Turkish Tea House

[olcayto]

Dat wil hij daarmee bereiken,maar als we die vlieg links laten liggen rot ie vanzelf op.
Haklisin.

İk geef jouw ook wel gelijk. İk hou ook geen eindeloze discussies met hem.
Alleen als ik iets van propaganda ruik, dan probeer ik dat te ontkrachten met een antwoord, zodat andere gebruikers tenminste beide kanten van de verhaal zien.

Daarna stop ik ook met verder antwoorden, want het is gewoon een terreur geindoctrineerde mafkees.

Ama haklısın abi, ne olduysa bu @Sinan'dan oldu

 

[T-123456]

İk geef jouw ook wel gelijk. İk hou ook geen eindeloze discussies met hem.
Alleen als ik iets van propaganda ruik, dan probeer ik dat te ontkrachten met een antwoord, zodat andere gebruikers tenminste beide kanten van de verhaal zien.

Daarna stop ik ook met verder antwoorden, want het is gewoon een terreur geindoctrineerde mafkees.

Ama haklısın abi, ne olduysa bu @Sinan'dan oldu

Onuda anlamak lazim,adamin fasa fiso cevaplarina dayanamiyo

 

[N.Ozkan]

Hep problem, hep problem icimiz daraldi valla.. Birazda hal hatir soralim Umarim hepinizin yaz tatili gönlunuzce gecmistir. Isvecte bu hafta okullar aciliyor o yuzden pek aktif olamayabilirim ama arasira mutlaka gelip burda bir iki yorum atmaya calisirim. Bu forumda nice seviyeli, bilgili insanlar oldugunu gördukce Turk milleti olarak ileri attigimiz adimlari göruyorum, gördukcede su okulum bi bitsede vatana dönup bizde bir kösesinden tutsak diyoruz. Kimse sanmasin ki burdaki Turkler kendiligini kayip felan ediyor, en saglam yabanci kitlesi suphesiz Turklerdir Isvecte. Okulda ögretmenim bana bir arastirma sonucu göstermisti, en zor asimile olan milletler diye.. Listede acaba en zor asimile olan millet hangisiydi? Tabii ki biz Turkler, tami tamina 7 generasyon suruyormus 100% asimile olmamiz. Ne diyeyim, hocanin karsisinda gögsumu kabarta kabarta, "klart, vi Turkar glömmer inte vårt förflutna" demistim. <- (tercumesi; Tabii, biz Turkler gecmisimizi unutmayiz.) Kalbini bilmeden kirdigim abilerim, kardeslerim ve ablalarim olmussa en icten dileklerimle özur diliyorum. Biraz ayrilik mektubu gibi oldu ama artik kusuruma bakmayin Ayrilmiyorum haa

 

[Baykuş]

Hep problem, hep problem icimiz daraldi valla.. Birazda hal hatir soralim Umarim hepinizin yaz tatili gönlunuzce gecmistir. Isvecte bu hafta okullar aciliyor o yuzden pek aktif olamayabilirim ama arasira mutlaka gelip burda bir iki yorum atmaya calisirim. Bu forumda nice seviyeli, bilgili insanlar oldugunu gördukce Turk milleti olarak ileri attigimiz adimlari göruyorum, gördukcede su okulum bi bitsede vatana dönup bizde bir kösesinden tutsak diyoruz. Kimse sanmasin ki burdaki Turkler kendiligini kayip felan ediyor, en saglam yabanci kitlesi suphesiz Turklerdir Isvecte. Okulda ögretmenim bana bir arastirma sonucu göstermisti, en zor asimile olan milletler diye.. Listede acaba en zor asimile olan millet hangisiydi? Tabii ki biz Turkler, tami tamina 7 generasyon suruyormus 100% asimile olmamiz. Ne diyeyim, hocanin karsisinda gögsumu kabarta kabarta, "klart, vi Turkar glömmer inte vårt förflutna" demistim. <- (tercumesi; Tabii, biz Turkler gecmisimizi unutmayiz.) Kalbini bilmeden kirdigim abilerim, kardeslerim ve ablalarim olmussa en icten dileklerimle özur diliyorum. Biraz ayrilik mektubu gibi oldu ama artik kusuruma bakmayin Ayrilmiyorum haa

Ne okuyorsun yurtta&#351;?
Umar&#305;m buradaki (&#304;sveç'te) en iyi entegre olan millet Süryanilerdir (Suriyeli de&#287;il). Göteborg'yu bilmiyorum ama &#351;üphesiz ki Stockholm'daki Türk vatanda&#351;lar&#305;n (dikkat edin; "Türkler" demiyorum) büyük bir k&#305;sm&#305; ya restoranc&#305; ya taksici veya fabrikac&#305; ve Türk gençlerin ço&#287;unda akl&#305;ndaki ya kolay bir k&#305;z bulmak ya da en basit yoldan bir i&#351; bulmakt&#305;r. Ama herhalde gurbetçi gençlerin ço&#287;u böyledir

 

[Oublious]

gotubok....

su ismi degistrsinler...

