Turkish President Arrives in Pakistan

[MadDog]

M.Ali Jinnah wanted a secular republic without naming the religion.
The name ''Islamic'' came in 1955 i believe,long after Jinnah.

I guess it was 1973 constitution when it was made Islamic Republic , before that there were open ads of liquors on billboards , casinos and wine shops. But I agree with you, Jinnah wanted a liberal country with Islamic social justice principles. Hope to see some defence deals being signed on Erdogan's trip. Long live Turkey-Pak friendship.

Neptune has explained a bit but left some areas un-touched.

Mate, for nationalist Turks like me, Neptune and so many others, our ultimate dream is to establish Turan. Great Turkic state or Turkic States Union (Turkey, Azerbaijan, TRNC, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan). We know it's a very very distant dream but we would like to see some effort from the government.

Brother you can always establish regional cooperative institutions with Turkic countries like CIS or EU.

 

[NomanAli89]

Hey I was kidding,Go ahead and enjoy your brotherly love.
I'm against the Armenian Genocide...That's all
half of the world considers Pakistan a banana republic because of its ignorant citizens.
I ended this here and deleted previous post...Turks should accept and apologize the Armenian genocide.
Now Off with you all and your celebrations,I stand with humanity not nationalism.

How funny a so called Pakistani is concerned about Armenian's so called genocide .... As a Pakistani you should be more concerned about Genocide of Kashmiris by India and Genocide of Sunnis in Iran .... Try to google few more terms because no one in Pakistan gives a middle finger to Armenia and its fake holocaust Come up with something good enough to give you a better cover

 

[MadDog]

Lahore Decorated with Red and Green Light for the welcome of Turkish President

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We Lahorities hold Turkey and Erdogan close to our hearts. Turk investment has done wonders in Lahore interms of transport, communication, waste management, security (training of Dolphin Security Force) and numerous other areas.

How funny a so called Pakistani is concerned about Armenian's so called genocide .... As a Pakistani you should be more concerned about Genocide of Kashmiris by India and Genocide of Sunnis in Iran .... Try to google few more terms because no one in Pakistan gives a middle finger to Armenia and its fake holocaust Come up with something better enough to give you a good cover

I caught one false flag Pakistani profile, I went into his previous posts ,saw him abusing Pak Army, China and Turky. I guess it is the same dude , probably an Indian uses Pakistani flags, just report him and ignore him. Pakistan doesn't even recognize Armenia diplomatically, and we have no interest in doing so.

 

[OguzSenturk]

I'm against the Armenian Genocide

There is only Turkish Genocide that commited by Racist Armenians in 1915, killed 500.000 civilian Turks in Erzurum-Ağrı region to Armenianize region (Just like they did in Azerbaijan with Khojali Genocide) for their racist dream. You cannot show real victims as "killers", behave yourself and become a Human.

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

There is only Turkish Genocide that commited by Racist Armenians in 1915, killed 500.000 civilian Turks in Erzurum-Ağrı region to Armenianize region (Just like they did in Azerbaijan with Khojali Genocide) for their racist dream. You cannot show real victims as "killers", behave yourself and become a Human.

he is may be an Indian pretending to be a Pakistani.

 

[spinghar renacido]

My village has more economic output than all Afghanistan combined .

Khan that was a very failed attempt to giggle. Further I wouldn't derail the thread

 

[Salman Janbaaz]

Turkey is a very good friend of Pakistan. We welcome to our homeland. Pakistan and Turkey are two powers of Islamic world. Together they will protect the threats to Islamic community

 

[BaybarsHan]

cehape'li yavsaklar vidi vidi etmeyi birakin s..tirin gidin bi.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

I appreciate your concern bro and thank you for reporting that filth, Actually his message is still visible in quotes of other members, Let my message be there because there are many threads where these kind of venomous comments are hurting our Arab and Turkish brothers My quotes (if get away from microscope of sectarian mods) only help them to understand from where those haters are coming from.
If you still want me to delete my comment I will do that without any more arguments .....

Thanks, bro....I also know that, other than Indians, who gets hurt from our close relations with Turks and Arabs....These Iranian fan boys should shut their mouths...These buffoons should ask Iran to open up for Pakistan and Turkey so that we can get connect through RCD rather than bashing Pakistan, Turkey or KSA....

Pakistanis are not responsible if Iranians don't know how to walk with others in a win win scenario....Pakistanis will move ahead and play her role in world politics, Middle East whether someone likes it or not...

Leave that comment, U just replied the troll in understandable language...No Pakistani will talk like that the way he did

 

[UsmanKhan777]

Turkey is a brotherly country and it is really good seeing the hospitality for Turkish Pm. However, Pmln has converted it into political point scoring campaign. Such things should be above politics. And instead of taking the Turkish Pm to Lahore. They should have given him dinner or lunch in Islamabad.

 

[litman]

Yes...He wants but not of a Mullah's version but a Islamic republic on standards of Muhammad Ali Jinnah...

sorry dear but since when islam was standardized by muhammad ali jinnah. the standards were laid down in Quran, hadiths and the khilafat e rashida. no one else has any authority to set new standards.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

sorry dear but since when islam was standardized by muhammad ali jinnah. the standards were laid down in Quran, hadiths and the khilafat e rashida. no one else has any authority to set new standards.

