U.S Military launches cruise missile attack on Syria!

[Pyara9]

Note to my self: S-400 is junk and can't defend against cruise missiles just as i suspected. For our neighbors it's still a good time to pull out of the s-400 deal. it won't save you from the wrath of Pakistani cruise missiles with some saffron added as a bonus..

 

[OldTwilight]

Note to my self: S-400 is junk and can't defend against cruise missiles just as i suspected. For our neighbors it's still a good time to pull out of the s-400 deal. it won't save you from the wrath of Pakistani cruise missiles with some saffron added as a bonus..

except Afganistan, your other neighbors have better cruise missiles than Pakistan ...

 

[Pyara9]

US or its lackeys the Brits wouldnt had dared using the same force against North Korea, knowing well what the North can do. Muslim countries including my own are lead by such a wuss and pathetic people that they simply lack the courage to do what needs to be done to safeguard their own country and its people. Pakistan for example was threaten to be bombed back to stone age, than repeated drone strikes, then NATO killed 24 of our soldiers and what did we do other than blocking NATO supply route, absolutely nothing. Even today Pakistani strategic policy makers are too fucking scared to go for longer range missiles, in an futile attempt not to alienate the West. Guess what they are already alienated and they will blow you anyway until they know that they will get blown themselves in the process.
Although i have no hopes but can only pray that this attack on Syria and the defining silence by its main ally Russia opens the eyes of our policy makers who are hedging too many bets on China.

Complete bs. We can never fight the west with thier provide weapons and win. I.e if you truly want to fight them in this day and age it has to be with, education, innovation, technology, economically. We lack in all those fields.

Until we can lead in few of the above going up against west is a suicide.

except Afganistan, your other neighbors have better cruise missiles than Pakistan ...

Maybe they do.. point is s-400 won't save them. Good enough for me. Another point as some neighbors were jumping up and down about s-400 making a no fly zone all over Pakistan. Haha I guess that won't be happening?

Actually I'm starting to doubt all Russian equipment they sure look great on paper. But when it comes to real world tests, just another paper tiger.

 

[OldTwilight]

Until we can lead in few of the above going up against west is a suicide.
Maybe they do.. point is s-400 won't save them. Good enough for me. Another point as some neighbors were jumping up and down about s-400 making a no fly zone all over Pakistan. Haha I guess that won't be happening?

west use her power to keep everyone in check , for example , they pose sanction to us to stop us and destroy us ... they won't wait till you become strong enough to oppose them ....

the fate of war ultimately is decide by offensive capability not defensive one ....

 

[Pyara9]

west use her power to keep everyone in check , for example , they pose sanction to us to stop us and destroy us ... they won't wait till you become strong enough to oppose them ....

the fate of war ultimately is decide by offensive capability not defensive one ....

Sure thing. But when you eat their food(aid/loan) buy their hand me down weapons which they give u as useless junk.

Yet at the same time you want to challenge them in a fight? Really?

What kind of hypocrisy is that?

You want to bite the evil hand that feeds you? How evil can it be when it feeds you?
That same evil hand is biggest donner for Palestinian people.
You want to fight it?

 

[Zibago]

#NukesSaveLives

 

[帅的一匹]

Our overly dependency on China is what i am talking about, not anything against China but the fact that everytime something happens we look at you guys. Every country has its own self interests which are foremost and above everything else. Pakistan lost a whole part while relying overly on the US.
India cannot hit Pakistan even without China, because we can hit them back. I am talking about USA and its lackeys.

Russia did help Syria Assad goverment a lot, remember they bomb the shit out of the IsIs ? The enemy of Russia is too strong, they just can't handle them alone easily. Now both economically and politically Russia is isolated, they pay lots of heavy price to bait Syria out.

 

[Dante80]

Why do you think this is to depressurize? Saddam thought the same thing in the 90s. Turns out his weakness and refusal to strike back made sure America continued to soften him up until his military was in ruins and his people starving.

You know, a very small part of me is happy this happened. A lot of people, even among the pro-Axis club, always held Russia as this huge bulwark against western aggression. They couldn't stop talking about how Putin is a chess player and the Russian bear has awoken from his slumber. They'd relegate Iran to a second-rate ally to Syria. Well, now who the hell is the second-rate ally? Trump called Russia's bluff and Russia didn't do anything. Iran might not have the assets Russia has, but it is a more honourable ally.

My take on this is that in the last week extra-ordinary pressure AND self-interest surfaced in the current US administration to compound for a symbolic strike like this. There were a couple of reasons for that.