 

[olcayto]

Ne okuyorsun yurtta&#351;?
Umar&#305;m buradaki (&#304;sveç'te) en iyi entegre olan millet Süryanilerdir (Suriyeli de&#287;il). Göteborg'yu bilmiyorum ama &#351;üphesiz ki Stockholm'daki Türk vatanda&#351;lar&#305;n (dikkat edin; "Türkler" demiyorum) büyük bir k&#305;sm&#305; ya restoranc&#305; ya taksici veya fabrikac&#305; ve Türk gençlerin ço&#287;unda akl&#305;ndaki ya kolay bir k&#305;z bulmak ya da en basit yoldan bir i&#351; bulmakt&#305;r. Ama herhalde gurbetçi gençlerin ço&#287;u böyledir

Hmm,

Süryani'nin &#304;sveç'te i&#351;i var diye merak ettim. Bakt&#305;m baya bir Süryani bulunuyor &#304;sveç'te.
San&#305;r&#305;m bunlar&#305;n ço&#287;u birinci dünya harbinden kaçanlar. Yüz sene'de o kadar entegre etmeleri normal.

Bizim Türkiye'de, Süryani diye bir&#351;ey kalmad&#305; san&#305;r&#305;m. Kürtler büyük bir bölümün a.... K.... !

 

[Baykuş]

gotubok....

su ismi degistrsinler...

Hahah! Asl&#305;nda "Yöte-bor&#287;" diye söylenir ama haklisin.

Hmm,

Süryani'nin &#304;sveç'te i&#351;i var diye merak ettim. Bakt&#305;m baya bir Süryani bulunuyor &#304;sveç'te.
San&#305;r&#305;m bunlar&#305;n ço&#287;u birinci dünya harbinden kaçanlar. Yüz sene'de o kadar entegre etmeleri normal.

Bizim Türkiye'de, Süryani diye bir&#351;ey kalmad&#305; san&#305;r&#305;m. Kürtler büyük bir bölümün a.... K.... !

Do&#287;rusun karde&#351;, bunlar&#305;n Türkiye'den gelen k&#305;sm&#305; genellikle Mardin yak&#305;nlar&#305;ndan gelme ve h&#305;rslar&#305; bölgedeki Kürtlere kars&#305; oluyor. Çok dilli olmalar&#305; nadir de&#287;il (Türkçe'yi, Kürtçe'yi, Arapça'yi ve Süryanice'yi konu&#351;urlar) ve kar&#351;&#305;la&#351;t&#305;&#287;&#305;m&#305;n ço&#287;u çal&#305;&#351;kan ç&#305;k&#305;yor.

Note; I'll write in English from here on, brothers. My keyboard layout is Swedish, the system language is English thus typing special Turkish characters becomes very time consuming.

 

[olcayto]

Hahah! Asl&#305;nda "Yöte-bor&#287;" diye söylenir ama haklisin.



Do&#287;rusun karde&#351;, bunlar&#305;n Türkiye'den gelen k&#305;sm&#305; genellikle Mardin yak&#305;nlar&#305;ndan gelme ve h&#305;rslar&#305; bölgedeki Kürtlere kars&#305; oluyor. Çok dilli olmalar&#305; nadir de&#287;il (Türkçe'yi, Kürtçe'yi, Arapça'yi ve Süryanice'yi konu&#351;urlar) ve kar&#351;&#305;la&#351;t&#305;&#287;&#305;m&#305;n ço&#287;u çal&#305;&#351;kan ç&#305;k&#305;yor.

Note; I'll write in English from here on, brothers. My keyboard layout is Swedish, the system language is English thus typing special Turkish characters becomes very time consuming.

Peki ya bunlar&#305;n genel anlamda, Ermeni'ler gibi Türk'lere kar&#351;&#305; a&#351;&#305;r&#305; bir kinleri var m&#305;.
&#304;&#351;in aç&#305;&#287;&#305; sormak istedi&#287;im, hiç soyk&#305;r&#305;mla alakal&#305; muhabettin oldu mu bu &#351;ah&#305;slarla?

 

[Baykuş]

Peki ya bunlar&#305;n genel anlamda, Ermeni'ler gibi Türk'lere kar&#351;&#305; a&#351;&#305;r&#305; bir kinleri var m&#305;.
&#304;&#351;in aç&#305;&#287;&#305; sormak istedi&#287;im, hiç soyk&#305;r&#305;mla alakal&#305; muhabettin oldu mu bu &#351;ah&#305;slarla?

