Type 052D DDG News & Discussions

[cnleio]

"Made in China" VLS on type052D DDG

 

[cirr]

 

[lcloo]

Living space of 052D, a far cry from the days of 051 DDG.

 

[lcloo]

 

[cnleio]

 

[星海军事]

One 052D is named after Guiyang.

 

[cnleio]

China DaLian shipyard's type052D building

 

[cnleio]

Photos of PLAN type052D training

连日来，南海舰队某驱逐舰支队多艘驱护舰组织舰艇编队，在南海某海域进行了编队运动、舰机协同、直升机引导超视距打击、防空抗导等实战化科目的演练。演练中，他们克服高温、高湿、高盐环境对人员、装备带来的不利影响，通过设置逼真敌情，逼着各级指挥员想办法、找对策，提升了部队在复杂环境遂行使命任务的能力。图为新型驱逐舰主炮射击准备。中新社发 黎友陶 摄

 

[lcloo]

The NBC (nuclear biological and chemical) cleaning tools needs improvement. Iron bucket and simple scrupper is simply taking up too much time to finish the job.

Pneumatic or electricity powered scruppers and sprayers should not cost much. Should take a look at modern car wash equipment !

PLA army is better equiped than PLAN.

 

[Beast]

The NBC (nuclear biological and chemical) cleaning tools needs improvement. Iron bucket and simple scrupper is simply taking up too much time to finish the job.

Pneumatic or electricity powered scruppers and sprayers should not cost much. Should take a look at modern car wash equipment !

PLA army is better equiped than PLAN.

Those photo are for domestic consumption. Chinese ordinary folks know nuts about electric powered scrapers.

 

[cnleio]

China 4th new type052D DDG join PLAN

PLAN DDG-175 "YinChuan"

 

[cnleio]

PLAN South Sea Fleet 3rd and 4th type052D DDGs

 

[lcloo]

In an article concerning a asst. director of a naval instiitution, it gave info on 052D destroyer as:-

There are now 9 ships in service and being built
The cost is estimated at RMB 3.5 billion each
Standard displacement is 6,300 tonnes, full load displacement is 8,500 tonnes
Maximum 30 knots
At 20 knots speed, max distance is 8,500 nautical miles.


175银川号导弹驱逐舰简介
我国052D型导弹驱逐舰4号舰。2014年3月28日于上海江南造船厂下水，目前服役于中国海军南海舰队
052D型导弹驱逐舰是我国最新型导弹驱逐舰，是在052C型导弹驱逐舰基础上发展的一种新型多用途导弹驱逐舰，首舰昆明号于2012年9月15日下水。目前该型舰服役及在建共有9艘。价约35亿人民币，舰长165米，宽19米，吃水6.5米，标准排水量6300 吨，满载排水量8500 吨，最大航速30节，续航力为20节时8500海里。

 

[cnleio]

In an article concerning a asst. director of a naval instiitution, it gave info on 052D destroyer as:-

There are now 9 ships in service and being built
The cost is estimated at RMB 3.5 billion each
Standard displacement is 6,300 tonnes, full load displacement is 8,500 tonnes
Maximum 30 knots
At 20 knots speed, max distance is 8,500 nautical miles.


175银川号导弹驱逐舰简介
我国052D型导弹驱逐舰4号舰。2014年3月28日于上海江南造船厂下水，目前服役于中国海军南海舰队
052D型导弹驱逐舰是我国最新型导弹驱逐舰，是在052C型导弹驱逐舰基础上发展的一种新型多用途导弹驱逐舰，首舰昆明号于2012年9月15日下水。目前该型舰服役及在建共有9艘。价约35亿人民币，舰长165米，宽19米，吃水6.5米，标准排水量6300 吨，满载排水量8500 吨，最大航速30节，续航力为20节时8500海里。

Each type052D cost about 0.6 billion USD ... much cheaper than U.S Navy Aegis DDG

 

[Penguin]

Each type052D cost about 0.6 billion USD ... much cheaper than U.S Navy Aegis DDG

Are you sure that isn't just ship cost, excl. sensors and weapons? And if it that number were ship cost inclusive 'government furnished equipment', would you have identical capabilities?

In 1988, the total cost of the first AB ship was put at US$1.1 billion, the other US$778 million being for the ship's weapons systems. [i.e. $1.878 billion] The U.S. Navy began a modernization program for the Arleigh Burke class. The modernization program is designed to provide a comprehensive mid-life upgrade to ensure that the class remains effective. Reduced manning, increased mission effectiveness, and a reduced total cost including construction, maintenance, and operation are the goals of the modernization program. Shipbuilding contracts for DDG-113 to DDG-115 were awarded in mid-2011 for US$679.6m–$783.6m; these do not include government-furnished equipment such as weapons and sensors which will take the average cost of the FY2011/12 ships to US$1,842.7m per vessel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke-class_destroyer
After some 30 years, and 62 hulls, the AB's total unit cost today is less than it was in 1988. Ship cost today is 33% less that in 1988 (and quite close to the supposed cost of 052D, hence the question above). Costs of 'government furnished equipment' is up 43%.

Data on ship cost varies considerably. Compare e.g. http://www.bga-aeroweb.com/Defense/DDG-51-AEGIS-Destroyer.html

This is an interesting read in as far as understanding what aspects of procurement affects ship cost http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/ddg-51.htm