1. one-upping the Obama administration, supporting the rhetoric that the current administration is not weak or feeble.
2. alleviating allegations of collusion with Russia.
3. changing the national conversation to obfuscate a number of running scandals (Comey's book, the raid on Cohen, Mueller's probe).
4. Consolidating republican leadership and legislature around the POTUS.

Remember, the current administration was voted in on a non-intervention nationalistic platform. It has been one week or so that the current POTUS proclaimed a policy decision and shift towards leaving Syria.

As I had said at the time military entanglement came to the table just after the chemical attacks, it is both improbable and unwarranted for Russia to escalate against NATO forces if its own forces at the field are not attacked. At the same time, I said that NATO forces will offer a token/symbolic action, because it is impossible for them to actually hurt Assad in a quantitatively significant way, as long as Russia and Iran are strongly in the mix in Syria.

I honestly think that the fact these strikes were (1)duly announced days before, (2)concentrated on a constructed and targeted messaging campaign about chemical weapons, (3)were designed and executed in a way that eliminated Russian escalation or substantive Assad regime harm and (4)included Britain and France for messaging purposes, really supports my argument. RealPolitik-wise, this was a posturing campaign to validate Western Exceptionalism, not a significant move towards the civil war or against the Assad Regime.

Cheers.

 

[帅的一匹]

Why people bash Russia here like they never attempt to help Syria?

 

[HannibalBarca]

Russia did help Syria Assad goverment a lot, remember they bomb the shit out of the IsIs ? The enemy of Russia is too strong, they just can't handle them alone easily. Now both economically and politically Russia is isolated, they pay lots of heavy price to bait Syria out.

Ofc they will... Syria is the last "Chance" for Russia to take back their "Position"... They have to prove to the world... "We can do it till the End..; Choose us instead..."

But things are not turning as "good" as they wished... Every Western Incursion into "Syria" is a blow to Russia agenda...
Who will take an Ally who let others "Freely" strike them... ?

And Russia help was limited to Syria... The one truly "helping ASSad" is indeed Iran...By almost financing the whole "Administration"... Giving endless manpower To fight... Equipment ... etc..

 

[Arsalan 345]

They used old air defence systems like s-200 and other old weapons to brought down missiles.they managed to stop some missiles.i didn't hear about s-400.targets are of no significant importance and this is just face saving.assad backed army already vacated air Base and all of their important weapons are now in Russian stronghold positions.russia made one mistake.they allowed french jets over Assad controlled areas and french targeted something which is not known.russia didn't respond because the attacks was useless and of no importance but allowing french jets over government controlled areas is a mistake.this strike gives nato courage which is bad for Russia.russian image is now becoming so bad in front of the whole world.

 

[IceCold]

Complete bs. We can never fight the west with thier provide weapons and win. I.e if you truly want to fight them in this day and age it has to be with, education, innovation, technology, economically. We lack in all those fields.

Until we can lead in few of the above going up against west is a suicide.

Keep telling that to yourself till they knock on your door like they did in 2001 than you had to bend backwards to appease them. This ideology of a loser needs to be ditched. If history has taught you anything, its the fact that nobody respects the weak. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya are all examples of this.

 

[Pyara9]

Keep telling that to yourself till they knock on your door like they did in 2001 than you had to bend backwards to appease them. This ideology of a loser needs to be ditched. If history has taught you anything, its the fact that nobody respects the weak. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya are all examples of this.

Yeah ok brave man. You misunderstood my point.. My point was we should definitely fight them but not with weapons they provided us as hand me down junk. We would never win. Not when they are providing us food and aid this isn't the time.

They have have dealt with macho men with your thinking in the past.. who bend their knees in front of them i.e Kim jong of Nk. After they blocked his food buddy is ready to bend over just like you will be when you have nothing to eat.

We can fight them in other ways.. i.e economically, technology, etc..

 

[Cthulhu]

Until we can lead in few of the above going up against west is a suicide.

They won't let this happen.

 

[IceCold]

Yeah ok brave man. You misunderstood my point.. My point was we should definitely fight them but not with weapons they provided us as hand me down junk. We would never win. Not when they are providing us food and aid this isn't the time.

We can fight them in other ways.. i.e economically, technology, etc..

I never denied or said that should not be done. However you cannot prosper in one thing and not in the other. Again if history is anything to go by than the so called developed world do not take you as a threat on a single account. All the reasons you mentioned above are also factors that they will use against you to tear you apart and not just because you possess nuclear technology.