Armenians are generally speaking more turcophobic and anti-Turkish. They unilaterally accuse Turks of whatever they have been raised to believe and are not very pleasant trying to discuss with. Meanwhile, the Assyrians and Arameans I've spoken to are more open-minded and understanding regarding the circumstances and important factors during the time/events and aren't blinded by hatred. However, while Armenians usually are seeking revenge on us Turks or simply just hate us, the Assyrians and Arameans are more angry at the Kurds who they accuse of having plundered and robbed them during the war. They seem more comfortable with the idea of settling their issue with us and returning to their homes as peaceful citizens while Armenians are more eager to actually take back what they believe is theirs. Note though that this is my own observations based on the limited amount of people belonging to these ethic groups that I've had the chance to speak to. As always, every group has its nuts.

 

[atatwolf]

Armenians are generally speaking more turcophobic and anti-Turkish. They unilaterally accuse Turks of whatever they have been raised to believe and are not very pleasant trying to discuss with. Meanwhile, the Assyrians and Arameans I've spoken to are more open-minded and understanding regarding the circumstances and important factors during the time/events and aren't blinded by hatred. However, while Armenians usually are seeking revenge on us Turks or simply just hate us, the Assyrians and Arameans are more angry at the Kurds who they accuse of having plundered and robbed them during the war. They seem more comfortable with the idea of settling their issue with us and returning to their homes as peaceful citizens while Armenians are more eager to actually take back what they believe is theirs. Note though that this is my own observations based on the limited amount of people belonging to these ethic groups that I've had the chance to speak to. As always, every group has its nuts.

No, that is not just you, I had Armenian class mate last year and he was exactly like that. Intially I told him, we shouldn't talk about politics but he was very rude and forced me to talk about politics. He basically wants all of east-Turkey and whole of Azerbaijan and Istanbul, Izmir and Cyprus for Greeks. I just stood and watched him with open mouth.. haha. Then I jokelingly said, if we give back Cyprus to Greeks,would you give back Karabakh? He didn't agree. I didn't even take him serious because it is wasted energy. When I was thinking about this, I was imagining how Armenians and Greeks would have treat us if we lost independence war. Pretty gruesome thought.

 

[MertKaan]

Peki ya bunlar&#305;n genel anlamda, Ermeni'ler gibi Türk'lere kar&#351;&#305; a&#351;&#305;r&#305; bir kinleri var m&#305;.
&#304;&#351;in aç&#305;&#287;&#305; sormak istedi&#287;im, hiç soyk&#305;r&#305;mla alakal&#305; muhabettin oldu mu bu &#351;ah&#305;slarla?

Süryani K yeterlidir san&#305;r&#305;m

 

[Neptune]

Welcome mate, much happened in your absence.

Take a look at this thread. http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey-defence/271133-turkey-suspends-selling-anka-egypt-punishment.html

i saw that, it should stay closed. But we should call our members not to reply to trolls. I'm just here because I found wi-fi . But if it happens again, just mention Awesome, Zakii or Aeronaut or Webby. I'll be back to home...see you jefe

 

[olcayto]

Süryani K yeterlidir san&#305;r&#305;m

Soyk&#305;r&#305;m iddialar&#305;n&#305; biliyorum, lâkin &#351;u farktan dolay&#305; merak ediyorum.

Ermeniler Türk'lerin onlara soyk&#305;r&#305;m&#305; yapt&#305;&#287;&#305; kanaatinde.
Oysa ki Süryaniler ve Aramiler, özellikle Kürt'lere kar&#351;&#305; bir kin tutuyor.

 

[Keyxusraw]

Assyrians and Arameans generally have nothing against Kurds. What are you talking about? The first Assyrian MP in Turkey joined the mostly Kurdish BDP. He is from Sirnak himself. A place where there are quite a lot Assyrian and Aramean tribes left. If you go to Rojava ( Syrian Kurdistan) you will find that Assyrians, Armenians and Kurds live side by side. Recently, the leaders of Assyrians and Arameans in Rojava praised the PYD there for its project of gathering all ethnic groups in Rojava under one banner.

As for Assyrians in KRG, that is another question. But if we talk about Assyrians and Arameans in North ( Turkey) and West ( Syria) Kurdistan, there has never been ethnic tensions in newer times.

Another funny thing is that Erol Doar ( first Christian Assyrian/Aramean MP in Turkey) was elected in the mostly Kurdish Mardin city. In Mardin there are close to none Assyrians. Yet he was elected by the Kurdish people living there.

 

[Doritos11]

In general Assyrians dislike Kurds and Turks.