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Turkish Airways has to battle a massive crash of its profits this year. While it made 1.08 billion $ win in 2015 it made a 130 million loss in 2016.

The profit crash started after the june attack of the Istanbul Airport. But after the coup attempt at 15th july Turkish Airlines went into a uncontrolled dive it was unable to leave yet.

In November Turkish Airways put 30 aircrafts on hold...which is 9% of its fleet. It also took 32 destinations out of its program. The current low fuel prices prevented a even more massive loss.

In summer 2016 Turkish Airlines lost 211 of its employee from the "Gulen Cleansing raids".
 
Most airlines across the sector are posting loses it's a bad time across the board.
 
Alitalia Is Expected To Run Out Of Cash Within A Month
FEBRUARY 28, 2017 BY LUCKY31 COMMENTS

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Well, unfortunately it looks like Etihad’s investment in Alitalia isn’t working out quite as either party had hoped. A few years back Etihad bought a 49% stake in Alitalia, and there’s no doubt they improved their onboard product, in terms of business class seats, wifi, crew uniforms, dining, etc.

New-Alitalia-Uniforms.png


All of that is nice, but it doesn’t make an airline profitable. Since Etihad purchased a stake in Alitalia, the goal has been for Alitalia to break even by 2017. Instead Alitalia is expecting to make more than €600 million in operating losses this year. That’s average losss of €68,500 per hour. Ouch.

These losses aren’t sustainable, and in this case it looks like cash will be running out sooner rather than later. ItalyEurope24 is reporting that Alitalia is expected to run out of cash by the end of March, and will no longer be able to afford fuel or lease payments for their planes, pay their 12,000 employees, cover airport fees, etc.

Unlike in the past, Alitalia is also running out of options. Etihad already owns a 49% stake in Alitalia, which is the largest stake they’re allowed to hold. Furthermore, given the financial pressure Etihad is under, I can’t imagine they’ll continue to just throw money at Alitalia, given that Alitalia’s problems are getting worse, rather than better. Etihad has started to cut off airberlin, so I imagine the fate for Alitalia will be similar.

In fairness, Alitalia was in a similar situation just before Christmas last year, though they received a €180 million lifeline (which only lasts a few months, at the rate they’re losing money):

They avoided the collapse on December 22nd when the shareholder banks on the board, UniCredit and Intesa Sanpaolo, released the lines of credit that were already granted, worth €180 million. Facing strong pressing by Paolo Gentiloni’s government, the banks turned a blind eye to the fact that there’s no business plan to indicate how the company intends to turn things around and stop hemorrhaging losses.

Alitalia-777.jpg


The airline just isn’t presenting any sort of a realistic goal, and hasn’t met any of their targets:

“Within three weeks,” Alitalia will have a plan that’s “strong and brave”, stated President Luca Cordero di Montezemolo on January 12th. More than six weeks have passed, but the plan still hasn’t shown up. Independent advisor Roland Berger gave a negative first evaluation of CEO Cramer Ball’s business plan draft. There were also failed results for the savings that the December 22nd board had asked Ball to launch within 60 days. They’ve only saved (for certain) €1.2 million, in maintenance, in comparison with their goal of reaching at least €160 million this year among all suppliers (from airplane leasing to handling), excluding employee costs.

Simply put, the airline is a complete disaster. Is there a chance they’ll be given yet another lifeline? Absolutely. Is it possible that the airline will be forced to ground planes and shut down many of their operations in a few weeks? I’d say so.

But even if Alitalia gets yet another lifeline, I don’t see how they’ll actually thrive long term. These are all short term boosts that might give them a few more months of life, but it doesn’t solve their bigger issue. Up until now Alitalia hasn’t met any of their stated goals since Etihad’s takeover, and the situation is getting worse, and not better.

Personally I wouldn’t feel especially confident about any Alitalia flights for travel after March operating as scheduled

http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/02/28/alitalia-running-out-of-cash/



whooooops!!!!o_O

Hey Marcus, maybe the arabs will give more cash to save Alitalia eh?
 
Alitalia Is Expected To Run Out Of Cash Within A Month
FEBRUARY 28, 2017 BY LUCKY31 COMMENTS

23

Well, unfortunately it looks like Etihad’s investment in Alitalia isn’t working out quite as either party had hoped. A few years back Etihad bought a 49% stake in Alitalia, and there’s no doubt they improved their onboard product, in terms of business class seats, wifi, crew uniforms, dining, etc.

