Two nation theory: In Urdu explained eloquently

[war&peace]

Two nation theory explained eloquently by Saqib Raza. It is in Urdu and mainly intended for Pakistani members or Urdu speaking community. I may add transcript at some later stage.

@GreenFalcon @Doordie @Noore @Indus Falcon @MastanKhan @Zarvan @TMA

 

[Noore]

Two nation theory very much alive and repeat where ever Muslims and non-Muslims lives, Our Islamic culture could not be fused with any other culture we Muslims are one nation and will reunite where ever our borders are closed.
Al Hukam Allah Al Mulk Allah.

 

[war&peace]

Two nation theory very much alive and repeat where ever Muslims and non-Muslims lives, Our Islamic culture could not be fused with any other culture we Muslims are one nation and will reunite where ever our borders are closed.
Al Hukam Allah Al Mulk Allah.

لکم دینکم ولی دین

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

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Only regret is we are our own enemy because we know our enemies and yet give a blind eye

 

[Razia Sultana]

If deen is so uniting then why do we have so many muslim nations, so many arab muslim nations? Arabs follow Islam, racially one, Nazaria is one, language is one, food habits and dress are same but still they are not one nation.
why we could not save Bangladesh from disintegrating from a muslim nation? The logic given for disintegration is that Bengalis were culturally different, they spoke different language, their food habits were different, racially they were darker and inferior and so the deen could not hold them together. The Nazaria did not work here.

 

[Noore]

If deen is so uniting then why do we have so many muslim nations, so many arab muslim nations? Arabs follow Islam, racially one, Nazaria is one, language is one, food habits and dress are same but still they are not one nation.

Logistically not possible

why we could not save Bangladesh from disintegrating from a muslim nation?

Because of Indian terrorism and support for power hungry politician.

The logic given for disintegration is that Bengalis were culturally different, they spoke different language, their food habits were different, racially they were darker and inferior and so the deen could not hold them together. The Nazaria did not work here.

Many things are different but rules are same, The eat different dishes but all hilal any other Muslim can eat.

Two nation theory proved correct again when Akhlaq Wa killed over beef issue.

 

[haviZsultan]

If deen is so uniting then why do we have so many muslim nations, so many arab muslim nations? Arabs follow Islam, racially one, Nazaria is one, language is one, food habits and dress are same but still they are not one nation.
why we could not save Bangladesh from disintegrating from a muslim nation? The logic given for disintegration is that Bengalis were culturally different, they spoke different language, their food habits were different, racially they were darker and inferior and so the deen could not hold them together. The Nazaria did not work here.

Though I agree there are chinks in this theory the ideal setup or situation would be all muslims under one muslim territory under the caliph. A figure is supposed to come and restore the caliphate which has been dormant for 100 years. The muslims in Indian occupied parts should and after seeing its success will confirm to this caliphate as is believed. The caliphate may start from Pakistan though.

Also the Rashidun, Umayad and Abassid caliphates tried or came close to bringing all muslims into one nation. We are bound by our religion to support such a setup and is the reason as a Lucknowi why I support Pakistan.

 

[war&peace]

If deen is so uniting then why do we have so many muslim nations, so many arab muslim nations? Arabs follow Islam, racially one, Nazaria is one, language is one, food habits and dress are same but still they are not one nation.
why we could not save Bangladesh from disintegrating from a muslim nation? The logic given for disintegration is that Bengalis were culturally different, they spoke different language, their food habits were different, racially they were darker and inferior and so the deen could not hold them together. The Nazaria did not work here.

Because the enemies want to divide us and they bring up greedy people on the top who have nothing to do with Islam like Al-e-Saud in KSA and other dynasties elsewhere. If there is only one country, then how will these goons stay in power? so they divide people on nationalistic and ethnic lines.

 

[takeiteasy]

The concept of Ummat is a double edged sword. Look, Now Hindus have started forming Hindu Ummat after the ideology of Ummat is integrated to Hinduism through the work of RSS. RSS have identified Abrahamic religions as their sworn enemies. This is put forward by Savarkar, Golwalkar and other ancient extremists. Now, they are raging with the intend of badla. It's like whatever the dedicated Mu'amins tries, remember it's getting copied to Hinduism so as to fight against Islam. Hindus are becoming militant under RSS rule. The craving for killing infidels in the name of Arabian God is now copied by Hindus and getting implemented against India's minorities including Muslims. Whenever, a Muamin blind in faith, excited in the concept of conquering Hindu, Christian, Atheist lands cheers up, remember - India is marching towards your direction to fight radical Islam under Modi and RSS.

 

[GreenFalcon]

Two nation theory explained eloquently by Saqib Raza. It is in Urdu and mainly intended for Pakistani members or Urdu speaking community. I may add transcript at some later stage.

@GreenFalcon @Doordie @Noore @Indus Falcon @MastanKhan @Zarvan @TMA

“The great majority of us are Muslims. We follow the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him). We are members of the brotherhood of Islam in which all are equal in rights, dignity and self-respect. Consequently, we have a special and a very deep sense of unity. But make no mistake: Pakistan is not a theocracy or anything like it.”- Muhammad Ali Jinnah

 

[war&peace]

The concept of Ummat is a double edged sword. Look, Now Hindus have started forming Hindu Ummat after the ideology of Ummat is integrated to Hinduism through the work of RSS. RSS have identified Abrahamic religions as their sworn enemies. This is put forward by Savarkar, Golwalkar and other ancient extremists. Now, they are raging with the intend of badla. It's like whatever the dedicated Mu'amins tries, remember it's getting copied to Hinduism so as to fight against Islam. Hindus are becoming militant under RSS rule. The craving for killing infidels in the name of Arabian God is now copied by Hindus and getting implemented against India's minorities including Muslims. Whenever, a Muamin blind in faith, excited in the concept of conquering Hindu, Christian, Atheist lands cheers up, remember - India is marching towards your direction to fight radical Islam under Modi and RSS.

