Turkish Missile Programs

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Yeah that's why you are trying to buy Eurofighter

because USA blocked sale of 100 F35 to Turkiye
and when Turkiye decided to buy F-35 decades ago , Greece had no Rafale

Turkiye needs new Fighter Jets to replace outdated F-4s

Old Rafale is not stealth platform
S400 and SIPER are enough to turn old Rafale into burned bird
if Greece buys 24 Rafales , Turkiye has already 192 S400 Air Defense Missiles


still dreaming about 24 Rafale which can not even flight over the Aegean , if Turkiye deploy S400 and SIPER in the EGE region


SIPER to create no fly zone over the Islands

S400 to create no fly zone over the Aegean

 

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President ERDOGAN 02.11.2022


Turkiye's domestic missile TAYFUN frightened Greece

We will give the good news of many more such as CENK and GEZGIN Missiles when the time comes.


Roketsan General Manager Murat Ikinci
: “As Roketsan, we have 40 projects apart from the ones we have launched to the public.”

Now watch greek media that how they crying we told the people we have more than this, we just waiting madness step by greek side.

Btw if we buy any weapon from western countries it will give extra ability, more power is not bad huh.

 

[Foinikas]

because USA blocked sale of 100 F35 to Turkiye
and when Turkiye decided to buy F-35 decades ago , Greece had no Rafale

Turkiye needs new Fighter Jets to replace outdated F-4s

That's why you're making Kizelelma and TFX,right?

Old Rafale is not stealth platform
S400 and SIPER are enough to turn old Rafale into burned bird
if Greece buys 24 Rafales , Turkiye has already 192 S400 Air Defense Missiles

"Old" Rafale?

@BON PLAN check this out What about "old Eurofighter"? That you're trying to buy?

How are you so sure that SPECTRA will not work against S-400 and SIPER?

still dreaming about 24 Rafale which can not even flight over the Aegean , if Turkiye deploy S400 and SIPER in the EGE region

Still dreaming about S-400s which cannot even be activated,because of NATO?

Now watch greek media that how they crying we told the people we have more than this, we just waiting madness step by greek side.

Btw if we buy any weapon from western countries it will give extra ability, more power is not bad huh.

Crying? Who told you that we are crying? Erdogan? You believe ererything Erdogan says?

First of all,we have our Air Defence.

Second,what makes you think the EU and the rest of NATO won't react if you ever fire one against us?

Third,we too can look for more solutions...whether it is acquiring ballistic missiles or upgrading our Air Defence with new systems.

 

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Now watch greek media that how they crying we told the people we have more than this, we just waiting madness step by greek side.

Btw if we buy any weapon from western countries it will give extra ability, more power is not bad huh.

Turkiye is real military power thanks to national defense industry
Greeks are still dreaming about old Rafale

150 km SIPER block-2 Air Defense Systems to block all Helenic Air Force along the line of the 25th East Meridian

Hellenic Air Force can not cross along the line of the 25th East Meridian ( Islands of Skyros , Andros, Lemnos , Tinos , Sikinos )

 

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That's why you're making Kizelelma and TFX,right?

TFX to replace F-16 fleet in 2030s

KIZILELMA is a new concept for the Turkish Air Force ( unmanned stealth Fighter Jet )

two engined variant of KIZILELMA will be able to match with even F-35s in the next 5-7 years when if Greece buy 20 F-35 in 2028-2032

-- supersonic cruise
-- GaN based AESA Radar and EOTS for sensor fusion
-- internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability
-- network centric warfare capability
-- to carry RAMJET powered GOKHAN long range air to air missiles

2028-2032 senario
72 KIZILELMA with 144 air to air missiles vs 20 F35 with 40 air to air missiles

Crying? Who told you that we are crying? Erdogan?

Your MICOTAKIS cried in Washington " please dont give F-16V to Turkiye "

 

[Foinikas]

Your MICOTAKIS cried in Washington " please dont give F-16V to Turkiye "

Don't blame Greece,blame your government's idiotic policies and aggressive behavior which caused the sanctions.

2028-2032 senario
72 KIZILELMA with 144 air to air missiles vs 20 F35 with 40 air to air missiles

2028-2032? It's not even 2023.
By then,Kizelelma might have already failed as a project. Turkey could be bankrupt. A pro-Western leader could be a elected and the project stopped.

 

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Old" Rafale?

@BON PLAN check this out What about "old Eurofighter"? That you're trying to buy?

