Turkey wants to buy 40 new F-16 block70 and 80 F-16 modernization to the Viper standard

[Indos]

Doesn't even make sense. Just proves GDP nominal is the real indicator. America economy is bigger then China and is more powerful then china (Navy and airforce). GDP PPP China is and will be far greater than America but even when China is GDP PPP 40trillion and America PPP is 25trillion America will still be stronger so that just shows nominal is the only indicator. Plenty of other examples as well you need to find more convincing arguments to prove someone wrong then just saying they are wrong with no explanation.

Another example is Indonesia PPP is far greater then UK/France and Turkey but its military and real economic strength is no where near as powerful. Just proves that GDP PPP means NOTHING.

Indonesia nominal GDP is greater than Turkey. Indonesia also posted surplus 20 billion USD in their trade balance in 2020 with so far still posting even greater surplus in first semester 2021 compared to same period last year, relatively strong currency, AlhamduliLLAH

Indonesia industrial out put is already 10 biggest in the world, beating England and also Canada

Indonesia one of the world's top 10 manufacturers

Indonesia has been listed as one of the world’s top 10 manufacturers by the United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO).

www.thejakartapost.com

As Chinese Australian you should know this

Indonesia warns against Australia’s possible embassy move to Jerusalem

Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi warns Australia of the consequences of moving its embassy to Jerusalem, after Prime Minister Scott Morrison weighed the possibility of such action just days before a local by-election.

www.thejakartapost.com

 

[MMM-E]

Indonesia nominal GDP is greater than Turkey.

anybody attack on Indonesia and Indonesian Economy ?


on the other hand USA used Dollars as a weapon against Turkish economy and 1 USD has risen to 8,8 TL from 1,8 TL between 2013 and 2021

Turkish currency droped by 488% in the last 7 years

If there were no attacks on Turkey and Turkish economy , Today Turkey would have minimum $1,5 trillion of GDP Nominal instead of $794 billion

Indonesia has $1.158 trillion of GDP Nominal by 2021
even Turkey had $956 billion of GDP Nominal in 2013


btw Turkey lost over $1 trillion since 1990 because of

to fight PKK terrorism
İraq war
Syrian war
attacks on Turkish economy by The US



Turkey is in active fight in Iraq,Syria,Azerbaijan,Libya and Eastern Mediterranean against Superpowers,Globalpowers,regionalpowers and their proxies by military and economically

 

[Indos]

anybody attack on Indonesia and Indonesian Economy ?


on the other hand USA used Dollars as a weapon against Turkish economy and 1 USD has risen to 8,8 TL from 1,8 TL between 2013 and 2021

Turkish currency droped by 488% in the last 7 years

If there were no attacks on Turkey and Turkish economy , Today Turkey would have minimum $1,5 trillion of GDP Nominal instead of $794 billion

Indonesia has $1.158 trillion of GDP Nominal by 2021
even Turkey had $956 billion of GDP Nominal in 2013

Indonesia nominal GDP in 2009 is also already 920 billion USD. No one attack Turkish economy, whole developing countries were also experiencing sharp currency depreciation since that period, you can check Iran nominal GDP which is also stagnant and lost value, same with other developing countries like Pakistan, India, Bangladesh.

The reason is tapering policy by US Fed.

Turkey problem is also caused by Erdogan that interfere in Turkish Central Bank policy.

 

[MMM-E]

No one attack Turkish economy, whole developing countries were also experiencing sharp currency depreciation since that period

1 USD has risen to 7,2 TL from 3,8 TL in a few months in 2018

because in 2018 TRUMP attacked Turkish Economy to save CIA agent BRUNSON


1 march 2018 1 USD was 3,8 TL
12 august 2018 1 USD was 7,2 TL


in 2019 , TRUMP again threatened Turkey to destroy economy

Trump threatens to 'totally destroy and obliterate' Turkey's economy

Trump's warning came after bipartisan complaints that he's leaving the U.S.-allied Kurdish fighters to the mercy of the Turkish military.

www.nbcnews.com

so Of course , whole developing countries were also experiencing sharp currency depreciation since that period

but plus , Turkey and Turkish economy were under attack by The US and their terror organizations

-- 2013 Gezi Park rebellion
-- 2013 FETO's judical coup attemp
-- 2015 PKK's big rebellion in 22 cities
-- 2015-17 ISIS's 14 major terror attacks in Turkey
-- 2016 FETO's military coup attempt
-- 2018 TRUMP's attack on Turkish Economy


I am saying again , If there were no attacks on Turkey and Turkish economy , Today Turkey would have minimum $1,5 trillion of GDP Nominal instead of $794 billion


I didn't calculate from 488% currency depreciation between 2013 and 2021

I calculate from 190% currency depreciation between 1 march 2018 and 12 august 2018 when TRUMP attacked Turkish economy to save CIA agent BRUNSON

 

[Indos]