Main difference between the concept of Muslim Ummah and RSS hindutva is that the former is not against any religion...but it is to provide Muslim people a unified system. RSS cannot even possibly have such a unity because hinduism with its caste is divisive... so are they willing to let go of the caste system..I don't think so while on other hand Islam always talks about unity....One God, one messenger, one book and all Muslims are equal regardless of colour of the skin, language and ethnicity.

 

[dray]

Though I agree there are chinks in this theory the ideal setup or situation would be all muslims under one muslim territory under the caliph. A figure is supposed to come and restore the caliphate which has been dormant for 100 years. The muslims in Indian occupied parts should and after seeing its success will confirm to this caliphate as is believed. The caliphate may start from Pakistan though.

Also the Rashidun, Umayad and Abassid caliphates tried or came close to bringing all muslims into one nation. We are bound by our religion to support such a setup and is the reason as a Lucknowi why I support Pakistan.

That 'ummah theory' is quite like pure-communist theory with one difference, ummah is political and communism in its pure form talks more about demolishing economic classes. Both are unrealistic and reduced to serving interest of a few by exploiting the common folks in various ways. Do remember that Arab Muslims see subcontinent Muslims as inferior, in the subcontinent Pakistani Muslims thought Bangladeshi Muslims are inferior, and so on....

And you support Pakistan because you are a Pakistani, I am tired of your dishonesty to mislead unsuspecting readers.

The concept of Ummat is a double edged sword. Look, Now Hindus have started forming Hindu Ummat after the ideology of Ummat is integrated to Hinduism through the work of RSS. RSS have identified Abrahamic religions as their sworn enemies. This is put forward by Savarkar, Golwalkar and other ancient extremists. Now, they are raging with the intend of badla. It's like whatever the dedicated Mu'amins tries, remember it's getting copied to Hinduism so as to fight against Islam. Hindus are becoming militant under RSS rule. The craving for killing infidels in the name of Arabian God is now copied by Hindus and getting implemented against India's minorities including Muslims. Whenever, a Muamin blind in faith, excited in the concept of conquering Hindu, Christian, Atheist lands cheers up, remember - India is marching towards your direction to fight radical Islam under Modi and RSS.

Hmm....I have previously said it many times that some of the so called 'hindutavadi' groups do copy the idea of their radicalism from Islam, and that's where they are wrong.

Main difference between the concept of Muslim Ummah and RSS hindutva is that the former is not against any religion...but it is to provide Muslim people a unified system. RSS cannot even possibly have such a unity because hinduism with its caste is divisive... so are they willing to let go of the caste system..I don't think so while on other hand Islam always talks about unity....One God, one messenger, one book and all Muslims are equal regardless of colour of the skin, language and ethnicity.

Dear, not intending to insult any religion, but nothing is farthest from the truth when you say that Islam is not against other religions. Rather, there is no other religion that is so fiercely intolerant to others' faith like Islam...as evident from history and present.

 

[Zarvan]

For some of our innocent secular Muslims both in India and Pakistan who basically deny Islam for them I would present few more examples. Why we are different. When Hazrat NUH was asked to build a ship because ALLAH was about to destroy his entire nation Hazrat Nuh biological son refused to accept the religion and remained on kufr so when water came and ship was leaving Hazrat Nuh again begged his son to repent and come to ship but he refused so when ALLAH sank him that too in front of Hazrat Nuh, Hazrat Nuh just cried O ALLAH my son and guess what Answer was given by ALLAH He is not your son !!!! Although he was Hazrat NUH biological son but ALLAH doesn't accept that relation. Only relation which matters is faith.

Now we jump to Battle of Badar. Battle of Badar was not hard on Muslims just because Muslims seriously lacked equipment but because Muslims had to face their blood relatives in that war and when that war ended by than Hazrat Ubaidah bin Jarrah RA had killed his own father. Hazrat Umar RA killed his own Uncle ( Mamo ). One Sahabi killed his brother. And after few years Hazrat Abu Bakar RA son Abdur Rahman RA who was on kafirs side during battle of badr said to Hazrat ABU BAKAR RA that Father I saw you twice during that war but I didn't raised my sword on you. Hazrat Abu Bakar RA replied if for once I had seen you in Badr I would have killed you right on the spot. In Islam brotherhood based on deen is accepted nothing else. Therefore Iqbal supported Pakistan idea but he himself wrote that biggest false GOD of modern times is Nationalism.
@war&peace @Arsalan @RAMPAGE

 

[war&peace]

Dear, not intending to insult any religion, but nothing is farthest from the truth when you say that Islam is not against other religions. Rather, there is no other religion that is so fiercely intolerant to others' faith like Islam...as evident from history and present.

All I can say is that your knowledge about Islam is based on internet and main stream media while if you really want to know about Islam you should read Holy Quran with translation and some authentic books on the life of the Holy Prophet (ﷺ)

 

[dray]

All I can say is that your knowledge about Islam is based on internet and main stream media while if you really want to know about Islam you should read Holy Quran with translation and some authentic books on the life of the Holy Prophet (ﷺ)

What is in book doesn't matter much in real life; what is being practiced matters.