Turkish Politics & Internal Affairs

[DJ_Viper]

No! That is not all. Democracy means much more than freedom of choice.

Whatever it means, the People in Turkey are getting it. And if the militaries of the world don't respect majority of people's decision, well people know how to get them soldiers out of the Tanks, unless you've not seen those images and videos on live tv. So people define what democracy is. No effing soldier with weapons and tank can.

That is definitely true of our country, I'm unsure how much that applies in Turkey, their cultural view of their military is different.

Democratic rule means the same. And who gives a shiit about the "military culture"?? Its the people's right to run a country. If you are not watching tv, you should and see how the "people" have "changed" that culture overnight from within the military. I've seen footage of soldiers getting pulled out of their tanks, hundreds of them going to jails with their hands up in the air and the police putting them on gunpoint along with people, hundreds of soldiers getting pulled out of tanks by the people and those guys begging for their lives. How does that feel for a cultural change?

Democracy is a human and people's right. And it should be respected. A military is always a subordinate institution to the civilian elected leaders, no matter what the country is. And at some point, if the uniforms don't respect that line, well, the people "force" them to respect it. I can guarantee you, this will never happen again in Turkey. No soldiers want to beat up to death by people and go to jail for treason after serving their country and doing a coup towards the end of their career. The world is filled with examples of these people. Watch tv to see the most reason example from Turkey of how democracy works

 

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Long live Democracy ,I hope Pakistanis Care about their own country same way as Turks .
But I doubt Pakistanis will stand infront of tanks when a Military dictatorship comes to power.
The disastrous times Pakistan went through in Dictatorships is a lesson for everyone to learn.
Political stability was non-existent since 1947 is the reason why Pakistan today is suffering from Politicians like Nawaz sharif and zardari as Industrialists and businessmen and imran khan doing politics and a Crying hoarse.
Had we been a country on the Path of democracy and political stability like India today we could've been well respected in the world.
Salute to the Turkish People

 

[xenon54 out]

@Neptune You need to understand one thing. The kind of system Atatürk brought was bound to fail sooner or later. A Muslim country where you ban Hijab and Beard and Azan will face public anger sooner or later and secular Governments will be over thrown. As for Turkey well Erodgan in his first 8 years focused on development which resulted in massive improvement in lives of majority of Turkish People that's majority of people are with Erodgan now and finally in his time women who want to wear Hijab can wear it and other religious freedoms also coming. So from now if some one tries to reimpose the Atatürk Secularism than that would only lead to civil war and chaos in Turkey because days of Atatürk secularism are over. @Hakan

Turkey will always stay secular, Turks embraced secularism, it doesnt mean you have to abandon your faith but ensuring the freemdom of all different regions, look at the surves made regarding secularism in Turkey and you will see how wrong your assumptions are.

 

[Rusty]

Kemalism is a made up word,there is no such thing.
We were a secular democracy,that has changed forever now.
They used democracy to fool the people and can do whatever they wish now,game over.

At least they used democracy instead of guns and thuggery like the Kemalists always use.
Democracy means the will of the people, not the will of a small elite who want to destroy their cultural identity in favor of aping a fake western one. (even the Europeans laugh when you try to copy cat them)

 

[Djinn]

 

[T-123456]

One of my friend from the ONI (office of Naval Intelligence) told me this morning that this coup may have been a false flag ops initiated by Erdogan himself (Or at least the High Hierarchy from his party)

Your friend is a very intelligent person.

 

[Djinn]

 

[Rusty]

Probably you don't know about persecution of Armenians & Armenian Genocide ...

The ottoman empire was a lot more multicultural than "Secular India"
Every week another minority group is targeted and even killed.

 

[T-123456]

the will of the people

Yes the will of all people and not just the 51%,maybe you should do some study on democracy?

 

[Rusty]

Yes the will of all people and not just the 51%,maybe you should do some study about democracy?

or you know... 5% of the "western elites"

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

Still a lot damage has been done... a lot people lost their lives in one night and a lot damage has been done to property, destabilised the country.

I don't know to write positive comments or negative you tell me dear

 

[flamer84]

Turkey will always stay secular, Turks embraced secularism, it doesnt mean you have to abandon your faith but ensuring the freemdom of all different regions, look at the surves made regarding secularism in Turkey and you will see how wrong your assumptions are.

Wrong.....you're heading towards islamization now.He's purging every opponent as we speak.

 

[scherz]

- Acceptance of 3 million Syrians for citizenship

What is his plan to give the refugees citizenship?

 

[HAIDER]

Erdogan Calls On U.S. to Arrest or Extradite Fethullah Gulen


President Recep Tayyip Erdogan called on the United States to arrest or extradite Fethullah Gulen, a political rival and Muslim cleric living in self-exile in Pennsylvania.

Mr. Erdogan has accused Mr. Gulen of being behind the coup attempt, a charge Mr. Gulen denies.

“I call on the United States and President Barack Obama,” Mr. Erdogan said, addressing hundreds of supporters in Istanbul late Saturday.

“Dear Mr. President: I told you this before. Either arrest Fethullah Gulen or return him to Turkey. You didn’t listen. I call on you again, after there was a coup attempt. Extradite this man in Pennsylvania to Turkey. If we are strategic partners or model partners, do what is necessary.”

Mr. Erdogan’s Turkey has been a reliable American ally and partner in the fight against the Islamic State. On Saturday, President Obama reiterated the United States’s “unwavering support for the democratically elected, civilian government of Turkey,” according to a statement. Secretary of State John Kerry said the United States would be willing to listen to any Turkish inquiries about Mr. Gulen.

In an interview on Saturday from Saylorsburg, Pa. that a Times reporter streamed on Facebook Live, Mr. Gulen again said he was not involved in the coup, but did not know whether his followers were.

“I don’t even know who my followers are,” he said through an interpreter. “Since I don’t know these individuals, I cannot speak to the potential involvement in the attempt.”

http://www.nytimes.com/live/turkey-...n-u-s-to-arrest-or-extradite-fethullah-gulen/

 

[T-123456]

Probably you don't know about persecution of Armenians & Armenian Genocide ...

And you are probably dumber then dumb.