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@TheCamelGuy
Does Germany also apply Anti-Iraq political/military agenda? Recently they harshly attacked on Turkey and Azerbaijan in diplomatic/economic/military areas with sanctions, fake reports, propagandas etc. Is this also a thing for Iraq?
 
@TheCamelGuy
Does Germany also apply Anti-Iraq political/military agenda? Recently they harshly attacked on Turkey and Azerbaijan in diplomatic/economic/military areas with sanctions, fake reports, propagandas etc. Is this also a thing for Iraq?

Germany has been the biggest supplier of arms for the KRG (or slightly 2nd largest after the US). The difference is, Germany supplied 0 arms, bullets or anything lethal to Baghdad whilst they gave tens of thousands of arms to the Peshmerga. Even invited Pesh to train in Germany.

They have a clear pro-Kurdistan agenda, their interests is not defeating IS. Germany is doing more for Kurdustan than Israel, they should be banned from operating in the area. What can they do about it, it's not like they're the US with the capability to strike back militarily. I understand the risk that comes with going against the US, but not with Germany.
 
Question regarding the contorl of Idlib. It seems that the people controlling idlib up to the FSA is a third party, mostly arabs/rebels firhgting Assad. Are these groups allied to Turks/FSA, since Turkeys outposts are set up in these areas?
 
Question regarding the contorl of Idlib. It seems that the people controlling idlib up to the FSA is a third party, mostly arabs/rebels firhgting Assad. Are these groups allied to Turks/FSA, since Turkeys outposts are set up in these areas?
They will either ally with us or get to choose who their executioner will be: Turkey/RussiAssad or 'Murica
 
Germany has been the biggest supplier of arms for the KRG (or slightly 2nd largest after the US). The difference is, Germany supplied 0 arms, bullets or anything lethal to Baghdad whilst they gave tens of thousands of arms to the Peshmerga. Even invited Pesh to train in Germany.

They have a clear pro-Kurdistan agenda, their interests is not defeating IS. Germany is doing more for Kurdustan than Israel, they should be banned from operating in the area. What can they do about it, it's not like they're the US with the capability to strike back militarily. I understand the risk that comes with going against the US, but not with Germany.

Our agenda is to support a Kurdish autonomy region and later an independent state. Yes, it sounds unpopular, but this is the stand of many European countries. Its the same like many Arab countries suppprt an independent Palestine state, like we do also.
 
Our agenda is to support a Kurdish autonomy region and later an independent state. Yes, it sounds unpopular, but this is the stand of many European countries. Its the same like many Arab countries suppprt an independent Palestine state, like we do also.
"Unpopular" :D . Man I am respecting you because at least you are direct and not two faced in the aim to be liked by others.
 
Our agenda is to support a Kurdish autonomy region and later an independent state. Yes, it sounds unpopular, but this is the stand of many European countries. Its the same like many Arab countries suppprt an independent Palestine state, like we do also.

Yes, it's not good, we don't need it and standing up to Europe in this regard is not hard as they have no proper reach to strike back on the required scale. The US is the dangerous one, they can be outplayed if countries that neighbor the 'Kurdistan' concept work together. Iraq and Turkey have to work together extensively as they benefit a lot from it. Whilst Iraq needs water, Turkey needs energy/oil, meanwhile both can work on the Kurdish problem which is the KRG for Iraq, and PKK for Turkey.

Kurds are being used by foreign powers to burn the region, they're on Israel's side.
 
Our agenda is to support a Kurdish autonomy region and later an independent state. Yes, it sounds unpopular, but this is the stand of many European countries. Its the same like many Arab countries suppprt an independent Palestine state, like we do also.

And would you like it if we support for example "Bavaria", when they vote for Independence?
We don't want a divided Iraq, and if "Kurdistan" becomes independent, Turkey is the first who close everything for them!
And do you believe a Isolated Country can survive...?
 
And would you like it if we support for example "Bavaria", when they vote for Independence?

Is that important what we like or what we don’t like? Realpolitik has nothing to do with personal sensations.
 
Yes, it's not good, we don't need it and standing up to Europe in this regard is not hard as they have no proper reach to strike back on the required scale. The US is the dangerous one, they can be outplayed if countries that neighbor the 'Kurdistan' concept work together. Iraq and Turkey have to work together extensively as they benefit a lot from it. Whilst Iraq needs water, Turkey needs energy/oil, meanwhile both can work on the Kurdish problem which is the KRG for Iraq, and PKK for Turkey.

Kurds are being used by foreign powers to burn the region, they're on Israel's side.
We do not need Iraqi Gas and Oil.. We stole plenty of it , remember?:lol: In all seriousness though, we have Azerbaijan and Central Asia for that.

Europeans will not want to see their governments involved in disputes that is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. Just imagine the backlash they will get? Creating a nation that is against everyone in the region..maybe except Iran as they are the only ones that support the Kurds. But they are sneaky about it.

In short, Europe will do nothing, they have much bigger problems at home. :enjoy:
 
We do not need Iraqi Gas and Oil.. We stole plenty of it , remember?:lol: In all seriousness though, we have Azerbaijan and Central Asia for that.

Europeans will not want to see their governments involved in disputes that is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. Just imagine the backlash they will get? Creating a nation that is against everyone in the region..maybe except Iran as they are the only ones that support the Kurds. But they are sneaky about it.

In short, Europe will do nothing, they have much bigger problems at home. :enjoy:

Never underestimate the arrogance of Europeans and their governments.
 
We do not need Iraqi Gas and Oil.. We stole plenty of it , remember?:lol: In all seriousness though, we have Azerbaijan and Central Asia for that.

Europeans will not want to see their governments involved in disputes that is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. Just imagine the backlash they will get? Creating a nation that is against everyone in the region..maybe except Iran as they are the only ones that support the Kurds. But they are sneaky about it.

In short, Europe will do nothing, they have much bigger problems at home. :enjoy:

It's not needs, there are always alternatives even for Iraq. It's policy making and possibilities.

Europe doesn't have the reach/power of the US indeed. They're very pro Kurdish, their BS has to be kept at distance.
 
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