Yes...You're right. But don't you think that these mullahs can't even sort out which system (fiqh) will be applicable in Pakistan..Islam is easy religion and not a hard one...Islam accepts local culture if it didn't violate major teachings of Islam...In short , U can't force people as Islam forbids it but these Mullah wanted to shove their teachings down people throat...

I respect genuine Ulemas i.e Tariq Jamil Saheb etc . I also have beard. But I hate the idea of mullah government because if that happens people will face enormous difficulty in their lives and our country will turn into Iran or KSA...

I respect your opinion and I m not disagreeing with it too...

Allah knows better...

 

[litman]

I also don't know much in depth but one thing I m damn sure about and I know that Imran Khan and his followers are not Islamists...We have some religious parties but of small magnitude....religious people are scattered around in different parties...The mainstream environment of Pakistan is also can be called open and religious at same time but no one bothers or impose his will on others...

I remember, at one time when Imran was being asked about women rights or mullah's hatred towards women and their way of dressing......He said : PTI won't interfere in women clothes.... everyone laughed at this statement...

Look at our mainstream media channels...You'll find us Islamist by name otherwise we are quite opposite...So, it doesn't really matter if by name we are Islamic republic, we never were hardcore Muslims, we still are not...Indians admit that too

it is the mis interpretation of religion that is the root cause of our problems. not islam. dont use the word "islamists" in a derogative way. don't fall pray to the propaganda done in media. we have very very very small number of true muslims and that is why we are being humiliated. look at our main stream media.....? bunch of hypocrites. wear hijab and topi in ramzan and wear vulgar dress rest of the year. i think this is not moderation. this is making fun of instructions of Allah and is called hypocrisy. we are following the foot steps of bani israel and we have and we will face the music. either stop reciting kalima or stop worshiping USA and the world. you said we never were hardcore muslims . infact we never have been muslims. we are only so called muslims who have absolutely no faith in our hearts and do no follow even a single principle of islam. read this research about the countries following islamic principles http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...d-in-Islamic-values-as-Muslim-states-lag.html
your beloved pak and turkey stand no where.
keep on pleasing your western gods and godesses and be ready for having the fate of bani israel.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

it is the mis interpretation of religion that is the root cause of our problems. not islam. dont use the word "islamists" in a derogative way. don't fall pray to the propaganda done in media. we have very very very small number of true muslims and that is why we are being humiliated. look at our main stream media.....? bunch of hypocrites. wear hijab and topi in ramzan and wear vulgar dress rest of the year. i think this is not moderation. this is making fun of instructions of Allah and is called hypocrisy. we are following the foot steps of bani israel and we have and we will face the music. either stop reciting kalima or stop worshiping USA and the world. you said we never were hardcore muslims . infact we never have been muslims. we are only so called muslims who have absolutely no faith in our hearts and do no follow even a single principle of islam. read this research about the countries following islamic principles http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...d-in-Islamic-values-as-Muslim-states-lag.html
your beloved pak and turkey stand no where.
keep on pleasing your western gods and godesses and be ready for having the fate of bani israel.

I agree...But I m not saying we should copy western culture...All I know is that we should work for our country and its prosperity...

Muslims , right now, need to set their house/countries in order, they should establish peace in their countries first rather than fighting over who has put his shalwar up from the ankle and who has not...Priorities...

 

[litman]

Yes...You're right. But don't you think that these mullahs can't even sort out which system (fiqh) will be applicable in Pakistan..Islam is easy religion and not a hard one...Islam accepts local culture if it didn't violate major teachings of Islam...In short , U can't force people as Islam forbids it but these Mullah wanted to shove their teachings down people throat...

I respect genuine Ulemas i.e Tariq Jamil Saheb etc . I also have beard. But I hate the idea of mullah government because if that happens people will face enormous difficulty in their lives and our country will turn into Iran or KSA...

I respect your opinion and I m not disagreeing with it too...

Allah knows better...

why you see islam by the actions of mullahs? why dont you look at the sunnah of the Prophet? why dont you make and effort to be like him? why you are so much worried about the western propaganda against islam? don't you read Quran? it is said about munifiqeen "kia ham iss tarah iman lay ain jis tarah baywaqoof iman lay ain hain" . at another place it is said" ya log kabhi bhi tum say khush na hon gay jab tak tumhain apnay deen pay phair na lain".
as far as mullah is concerned it was foretold to us that a time will come when the worst people under the sky will be the scholars of islam. fitnah in main say he niklay ga or in main he ghuss jay ga"
dont what does it mean? first it diesnt mean all scholars. second it means all of us have to make effort for understanding the true islam rather then blaming islam. we are trying to please the worldly gods by showing "soft image "of pak which was called as "kanjar khana" few decades back. the need of the hour is to make genuine effort in understanding islam, putting it in action, feeling pride in calling ourselves as muslims and fighting till last breath against any aggressor for the defence of islam.