New-Alitalia-Uniforms.png


All of that is nice, but it doesn’t make an airline profitable. Since Etihad purchased a stake in Alitalia, the goal has been for Alitalia to break even by 2017. Instead Alitalia is expecting to make more than €600 million in operating losses this year. That’s average losss of €68,500 per hour. Ouch.

These losses aren’t sustainable, and in this case it looks like cash will be running out sooner rather than later. ItalyEurope24 is reporting that Alitalia is expected to run out of cash by the end of March, and will no longer be able to afford fuel or lease payments for their planes, pay their 12,000 employees, cover airport fees, etc.

Unlike in the past, Alitalia is also running out of options. Etihad already owns a 49% stake in Alitalia, which is the largest stake they’re allowed to hold. Furthermore, given the financial pressure Etihad is under, I can’t imagine they’ll continue to just throw money at Alitalia, given that Alitalia’s problems are getting worse, rather than better. Etihad has started to cut off airberlin, so I imagine the fate for Alitalia will be similar.

In fairness, Alitalia was in a similar situation just before Christmas last year, though they received a €180 million lifeline (which only lasts a few months, at the rate they’re losing money):

They avoided the collapse on December 22nd when the shareholder banks on the board, UniCredit and Intesa Sanpaolo, released the lines of credit that were already granted, worth €180 million. Facing strong pressing by Paolo Gentiloni’s government, the banks turned a blind eye to the fact that there’s no business plan to indicate how the company intends to turn things around and stop hemorrhaging losses.

Alitalia-777.jpg


The airline just isn’t presenting any sort of a realistic goal, and hasn’t met any of their targets:

“Within three weeks,” Alitalia will have a plan that’s “strong and brave”, stated President Luca Cordero di Montezemolo on January 12th. More than six weeks have passed, but the plan still hasn’t shown up. Independent advisor Roland Berger gave a negative first evaluation of CEO Cramer Ball’s business plan draft. There were also failed results for the savings that the December 22nd board had asked Ball to launch within 60 days. They’ve only saved (for certain) €1.2 million, in maintenance, in comparison with their goal of reaching at least €160 million this year among all suppliers (from airplane leasing to handling), excluding employee costs.

Simply put, the airline is a complete disaster. Is there a chance they’ll be given yet another lifeline? Absolutely. Is it possible that the airline will be forced to ground planes and shut down many of their operations in a few weeks? I’d say so.

But even if Alitalia gets yet another lifeline, I don’t see how they’ll actually thrive long term. These are all short term boosts that might give them a few more months of life, but it doesn’t solve their bigger issue. Up until now Alitalia hasn’t met any of their stated goals since Etihad’s takeover, and the situation is getting worse, and not better.

Personally I wouldn’t feel especially confident about any Alitalia flights for travel after March operating as scheduled

http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/02/28/alitalia-running-out-of-cash/



whooooops!!!!o_O

Hey Marcus, maybe the arabs will give more cash to save Alitalia eh?

Alitalia is always bancrupt. In the past it was the italian state who had to pump money into it again and again. It was one of Berlusconis greatest deals to put this burden on some Arabs. As it looks now, Alitalia starts to suck Etihad dry. The entire business laughes about that deal.

In the end Alitalia will end up on italian tax money as it did since day one of its foundation.

Did some Turk steal your woman? What's with the obsession with Turkey.:lol:

Our party vurrently has the goal to build up Turkey as enemy. It profits our country. We made gigantic profits last year because people chose us over turkey.
 
Alitalia is always bancrupt. In the past it was the italian state who had to pump money into it again and again. It was one of Berlusconis greatest deals to put this burden on some Arabs. As it looks now, Alitalia starts to suck Etihad dry. The entire business laughes about that deal.

In the end Alitalia will end up on italian tax money as it did since day one of its foundation.



Our party vurrently has the goal to build up Turkey as enemy. It profits our country. We made gigantic profits last year because people chose us over turkey.

italy will soon be a turkish province
 
Alitalia is always bancrupt. In the past it was the italian state who had to pump money into it again and again. It was one of Berlusconis greatest deals to put this burden on some Arabs. As it looks now, Alitalia starts to suck Etihad dry. The entire business laughes about that deal.

In the end Alitalia will end up on italian tax money as it did since day one of its foundation.



Our party vurrently has the goal to build up Turkey as enemy. It profits our country. We made gigantic profits last year because people chose us over turkey.

Your the next Greece:p: your only hope is that the EU isnt disbanded and bails you out
 


This site is english speaking:

http://atwonline.com/airline-financials/turkish-airlines-posts-77-million-net-loss-2016

You post fake news in a language which is forbidden on this site.

