Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[Bismarck]

Really?

Really.

Now, they question is, will Turkey ignore U.S warning.

 

[Glass]

really

https://twitter.com/x/status/1158662768553275393

 

[Exxxe]

Erdogan personally promised the operation

Honestly Turkey has to just attack and see what the US does that is the only option left

Considering what has been happening the operation is definitely within the nest week or two

Some american news sites are already talking about how Congressional authorities block US forces from engaging any turkish troops if they enter so it is obvious they see it coming no matter what

 

[NickGr]

It was the non Muslims that destroyed the empire in the long run.

We dont owe you anything my dear balkaner.

Turks are built to rule.

It was the non muslims that contributed to the initial rise and sustainment of the ottoman empire and you haven't stated a point to the revenue part i mentioned, it was the non muslim populations that contributed the most and muslims, who were considered first class citizens of the empire, paid a lot less in taxes. It was the christians at first and greeks and even later it was a significant portion of them who were manning the ottoman navy, where did you learn how to sail in the steppes of central asia? It was the christians of the eastern roman empire(greeks, armenians, etc) who were educated enough to take many administrative posts and run your empire, later converting to muslims either because they wanted to ascend the government rankings or by force.

Of course it was also the non muslims later enough that contributed to the loss of your empire, but that was the tip of the iceberg only, the real reasons were other and most of them had to do with you, a muslim medieval ottoman empire that couldn't transform and compete with the other western powers in terms of economy, technology, education, corruption and social reforms, the economic strain to the empire led to a bigger economic burden to the non muslim populations, which along with the trend of the fall of multinational empires and the rise of nationalism led to the revolts that smashed your empire.

That's what smashed the eastern roman empire as well and not the seljuks alone(the tip of the iceberg as we said), economic and military decline, corruption of the bureacracy of Constantinople and the big economic burden on the provinces in order to sustain Constantinople, what do you think, that the seljuks could have stepped in anatolia after only one military defeat(Manzikert), if the native populations of the provinces were pleased and loyal to the death to the idea of the empire?

Take for example the start of the roman empire, the romans lost to Pyrrhus of Epirus 3 times and still kept recruiting and sending armies against him, till he eventually lost, or even more take the defeats and casualties inflicted on them by Hannibal, who crashed their armies numerous times, the local populations believed in the idea of the empire and the glory of Rome and supported it economically, militarily, etc with everything they got.

As a result the romans were a machine willing to learn from their mistakes and win at all costs no matter the casualties recruiting and sending more and more armies till Hannibal was brought down to his knees. The eastern roman empire later almost destroyed by the persian sassanid empire after many defeats rose up with Heraclius and with the local populations supporting the empire and what it meant to them and led to a totalitarian war deep into persian heartland which restored the empire.
I could keep on forever, but i hope you got the point.

Russians pretty much raped, pillaged and destroyed everything on their way throughout history and look at how big they are now. Yeah, sure the local merchants would've perished and the land could've been lifeless for a few decades but new people would fill in and create a new society. We could just simply seize everything in the region which we didn't (turns out BIG mistake) considering how savagely the Balkan nations tried to murder the Turkish populace once the empire had crumbled.

The reason why "Modern" Turks look different is because of the migrations after WW1 and not mixing with local Greeks or Armenians. Millions of migrants had to retreat to Anatolia from Balkans, Caucasus, Crimea, and parts of Eastern Europe. That's why "Modern" Turks look so much different. Besides Anatolian Turks (Oğuz) don't come from the Altay mountain but rather from today's Turkmenistan area and look shockingly similar to them.

Oh c'mon you want to say that the modern turks appearance is a result of the last 100 years only and for about a thousand years(when you stepped close and then in anatolia) till WW1 you were the same in appearance as before?
There were many mixes at first with the close to the seljuks persians and later after the step in anatolia with the native populations of the eastern roman empire, many of whom assimilated converting to islam.
Your whole janissary corps was from children from christian families. The muslim refugees from the balkans just sped up the whole genetical transformation process, they didn't start it however.

