Turkish Air Transporting Israeli Reserve Forces

[RazPaK]

And the whole world is honorless because it recognizes one or the other.
We recognize both, what does that make us in your eyes?

You tell me.

 

[Worf]

You tell me.

It's makes the turkish people "honourless" in your eyes.

Good thing nobody cares about what you think.

 

[B+ Dracula]

Pakistan do not recognize Israel or Armenia, because we are not honorless people.

I have deep respect for my Turk brothers, but they're lost in Past Injustice done by Arabs to them.....Now they devise a wonderful strategy....Have friendship with their Mortal Enemies, to wom they fought last 900 years, Now on Humanitarians Ground they join NATO....(for me it wont make any sense) but also i dont want to hurt Turk feelings ...

 

[RazPaK]

I have deep respect for my Turk brothers, but they're lost in Past Injustice done by Arabs to them.....Now they devise a wonderful strategy....Have friendship with their Mortal Enemies, to wom they fought last 900 years, Now on Humanitarians Ground they join NATO....(for me it wont make any sense) but also i dont want to hurt Turk feelings ...

That's the reason I avoid threads about Turkey. I love the Turkish people and country, but I don't want to hurt their feelings.

 

[-SINAN-]

I have deep respect for my Turk brothers, but they're lost in Past Injustice done by Arabs to them.....Now they devise a wonderful strategy....Have friendship with their Mortal Enemies, to wom they fought last 900 years, Now on Humanitarians Ground they join NATO....(for me it wont make any sense) but also i dont want to hurt Turk feelings ...

That's the reason I avoid threads about Turkey. I love the Turkish people and country, but I don't want to hurt their feelings.

Ehmmm... you can't hurt our feelings, as we don't care what foreigners think about us.... That would be different if you had been Turk.

 

[ANMDT]

I have deep respect for my Turk brothers, but they're lost in Past Injustice done by Arabs to them.....Now they devise a wonderful strategy....Have friendship with their Mortal Enemies, to wom they fought last 900 years, Now on Humanitarians Ground they join NATO....(for me it wont make any sense) but also i dont want to hurt Turk feelings ...

You look at the matter so easy ,as if its just a injustice .
In WWI ottoman empire deeply trusted in arabs, consider armenians as trusted nation . What did arabs do? followed europe who gives some golds to them,and offers them their " freedoom" , while they only became a colony of them.
I dont know if you ever known how madina city defended against christians, there were also arabs who is poisoning wells, attack city to their muslim brothers.
It was a betray, not injustice ,and it gona happen again because those people only cares their own benefits

 

[B+ Dracula]

It was a betray, not injustice ,and it gona happen again because those people only cares their own benefits

How about Bangladesh betrayal of 1971, now they become colony of India .....What we do?? SUICIDE or Sit at home cry like Lady?? In the timeline of Great Nations those events wont makes them feel Empty.

 

[ANMDT]

How about Bangladesh betrayal of 1971, now they become colony of India .....What we do?? SUICIDE or Sit at home cry like Lady?? In the timeline of Great Nations those events wont makes them feel Empty.

its your own problem..not ours, what i try to say is that, there wasnt anyone in region who helps us when we were down..about Bangladesh ,its your nation's problem..and you can think anything you want.
I dont know about betrayal of bangladesh ,so i dont give any comment on that.. You dont know how they betrayed us,had better not comment on it .
Dont get my words wrong , i dont mean like we shouldnt help gaza or whomelse, i mean we dont help them with name of Ummah ,but help with name of humanity at 1st.
Still turkey is the country who gives the most loud out, against israel and whom supports them.

 

[usernameless]

I have deep respect for my Turk brothers, but they're lost in Past Injustice done by Arabs to them.....Now they devise a wonderful strategy....Have friendship with their Mortal Enemies, to wom they fought last 900 years, Now on Humanitarians Ground they join NATO....(for me it wont make any sense) but also i dont want to hurt Turk feelings ...

