS UCAVs to carry 250+ km SOM air launched Cruise Missile ( land attack and anti ship capability )


btw even SU-27 is enough for F-15

 

[valkyr_96]

Has it happened yet or it is still a threat?

 

[cabatli_53]

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...ter-fighter-for-turkey-infographic-comparison


and by the way again, and the previous source i gave, it is clearly said it is sanctions and sanctions concern India, China and Turkey. all the same. it is CAATSA about.

US use special soft words not to disturb Turkish side. That’s why they say Delivery of F35 has been suspended for Turkey until Turkish side cancel the S-400 deal. That means they have already been testing the solutions to convince Turkish side with showing a side of knife. If they burn the bridge with cancelling Turkish partnership for F-35 program permanantly, They know that Russia won’t let slip this chance to pull Turkey on its side with offering an industrial cooperation for Su-57. This way, The response of Turkey to Greek, Armenian and Jew origin senators of US will be much more painful than They can predict. Let’s wait How much they can go against Turkey while we are receiving S400 batteries...

 

[LeGenD]

National.pride is more important than weapons. This PREVILIGE you are talking about was available to us in 1965 war , you know what happened? US stopped the supplies in the middle of the war, so open your eyes

Bro, Pakistan was never a member state of NATO bloc. Understand the difference.

Turkey wanted to join NATO back in the 1950s and US accepted.

Now Turkey is acting against the interests of NATO bloc so what gives? If the leader of a state is not making sound decisions then what should be the course of action?

US can be a difficult country to deal with, and far from being a role-model state in its dealings but American hypocrisy does not need to be re-emphasized again and again.

Even as a neutral observer (and with soft corner for Turkey), I fail to understand what Tayyip Erdogan really wants.

S400 is the best Air Defense System in the World against Fighter Jets and S400 can turn F-15,F-22,F35,Rafale,Eurofighter,B1,B2,AWACS to burned bird

and Turkish S400 will use Turkish Radar software and IFF System to engage on even Egyptian MIG-29M2 and SU-35

so S-400 deal done, joint S-500 production on agenda





We prefer Turkish control SU-35 or SU-57 instead of American control useless F35 ( We never forget about Iran's F-14 story )

SU-35 or SU-57 with Turkish software , electronic systems, SPEWS-II self protection electronic warfare suiete , IFF system and weapons can match with every Fighter Jet in the region ( including Greek F-16V , Egyptian Rafale and SU-35 , Israeli F-15 and F-35 )

so S-400 , HISAR and SIPER Air Defense Systems + F-16C , SU-35 or SU-57 Fighter Jets + TF-2000 class AAW Destroyers together can turn every enemy Fighter Jet to burned bird in the region in near future

also S-500 Air Defense System on agenda and TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet is under development


and Turkey develops ground based long range cruise and ballistic missiles to engage military and strategic targets in Greece,Israel,Egypt,Iran ( even without Airforce Turkish Armed Forces will have lethal strike capability in the next a few years )

also Turkey develop HURJET and AKINCI - MIUS UCAVs to carry 250+ km SOM air launched Cruise Missile ( land attack and anti ship capability )


btw even SU-27 is enough for F-15

Dude, Russian junk will underperform in the hour of your need. Perhaps you are not paying attention to failure of Russian hardware in numerous theaters since the 1980s. Please do.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

S400 is the best Air Defense System in the World against Fighter Jets and S400 can turn F-15,F-22,F35,Rafale,Eurofighter,B1,B2,AWACS to burned bird

and Turkish S400 will use Turkish Radar software and IFF System to engage on even Egyptian MIG-29M2 and SU-35

so S-400 deal done, joint S-500 production on agenda





We prefer Turkish control SU-35 or SU-57 instead of American control useless F35 ( We never forget about Iran's F-14 story )

SU-35 or SU-57 with Turkish software , electronic systems, SPEWS-II self protection electronic warfare suiete , IFF system and weapons can match with every Fighter Jet in the region ( including Greek F-16V , Egyptian Rafale and SU-35 , Israeli F-15 and F-35 )

so S-400 , HISAR and SIPER Air Defense Systems + F-16C , SU-35 or SU-57 Fighter Jets + TF-2000 class AAW Destroyers together can turn every enemy Fighter Jet to burned bird in the region in near future

also S-500 Air Defense System on agenda and TF-X 5th gen Fighter Jet is under development


and Turkey develops ground based long range cruise and ballistic missiles to engage military and strategic targets in Greece,Israel,Egypt,Iran ( even without Airforce Turkish Armed Forces will have lethal strike capability in the next a few years )

also Turkey develop HURJET and AKINCI - MIUS UCAVs to carry 250+ km SOM air launched Cruise Missile ( land attack and anti ship capability )


btw even SU-27 is enough for F-15

You Turkey has problem with Egypt?