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Before Erdoğan Turkey had accepted Uygur refuges escaped from communist China!Lol so now it's the U S that pushed or brainwashed Erdogan in supporting Uyghurs cause in China?
Some people here are some used in blaming all their actions on the West.
I believe Erdogan has his own reasons and interests in supporting the Uyghurs cause and giving them refuge in Turkey( the west never forced him to do that), just like he supports the Muslim brotherhood. It's not because of U.S propaganda or whatever.
Actually we were supporting the Ottomans in the beginning mainly as a buffer against Soviet Russia. It was only after the Ottomans sided with the Germans against us that we changed our policy and got involved in dismantling the Ottoman empire.
Our main rival was Soviet Russia and then Germany as the country was rising and preparing for war per WWI, the Ottomans just happened to have sided with the wrong side during the war and paid the price for it, just like other countries who sided with the wrong side during those 2 terrible wars (Germany, Japan, Italy etc).
Lol Ok, so it's just a campaign to smear Turkey then. Seems every single country in the middle East is so used to blaming all their action/ills on "others/external forces".Before Erdoğan Turkey had accepted Uygur refuges escaped from communist China!
Do you think Accepting refugees is supporting terrorists? Do you have any prove about that Turkey gave logistic or material help to Uygurs who live 10.00 km far from our land?
Everything were supported by US!
Do you know that when Turkey made negotiations with China about air defence system, suddenly in Istanbul city some conservative (supporters of BBP) patriots started protesting against China!
Exciting today our some conservatives forgot about China, because no more deal with China!
There are all provocations!
The Turkish version of this is that the English rejected Turkish advances for an alliance. I think expensive warships were confiscated also. This along with a particular pro German Pasha + German gifts (juggernauts/battle cruisers) took the sting out of the British snub and the Ottomans Joined the Central Powers.Lol so now it's the U S that pushed or brainwashed Erdogan in supporting Uyghurs cause in China?
Some people here are so used in blaming all their actions on the West.
I believe Erdogan has his own reasons and interests in supporting the Uyghurs cause(since according to some they are related to the Turks ) and giving them refuge in Turkey( the west never forced him to do that), just like he supports the Muslim brotherhood. It's not because of U.S propaganda or whatever.
Actually we were supporting the Ottomans in the beginning mainly as a buffer against Soviet Russia. It was only after the Ottomans sided with the Germans against us that we changed our policy and got involved in dismantling the Ottoman empire.
Our main rival was Soviet Russia and then Germany as the country was rising and preparing for war per WWI, the Ottomans just happened to have sided with the wrong side during the war and paid the price for it, just like other countries who sided with the wrong side during those 2 terrible wars (Germany, Japan, Italy etc).
absolutely, with the ottoman oversight there was a federation concept which could have been had but shortsighted there let the british/french carve out and step in to support the arabs. Saud family were then were then imposed across the new marked territories of 'jordan', 'saudi arabia', 'iraq' etc as kings - what kings? just puppets put by colonials to run their will.Ottoman Empire is what kept British Kingdom/Russia at bay for years. To the extent, Ottoman Empire would have kept USA at bay as well.
The collapse of Ottoman Empire meant the beginning of destruction for Middle East simply because Arab wanted Arab nationalism despite enjoying protection from Ottoman Empire for centurions.
Suffice to say, Arab got what they wanted and now they are complaining about nobody from Muslim worlds is coming to the rescue. To the extent, Pakistan is often blamed for not getting involved in Middle East.
I mean who asked them to betray Ottoman Empire that was keeping British Kingdom and Russia at bay for years from unleashing destruction in Middle East.
Now it comes to the point that Arabs are fighting each other under the name of either nationalism or sectarian, or you name it.
I just cannot see any advantage Turkey can take from support Uyghur separatists, the main pusher must be US, but pan-turkism offers perfect handle for US. It's easy to create a problem but hard to resolve it, now even Turkish government agree not to support the separatists, it's hardly possible for Chinese government and people to trust Turkey since we got hurt by the terror caused by them and Xinjiang will no longer be stable as it used to be. So sad that Turkey and China should have become natural allies, sigh...Just blame short-sighted politiciansBefore Erdoğan Turkey had accepted Uygur refuges escaped from communist China!
Do you think Accepting refugees is supporting terrorists? Do you have any prove about that Turkey gave logistic or material help to Uygurs who live 10.00 km far from our land?
Everything were supported by US!
Do you know that when Turkey made negotiations with China about air defence system, suddenly in Istanbul city some conservative (supporters of BBP) patriots started protesting against China!
Exciting today our some conservatives forgot about China, because no more deal with China!
There are all provocations!
Thank you for you info bro!
If my memory serves me right, it's Pakistan introduce China to build diplomatic ties with KSA in 1970s.
The explanation is quite simple brother. Every single terrorists group in Pakistan is financed by the Saudi family or by there extremists ideology which has claimed thousands of lives in our country. Furthermore, in the past they have intervened and given a jail free card to Pakistani politicians that are corrupt. If Saudi Arabia was a true friend of Pakistan then it wouldn't have a friendly relationship with India. The Kingdom is protected by 10,000 Pakistani troops, yet they have invested peanuts in our country. Does this mean Pakistani people hate Saudi people. No way, in fact we love our fellow Muslim brothers, and our bond with them will never break, however, the ruling family is another case. But I will never accept the idea of Turkey attacking Saudi Arabia and vice versa. One day this entire bloc will be united under one banner and hopefully our relationship with China will be strong.
Hang on a minute! China has hurt the Uighur People this has nothing to do with Pan-Turkism. Turkey is immaterial here. This is a social problem that is 50% (at least) China's fault. We don't need Chinese to trust us. we didn't do anything to China. Again, look at the ideology behind the terrorism - Islamic Extremism born from SA. Not pan-Turkic terrorism.I just cannot see any advantage Turkey can take from support Uyghur separatists, the main pusher must be US, but pan-turkism offers perfect handle for US. It's easy to create a problem but hard to resolve it, now even Turkish government agree not to support the separatists, it's hardly possible for Chinese government and people to trust Turkey since we got hurt by the terror caused by them and Xinjiang will no longer be stable as it used to be. So sad that Turkey and China should have become natural allies, sigh...Just blame short-sighted politicians
I just cannot see any advantage Turkey can take from support Uyghur separatists, the main pusher must be US, but pan-turkism offers perfect handle for US. It's easy to create a problem but hard to resolve it, now even Turkish government agree not to support the separatists, it's hardly possible for Chinese government and people to trust Turkey since we got hurt by the terror caused by them and Xinjiang will no longer be stable as it used to be. So sad that Turkey and China should have become natural allies, sigh...Just blame short-sighted politicians
ok linglong go home
no bro, germanyU are living in Pakistan?
no bro, germany