 

[Test7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1158813522215755777

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1159097385156583424

I have nothing left to say. This is a joke and nothing else, to fall for the same lies over and over for 2 years now is nothing but a disgrace for this country and its people. Also nobody from the Government should come out and talk about any OP after they realise two years later just like with Manbji that the US has lied and nothing has been done in Syria because after two times no ones is gonna take you serious anymore. Manbjj 2.0 has been achieved thanks to Akar and Erdogan. Americans are laughing their *** off on the plane right now. GG.

You uproot thousands of soldiers move hundreds of armour to your border just to accept the same lies told to you by the same people just like two years ago and to look like a fool and moron in the international world.

Not a single person should take the ypg or syria in their mouth anymore, You all are a joke and made this country one too. By letting the Americans treat this country on the same level as a terror org. you have literally legitimated the terrorists in everybodys eyes. Idiots and Fools. From foreign policy to military procurement, fools and idiots everywhere.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1159099151067557890

In two years when nothing has been done and the ypg size has grown to 150k. "Us No ReAl AlLy, We WiLl Go InSiDe EaSt SyRiA." Fucking morons. Difference will be thanks to Erdogan and his incompetent Defence Minister Called Akar more like the ypg has been legitimated by its biggest enemy, now countries like the UK, France and US will start selling them Manpads, Air Defence Systems and heavy Armor. GG morons.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1159028901588426753

 

[GlobalMillitary96]

All the YPG retards are celebrating on Reddit. Congrats to all my AKP friends.

 

[blackeyes90]

All the YPG retards are celebrating on Reddit. Congrats to all my AKP friends.

Sending refugees to Syria under these conditions only gives legitimacy to YPG. Also this deal was made after Child Murderer Apo saw his lawyers today. Our diplomats should know better lets just wait.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1159114834371330053

 

[Glass]

Not good at all Stupid move by Turkey.

very stupid move in fact.

 

[CAN_TR]

Don't talk, don't threat just PUNCH them in the face.

US is wasting our time with this negotiations, we are fooling ourself the whole world laughs at us, nobody takes us serious anymore that's why Assad and his Militias dare attacking Turkish bases.

 

[Glass]

^thats true normaly there is a saying : "fool me once shame on you fool me twice cant put the blame on you fool me 3 times fck the peace signs .. "

 

[Mucahit]

Can someone remind me what we gained & how the situation improved with the joint-patrols in Manbij? We didn't move one inch and terrorist elements are still controlling the city. Striking a deal with the Americans means Turkey won't have any control whatsoever on this matter.

The OP was supposed to take place on December 2018 but we waited so that US troops would withdraw but almost 9 months later here we are and Americans are still there and they still sent weapons to the YPG.

I really love how these guys have the guts to make fun of Ecevit because of a f*ckin' photo but doesn't have 1/3 of his balls to start an operation no matter the cost just like he did. Thank god people like Erdoğan weren't there in 1974 or else Cyprus would belong to Greece today.

 

[Khagan1923]

Peace process 2.0 . Instead of the pkk they are doing it with the pkk-bound ypg. Wait and see they will soon invite ypg members to Turkey for "peace talks" and "how to help the syrians to come back to syria".

Legitimating the ypg in the international community. And destroying Turkey security. And all for what? For votes of course, we all know it. Erdogan will call for early elections in the coming weeks. Wait and see.


the ypg is celebrating btw. Congrates, you made our forces and the whole country to a joke and reduced us to the levels of a terror org. Congrates Erdogan and Akar.

 

[Agha Sher]

This is truly disappointing. The YPG should be hammered, the US is playing Turkey again.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

If we can relocate just half of the Syrian refugees currently living in Turkey to this zone, it would be the best thing ever. It would turn the entire border region effectively into an Arab-majority region.

This doesn't have to be a bad deal.