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Obama’s White House worked for months on a plan to seize Raqqa. Trump’s team took a brief look and decided not to pull the trigger.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...0e57e57e05d_story.html?utm_term=.66d1ab66965f

It was Obama who armed PKK terrorists with armored vehicles couple days ago. I thought the Turkish pro gov. media was telling bull but the story seems to be correct. Trump was and still is more critical towards YPG than Obama.
 
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Obama’s White House worked for months on a plan to seize Raqqa. Trump’s team took a brief look and decided not to pull the trigger.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...0e57e57e05d_story.html?utm_term=.66d1ab66965f

It was Obama who armed PKK terrorists with armored vehicles couple days ago. I thought the Turkish pro gov. media was telling bull but the story seems to be correct. Trump was and still is more critical towards YPG than Obama.

I believe we could work with trump if erdoğan is willing to sent more troops in the syria !
 
I really wonder, why at this thread nearly noone cares about important achievements and posts a lot of b*llshits? Are you a part of counter operation? There is a big ops over Bzaa all day long and very close to capture but no post about. Really interesting...
 
Situation is explosive and critical. FSA /ES cut M4 connection from Halep to Al Bab.




On this picture you see weak armor of Leo 2 A4 . Especially it has no chanche against top attacks.

Both the loader and commander hatch can be closed, further more the leopard 2A4 has some decent armour. The problem are ATGM, they outrange our tanks and have very powerful armour penetrating warheads.
 
If you have no functioning AC you will open all hatches, that's normal.

The Leo 2 A4 s are not easy repairable as our SABRA's. Decent armor ? Better than modular ERA of M-60T ?
Leo vulnerability is hidropnömatik sistem. If pump is once damaged tank is dead.

M60 A3 replaced with an all electrical drive

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A big issue with the Turkish Leopard 2 tanks is the fact that they are outdated, they are not designed to resist currently available ATGMs and their armor is completely focused on protecting the frontal arc. It is not clear which armor package is fitted to the Turkish Leopard 2A4. While the late production Leopard 2A4 tanks received stronger armor inserts, all older production models were converted to the Leopard 2A4 configuration - without changing the armor composition! In fact even a few of the newly built Leopard 2A4 tanks were built with one of the older armor packages. Between 1979 and 1992 (the time were the Leopard 2 tank was series produced in Germany) three different generations of armor were used. It is not known if these are identical with single armor packages or mutliple different armor packages were used within a "technology generation". The first generation armor was introduced in 1979, while the second generation armor (1988) and third generation armor (1991) were exlusively used on Leopard 2A4 tanks.


Possible hirdopnömatik sistem damage tank abandoned ?

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Ammo blew up


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COMPARISON :

Fully intact SABRA abandoned after active fire extinguishings system,
white powder could be sodium chloride powder

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Operational SABRA after hit in Iraq
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GERMAN myth is dead !
 
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