How are you so sure that SPECTRA will not work against S-400 and SIPER?

old Rafale is not 5th gen F-35 or F-22 ... so easy to turn Rafale into burned bird

SPECTRA is joke , RAFALE is full of joke

Dont compare BUK-TOR-PANTSIR with SIPER and S400 which have great countermeasure capability and firing range

better worry about 400 km HAVASOJ airborne stand off jammer and land based REDET-II Electronic warfare system

 

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Don't blame Greece,blame your government's idiotic policies and aggressive behavior which caused the sanctions.

-- USA-France support PKK/YPG terror organization to destroy Turkiye's territorial integrity
-- Greece is hidding behind USA-France and trying to steal oil-gas reserves and 150.000 km2 of area from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

so what ? to allow bandit countries to destroy Turkiye and to steal our rights ?
keep dreaming dream is free

2028-2032? It's not even 2023.
By then,Kizelelma might have already failed as a project. Turkey could be bankrupt. A pro-Western leader could be a elected and the project stopped.

BAYKAR has no any failed projects , TB-2 , AKINCI and now KIZILELMA


Everybody will see the first flight of KIZILELMA in the next 3 months
in 2028 Turkiye will have 72 KIZILELMA while Greece will get the first F-35 in 2028 ..
( even no any deal for F35)

also TAI turbofan engined UCAV ...


ERDOGAN-BAHCELI will rule Turkiye until june 2028
and Nobody can stop Turkish military projects ..

btw Turkiye has stronger and bigger economy than Greece+Egypt+$162 billion combined

better worry about bankrupt Greece

 

[Foinikas]

-- USA-France support PKK/YPG terror organization to destroy Turkiye's territorial integrity
-- Greece is hidding behind USA-France and trying to steal oil-gas reserves and 150.000 km2 of area from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

so what ? to allow bandit countries to destroy Turkiye and to steal our rights ?
keep dreaming dream is free

So boring when you repeat the same dumb arguements again and again.

Turkey's arguement is "we're stronger,so we should have more resources,land and sea."

Well that's that's wrong. The only bandit,is you. Not France,not Greece,not Egypt,not Cyprus,not Syria. It's Turkey.

BAYKAR has no any failed projects , TB-2 , AKINCI and now KIZILELMA


Everybody will see the first flight of KIZILELMA in the next 3 months
in 2028 Turkiye will have 72 KIZILELMA while Greece will get the first F-35 in 2028 ..
( even no any deal for F35)

Even no any deal? Lol...

If you make it,if it flies,if you put it in production,if you put it in active service,we'll see.

Until 2028...keep dreaming. DREAMS ARE FOR FREE.

 

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Even no any deal? Lol...

If you make it,if it flies,if you put it in production,if you put it in active service,we'll see.

Until 2028...keep dreaming. DREAMS ARE FOR FREE.

yes keep dreaming dream is free
no any deal for F35

So boring when you repeat the same dumb arguements again and again.

Reality hurts dumb people

Turkey's arguement is "we're stronger,so we should have more resources,land and sea."

Our arguement is international agreement , not trash Seville map

Well that's that's wrong. The only bandit,is you. Not France,not Greece,not Egypt,not Cyprus,not Syria. It's Turkey.

Bandit = USA,France,Greece,PKK/YPG,HAFTAR,SISI and ASSAD

 

[Foinikas]

yes keep dreaming dream is free
no any deal for F35

Greece proceeds with purchase of 20 Lockheed F-35 fighter jets -PM

Greece has sent an official request to the United States for the purchase of 20 Lockheed Martin-made F-35 fighter jets, the country's prime minister said on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

Our arguement is international agreement , not trash Seville map

There's no international agreement and you have no arguement.

what is the Seville Map?


This map depicts the delimitation of the continental shelf of Greece and Cyprus, according to the provisions of the Law of the Sea.

The map was created in 2003 by the University of Seville, following a mandate from the European Commission reportedly for the implementation of the Law of the Sea and the marine environmental protection in the Mediterranean Sea.


As the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) stipulates that the islands have a coastal zone and an Exclusive Economic Zone, the Map of Seville delimits the EEZ in Kastellorizo, allowing a connection between the Greek and Cypriot EEZs.

The map in question, prepared by professors Juan Luis Suarez de Vivero and Juan Carlos Rodríguez Mateos of the University of Seville at the Human Geography Department in 2003, suggests that Greece’s boundaries in the Aegean and Mediterranean seas, its continental shelf and the exclusive economic zone (EEZ) declared by the Greek Cypriot administration in 2004 indicate the official borders of the EU.