"
Turkish Airlines reported a 2016 net loss of $77 million, reversed from a net profit of $1.7 billion for the previous year.

The Istanbul-based carrier reported a $291 million loss from main operations for the year, reversed from an $895 million profit in 2015.

Revenue for 2016 was $9.8 billion, down 6.9% from $10.5 billion in 2015.

Turkish Airlines had budgeted for double-digit growth in 2016, but the June terrorist attack at Istanbul Ataturk Airport and an attempted military coup later in the same summer seriously affected demand and profits.

Turkish CEO Bilal Eksi told ATW recently that the flag carrier expected to have losses, “but not so much because of what happened last year. In 2016, demand suddenly changed.”

ASKs grew 10.7% and the carrier transported 62.8% million passengers, up 2.5% year-over-year (YOY), creating a load factor of 74.6%, down 3% YOY.

Operational expenses grew 3.1% YOY to $10.1 billion for 2016.

Turkish generated $1.6 billion of EBITDAR in 2016, down 36.9% YOY, with a 16.6% margin, down 7.9 percentage points YOY.

SunExpress, a joint venture of Lufthansa and Turkish Airlines, announced a loss of $26 million for 2016.

Looking forward, Eksi said the biggest challenge for 2017 is cost savings and growth. Also, he said priorities were “modernizing our IT systems and exploring ancillary revenues, for example on exit rows like other airlines are doing.”"

Let me guess, your turkish propaganda sites hail a gigantic victory for Turkish Airlines, declare profit evil and celebate the loss?
 
Turkish Airlines

Traffic results for the period of October 2017 are as follows:


  • During the period of October 2017 passenger carried increased by 12.7%, to 6.2 million passengers from 5.5 million passengers for the same period of 2016. Increase in number of passengers carried in domestic and international lines are 13% and 12.4%, respectively.
  • Total L/F increased by 6.3 point to 81% while International L/F increased by 6.6 point.
  • RPK increased by 10.4% to 12.3 billion during the period of October 2017 from 11.1 billion for the same period of 2016. Increase in RPK in domestic and international lines are 12.7% and 10%, respectively.
  • International-to-international transfer passengers increased by 7.8%.
  • Cargo/Mail carried during the period of October 2017 increased by 21.6% to 105.767 tons from 86.977 tons in 2016.
  • During the period of October 2017, the regional developments:
    • Increase in RPK in C.& S. America, Middle East, Far East and Africa are 23.8%, 14%, 8.7% and 8.2%.
    • Increase in L/F in North America, Middle East, Europe and Far East are 9 pt., 8 pt., 5.9 pt. and 5,7 pt.
    • Increase in passenger carried in S.& C. America, Domestic lines, Middle East, Far East, Africa and Europe are 37.7%, 12.6%, 12.6%, 10.3%, 10.1% and 8.8% respectively.

Traffic results for the period of January-October 2017 are as follows:


  • During the period of January-October 2017 passengers carried increased by 7.5%, to 57.8 million passengers from 53.8 million passengers for the same period of 2016. Increase in number of passengers carried in domestic and international lines are 8.3% and 6.9%, respectively.
  • International-to-international transfer passengers increased by 2.5%.
  • L/F increased by 4.5 point to 79%.
  • ASK increased by 0.3% to 145.6 billion during the period of January-October 2017 from 145.2 billion for the same period of 2016. ASK in domestic lines increased by 6.3% while ASK in international lines decreased by 0.6%.
  • RPK increased by 6.4% to 115.1 billion during the period of January-October 2017 from 108.2 billion for the same period of 2016. Increase in RPK in domestic and international lines are 8.2% and 6.1%, respectively.
  • Number of landings (passenger aircraft) of 396.939 for the period of January-October 2016 decreased by 0.3% to 395.786 in 2017.
  • Cargo/Mail carried during the period of January-October 2017 increased by 26.3% to 917.397 tons from 726.270 tons in 2016.
  • By the end of October 2017, number of aircraft went down to 329 from 334 of October 2016. Number of wide body aircraft increased from 86 to 90, narrow body aircraft decreased from 237 to 223, and cargo aircraft went up to 16 from 11.
 
Seems like another dream of Markus about Turkey has been demolished. The poor guy's lifetime won't let him to see a bankrupted, civil-war fighting, surrendered Turkey...
 
Seems like another dream of Markus about Turkey has been demolished. The poor guy's lifetime won't let him to see a bankrupted, civil-war fighting, surrendered Turkey...
He has a personal grudge against THY because he didnt like the movie in the on-board entertainment system. :D
 
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