Vergennes
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2014
- Messages
- 8,576
- Reaction score
- 61
- Country
- Location
**** off
Either agree or disagree with what I said instead of possibly misleading others.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
**** off
Putin is playing double or tripple game and he is the most clever international player , making fool all . Screwing Iran and Turkey at the same time and again embracing them at the same time .
The reality of the Region is also... That if you do not impose yourself you are bound to disappear or be used by others...He does have a point. Everyone is playing a game. Problem is our region is and has always been volatile. And headstrong statesmen have always ended up with too big ambitions. And they end up hurting their own country.
Honouring your opinion I am disagree with you in some points . If you don't have superiority on conventional weapons you can achieve nothing with nukes . Nukes are only for deterrence . If you don't have superior conventional arms or proper delivery systems you can't use them even if you need to use it. Look at the Afghans or Iranians, how they resist Russia and US .Thats why those russian dogs will pay dearly if only the Turks had the tools to make that happen with ballistic missiles and nukes.
The real question is why the Russians let the IAF act with impunity in Syria. @HannibalBarca @500
They don't have much option. Putin won't confront Israel militarily over Iran's presence. There is room in Syria for Israel to neutralise the Iranian entrenchment which is being set up to carry out future attacks on Israel, and room for Russia to operate for Assad. There's a bit of overlap, but enough understanding that both can achieve their goals.
Israel also has the USA on its side.
Turkey used to have the USA on its side before they traded the west/US/Israel for the wonderful allies of Russia, Iran & Qatar
Turkey never had the US on its side, it only realised few years ago. Had turkey realised this truth decades ago may be turkish defence industry might have been much more advanced today because of early adoption
The arab spring changed Erdogans mind about the west and so it did to alot of people. West were showing democracy as way however when time came they were only supporting dictators.Before Erdogan, Turkey was a solid western ally and in talks to join the EU. Even after relations deteriorated a bit, you were still involved in things like the F-35 programme.
Just admit you made the wrong call and part of the reason is the Islamist nature of Erdogan who favour more Muslim Brotherhood approach than western democracy approach.
Now your soldiers are being killed by your best ally
Yes and 2 other localities more to the east.Rebels have reportedly captured Nayrab. @HannibalBarca