U.S. Military Taught Officers ‘Hiroshima’ Tactics for ‘Total War’ on Islam

[lem34]

It takes much more that one elective course at one academy to change a whole country's outlook. Claims of US defeat are premature.



It was one elective course and in keeping with the need to present all types of scenarios.

Oh give me a break mate. Look at the outrage in America at the slightest comment anti Jewish is sufficient to get you censored. Imagine if they had run a course about eliminating Israel or Jews.

 

[r3alist]

the important point to me is that this course managed to get organised and presumably approved - it wasn't just an idea but it actually happened and went through enough people without objection - does that mean there is a tacit approval of those policies amongst the majority of people who knew of this?

secondly, if this is whats possible to taught then what else are they taught? who can be so stupid to think that if a course like this comes into fruition there arent other crazy and sick views held?

are we surprised that so many civillians are brutalized, killed and humiliated if this is how the us indoctrinates its soldiers?


i dont think its meaningful to just apologise and cut the course out, this is a damaging story (depending on your viewpoint) and ofcourse they will cut this out, but how far us does this go?

I personally actually strongly believe that the West in increasingly at war with radical Islam.

Its more institutionalized in the upper super secret echelons of power in the US.

In Europe its more raw and down and dirty at the people to people level.

Its not a new war either.

Its Utopian to expect that there will be radicals on only one side.

Every force wil be met with a counter-force.

Its the law of nature.

unfortunately for simple ordinary muslims the west is the biggest supporter of radical islam, its a strange thing to say at first but undeniable true.

just look at their relationships over the past 30 years - form the mujhadeen, to the taliban (in the 90's), to libyan al qaeda rebels to the egyption brother hood.

there are always stupid fanatical idiots aplenty who can be used, the west is always the first to use them.

 

[vsdoc]

unfortunately for simple ordinary muslims the west is the biggest supporter of radical islam, its a strange thing to say at first but undeniable true.

just look at their relationships over the past 30 years - form the mujhadeen, to the taliban (in the 90's), to libyan al qaeda rebels to the egyption brother hood.

there are always stupid fanatical idiots aplenty who can be used, the west is always the first to use them.

I agree.

There is no honor amongst thieves.

 

[VCheng]

The matter under discussion is indefensible ...............

One elective course that presents an alternative point of view is "indefensible"? Officers should develop skills necessary to critically evaluate what needs to be done. If one course says "Kill 'em all and nuke Mecca!" they go away knowing that "No, we can't kill them all, and there is no point in nuking Mecca". The course served its purpose well.

 

[VCheng]

............... Imagine if they had run a course about eliminating Israel or Jews.

Actually, those scenarios are developed and discussed too, for example, what happens if Tel Aviv is nuked?

 

[Icarus]

It was one elective course and in keeping with the need to present all types of scenarios.

I don't know who green lighted this course but whoever did, I hope they also added in the preface that such an event would signal the next crusades. Right now, less than 500,000 rag tag militants are keeping about 60 of the world's most advanced armed forces busy and giving them a real run for their money, the ISAF enjoys massive amount of local co-operation. If the holy sites are attacked however, you will be fighting 2 Billion people!
We'll all be pushed back into the middle ages.

 

[vsdoc]

If the holy sites are attacked however, you will be fighting 3 Billion people!

Who is "you"? And by extension, who are these 3 billion people?

 

[Icarus]

Actually, those scenarios are developed and discussed too, for example, what happens if Tel Aviv is nuked?

Yeah, we attended a Think Tank, and were given topics like:

1) An Al-Qaeda based party wins elections in Pakistan and now has control of the PA and Nukes.
2) The First Lady of America is kidnapped and the miscreants are blackmailing the president, would we sack him to avoid him making bad decisions under blackmail?

Among others.

Who is "you"? And by extension, who are these 3 billion people?

You: America

2 Billion (Accidentally wrote 3): Muslims

 

[Developereo]

One elective course that presents an alternative point of view is "indefensible"? Officers should develop skills necessary to critically evaluate what needs to be done. If one course says "Kill 'em all and nuke Mecca!" they go away knowing that "No, we can't kill them all, and there is no point in nuking Mecca". The course served its purpose well.

Do you suppose there is a course at JFSC that "presents an alternative point of view" to nuke major population centers in Africa to discourage Somali pirates?

The subtext here is that the enemy is all Muslims and Islam itself, hence targeting Muslim holy places will form a credible deterrent. Courses like this reinforce that view of the conflict. This is not idle speculation; the repeated incidents of anti-Muslim bigotry by active duty personnel do not happen in a vacuum.

 

[Rank]

loll eek asi koom hey jo Americnoo kay khoob chaat-thi hey wohi usko idar b defend karayge jo kudh accept kar rahay hain.. hoon thay sama he gaye hogay LOLzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[VCheng]

I don't know who green lighted this course but whoever did, I hope they also added in the preface that such an event would signal the next crusades. Right now, less than 500,000 rag tag militants are keeping about 60 of the world's most advanced armed forces busy and giving them a real run for their money, the ISAF enjoys massive amount of local co-operation. If the holy sites are attacked however, you will be fighting 3 Billion people!
We'll all be pushed back into the middle ages.

Exactly correct. What do you think happens when you say to officers of any country "Nuke Mecca, and then kill the outraged 3 billion Muslims!"? The answer will always be "Are you nuts!?". Next scenario!

 

[vsdoc]

You: America

If it comes down to a Crusades type situation, 300 million Americans will not be alone.

You would probably be polarizing the world into the 2.2+ billion Christians.

This would include all of Europe. All of Russia.

IF you gave a religious flavor to this.

3 Billion: Muslims

You highly overestimate. 1.6 billion is more like it.

 

[VCheng]

Do you suppose there is a course at JFSC that "presents an alternative point of view" to nuke major population centers in Africa to discourage Somali pirates?

The subtext here is that the enemy is all Muslims and Islam itself, hence targeting Muslim holy places will form a credible deterrent. This is not idle speculation; the repeated incidents of anti-Muslim bigotry by active duty personnel do not appear in a vacuum.

If USA were in a trillion dollar ten year war with the Somali pirates, you betcha there would be such a course too.

The subtext that you refer to is only arising from your own persecution complexes.

 

[junaid1]

let me assure you, an average Indian Muslim is more literate and earns more than an average Pakistani Muslim,

ohhhhhhh ........... really .that's news to me how can you assure that ?

 

[Zabaniyah]

One elective course that presents an alternative point of view is "indefensible"? Officers should develop skills necessary to critically evaluate what needs to be done. If one course says "Kill 'em all and nuke Mecca!" they go away knowing that "No, we can't kill them all, and there is no point in nuking Mecca". The course served its purpose well.

Then why did they suspend it? There'd been some harsh criticisms from the top levels. Why?