What do you mean 'friendship with their mortal enemies'? Turks dont feel any special friendship towards Europeans (as we do towards brotherly Turkic countries and exceptional friendly countries like Pakistan, Bosnia and South Korea), we know well their hypocrite and two-faced attitude towards us. If you mean 'friendship' due nato, that was a choice Turkish govt had to make in the past; either become a possible satellite state of the soviets or join nato. Imo avoiding joining soviets was much better choice, so govt did well at that time. Turkey will have to stay in nato for some time to come till Turkey's military industry's capacity and economy is solid and strong enough. There are only a few small east European countries with whom Turkey and Turks have good relationship with, the rest is just neutral/hostile with Turkey. As for Gaza, Turkey should and must imo help people on basis of humanitarian support and criticizing Israel for such blunt and grave crimes should be acceptable too. What i dont like, though, is how the current Turkish govt tries harder (rightfully or wrongfully) than Arabs to solve the Palestinian issue and Arabs' and Iranians' general nagging about Turkish ('neo-Ottoman') influence when Turkey tries to help and voice its opinion about matters in the Arab world/ME. At the same time if Turkey does not help, Turks, who now will start to be called 'secular kuffar Turks', become the target of muslims for not helping. Let them, the Arab world in this case, solve it. unfortunately they have leaders that are direct stooges of the west and/or lack balls due their own comfortable situation. All in all, ummah is not possible to achieve on political level between middle eastern countries due distrust and own agendas

 

[Faheka]

RAZPAK, SHOWGUN just stfu already.. take a hard look at your governments policy on your own people (US drone strikes) BEFORE speaking about honor.. your zigzaging government selling itself out to the highest bidder, changing your opinions on the spot when it comes to uyghurs or when getting russian helos (İt is built like an İFV omg its teh best!!!)when we all know not getting hit in the first place is what it is all about now days with sophisticated ECM.. Here we have two dictators, one is blockading 1,8 million people (sisi) and one financing it because it's scared of its own shadow (tribal 'state' of SA). And you are here bad mouthing us mf? fu.

 

[B+ Dracula]

its your own problem..not ours, what i try to say is that, there wasnt anyone in region who helps us when we were down..about Bangladesh ,its your nation's problem..and you can think anything you want.
I dont know about betrayal of bangladesh ,so i dont give any comment on that.. You dont know how they betrayed us,had better not comment on it .
Dont get my words wrong , i dont mean like we shouldnt help gaza or whomelse, i mean we dont help them with name of Ummah ,but help with name of humanity at 1st.
Still turkey is the country who gives the most loud out, against israel and whom supports them.

Accepted.....
I understand how Arabs betrayed you in the middle of war, and what that fall upon them is best to be called Punishment

What do you mean 'friendship with their mortal enemies'? Turks dont feel any special friendship towards Europeans (as we do towards brotherly Turkic countries and exceptional friendly countries like Pakistan, Bosnia and South Korea), we know well their hypocrite and two-faced attitude towards us. If you mean 'friendship' due nato, that was a choice Turkish govt had to make in the past; either become a possible satellite state of the soviets or join nato. Imo avoiding joining soviets was much better choice, so govt did well at that time. Turkey will have to stay in nato for some time to come till Turkey's military industry's capacity and economy is solid and strong enough. There are only a few small east European countries with whom Turkey and Turks have good relationship with, the rest is just neutral/hostile with Turkey. As for Gaza, Turkey should and must imo help people on basis of humanitarian support and criticizing Israel for such blunt and grave crimes should be acceptable too. What i dont like, though, is how the current Turkish govt tries harder (rightfully or wrongfully) than Arabs to solve the Palestinian issue and Arabs' and Iranians' general nagging about Turkish ('neo-Ottoman') influence when Turkey tries to help and voice its opinion about matters in the Arab world/ME. At the same time if Turkey does not help, Turks, who now will start to be called 'secular kuffar Turks', become the target of muslims for not helping. Let them, the Arab world in this case, solve it. unfortunately they have leaders that are direct stooges of the west and/or lack balls due their own comfortable situation. All in all, ummah is not possible to achieve on political level between middle eastern countries due distrust and own agendas

I think in Regional Diplomacy Turks dont want to appear as Guiding Arab for their Policies, and Rich Arab are not enough Educated to handle International Politics.
So its better to all of us to wait & see how the international community play its role in that region & how new alliances come into being

 

[what]

You tell me.

I'd rather be honorless then whatever you are.

 

[RazPaK]

I'd rather be honorless then whatever you are.

A supporter of human rights?

 

[FunkyGen]

If Turks are prostitutes then we're the world's biggest whores

 

[olcayto]

@Kaan , this thread will lead to nothing good.
I advice to close it down.