The Spanish study was conducted on behalf of the European Commission that wanted to know the maritime boundaries and the Mediterranean maritime jurisdictions, the exclusive economic zones of the bloc’s member states. Based of EU documents, KTG understands that the aim of the study was the Protection of Mediterranean Marine Environment.


KTG also understands that Greece submitted a map based on hypothetical 12 nautical miles that it could extend according to the International Law of the Sea in the early 1990’s, and beyond that. Its jurisdictions area included the EEZ and is reaching to the one of Cyprus.

With a Law in 2011 – Maniatis Law -, the Greek government stated that


“In the absence of a demarcation agreement with neighboring states whose coasts are adjacent or opposite to the Greek coasts, the outer boundary of the continental shelf and the Exclusive Economic Zone (after it has been declared), is the middle line, each point of which is equidistant from the nearest points of the baselines (both continental and insular) from which the width of the coastal zone is measured.”

The Seville Map that challenges Turkey, Greece, US and the EU - Keep Talking Greece

The United States does not consider the so-called

www.keeptalkinggreece.com

 

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Greece proceeds with purchase of 20 Lockheed F-35 fighter jets -PM

Greece has sent an official request to the United States for the purchase of 20 Lockheed Martin-made F-35 fighter jets, the country's prime minister said on Thursday.

www.reuters.com

as I say no any deal
USA-Greece did not sign any deal for F35

As the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) stipulates that the islands have a coastal zone and an Exclusive Economic Zone, the Map of Seville delimits the EEZ in Kastellorizo, allowing a connection between the Greek and Cypriot EEZs.

Read the article 2 of UNCLOS

Greece is not archipelagic state like Indonesia , New Zelland , Philippines
therefore Your EEZ should start from Greek mainland , but not from every tiny Island

and 10 km² tiny Island which is 2 km away from Turkish mainland and 580 km away from Greek mainland can not generate EZZ and can not block 783.562 km² Turkish mainland

what a daydreamer nation which are living in their fantasy world

Seville Map is trash and no any value .. And The Greek claim has no precedent in the world.

RED : Greek style EZZ of MALTA
GREEN : Real EZZ of MALTA

 

[Foinikas]

as I say no any deal
USA-Greece did not sign any deal for F35

Better than getting kicked out of the program and asking for F-16s

Read the article 2 of UNCLOS

Greece is not archipelagic state like Indonesia , New Zelland , Philippines
therefore Your EEZ should start from Greek mainland , but not from every tiny Island

and 10 km² tiny Island which is 2 km away from Turkish mainland and 580 km away from Greek mainland can not generate EZZ and can not block 783.562 km² Turkish mainland

what a daydreamer nation which are living in their fantasy world

Seville Map is trash and no any value .. And The Greek claim has no precedent in the world.

RED : Greek style EZZ of MALTA
GREEN : Real EZZ of MALTA

We've had the same conversation so many times.

You've had the same conversation with others so many times.

We've all showed you why you are wrong. Please,don't repeat the same things in a loop. It's pointless.

 

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Better than getting kicked out of the program and asking for F-16s

S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
also development program of the TFX and KIZILELMA

also TAI ( TUSAS ) unmanned Fighter Jet under production

also 40 new F-16V or Eurofighter ,, maybe even both

keep dreaming with F-35 in 2028-2032 .. even no any deal yet

We've had the same conversation so many times.

You've had the same conversation with others so many times.

We've all showed you why you are wrong. Please,don't repeat the same things in a loop. It's pointless.

You showed nothing except trash Seville Map which has no any value

You can not show us a single precedent in the world.which is similar to Greek claim

so back to the topic about Turkish missile projects which turns Greek dreams into nightmare

 

[Foinikas]

S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
also development program of the TFX and KIZILELMA

also TAI ( TUSAS ) unmanned Fighter Jet under production

also 40 new F-16V or Eurofighter ,, maybe even both

keep dreaming with F-35 in 2028-2032 .. even no any deal yet

Even no any deal F-16V or Eurofighter

Even no any TAI

Even no any Kizelelma

Even no any TFX

Keep dreaming! Dreams are for Turks!

You showed nothing except trash Seville Map which has no any value

Sevilla map is the Greek EEZ according to the Law of the Sea.