1 USD has risen to 7,2 TL from 3,8 TL in a few months in 2018

because in 2018 TRUMP attacked Turkish Economy to save CIA agent BRUNSON


1 march 2018 1 USD was 3,8 TL
12 august 2018 1 USD was 7,2 TL


in 2019 , TRUMP again threatened Turkey to destroy economy

Trump threatens to 'totally destroy and obliterate' Turkey's economy

Trump's warning came after bipartisan complaints that he's leaving the U.S.-allied Kurdish fighters to the mercy of the Turkish military.

www.nbcnews.com

so Of course , whole developing countries were also experiencing sharp currency depreciation since that period

but plus , Turkey and Turkish economy were under attack by The US and their terror organizations

-- 2013 Gezi Park rebellion
-- 2013 FETO's judical coup attemp
-- 2015 PKK's big rebellion in 22 cities
-- 2015-17 ISIS's 14 major terror attacks in Turkey
-- 2016 FETO's military coup attempt
-- 2018 TRUMP's attack on Turkish Economy


I am saying again , If there were no attacks on Turkey and Turkish economy , Today Turkey would have minimum $1,5 trillion of GDP Nominal instead of $794 billion

You should be able to differentiate between real action and a threatening.

US never put economic sanction on Turkey ( only related to defense related industry like Attack Helicopter deal to Pakistan, very small in term of economic value, it is due to CATSA)

What I want to comment is that many problem is created by Erdogan. He sanctions many FETO members and put them in jail or make them exile in other countries. FETO has strong economic powers as many entrepreneurs and high skilled people are the members of this organization. Both FETO and AKP is Islamist, better for Erdogan only sanction few FETO members and forgive other members for the sake of unity in Turkey and also for the sake of Turkish progress in many sectors, including its economy.

 

[Shabi1]

The Turkish Ministry of Defense sent a Letter of Request (LoR) to the American government for the acquisition of 40 new F-16C/D Block 70 Viper Fighter Jets as well as the modernization of a total of 80 existing Turkish F-16s to the Viper standard


-- 40 new F-16 block70
-- 80 F-16 modernization to the Viper standard



F-16 Block70

-- APG-83 AESA radar ... ( The APG-83 provides F-16s with 5th Generation fighter radar capabilities )
-- New avionics architecture
-- New mission computer and electronic warfare suite
-- The new Center Pedestal Display (CPD) which provides critical tactical imagery to pilots on a high-resolution 6”x 8” screen
-- Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System (Auto GCAS)
-- The Night Vision Imaging System
-- The Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System II
-- SNIPER Advanced Targeting Pod
-- IRST (Infrared Search and Track)
-- Conformal fuel tanks
-- Extended structural service life of 12,000 hours
-- General Electric F110-GE-132 Engine rated at 32,500 lbf (144 kN) of afterburning thrust

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Turkish wants new F-16 Vipers & modernization of existing fighters in a strategic reaction to Greece's moves - ProtoThema English

Will the US sell the Vipers to Turkey & what repercussions will that have on the Greek-American MDCA agreement that is being negotiated

en.protothema.gr

Wouldn't this kill Turkey's own F-16 modernization program (local missiles, local AESA radar etc)

 

[MMM-E]

You should be able to differentiate between real action and a threatening.

Do you know what about economic attack ? to use American Dollars as a weapon

I am not talking about threatening ......... I am talking about action


I am saying again , Turkish currency dropped by 190% in a few months in 2018 ... why ?

because in 2018 TRUMP attacked Turkish Economy to save CIA agent BRUNSON

1 USD has risen to 7,2 TL from 3,8 TL in a few months in 2018

1 march 2018 1 USD was 3,8 TL
12 august 2018 1 USD was 7,2 TL


Economic sanction or CAATSA is different story

What I want to comment is that many problem is created by Erdogan. He sanctions many FETO members and put them in jail or make them exile in other countries. FETO has strong economic powers as many entrepreneurs and high skilled people are the members of this organization. Both FETO and AKP is Islamist, better for Erdogan only sanction few FETO members and forgive other members for the sake of unity in Turkey and also for the sake of Turkish progress in many sectors, including its economy.

FETO is a traitor terror organization ... and nothing to do with ISLAM
Members are lapdogs of The US and İsrael

as llike KESNIZANI Organization who gave İraq to USA

FETO tried to destroy future of Turkish People

FETO would allow USA-İsrael to create PKK/YPG Terror State in Syria against Turkey
FETO would allow USA-İsrael-France-Greece to steal oil/gas reserves and MAVI VATAN from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean
FETO would stop major military projects

therefore USA backed traitor FETO tried to kill ERDOGAN between 2013 and 2016 including failed coup attempt


ERDOGAN should kill all FETO Members ,
otherwise after ERDOGAN , traitor FETO Members will return to the Turkish Armed Forces , Police , also to the Judiciary to work for American-İsraeli interests

USA control Fettulah Gülen and He control all stupid zombies who can do everything for him

 

[Foinikas]

So will you ask Putin for Su-35s?

 

[MMM-E]

Wouldn't this kill Turkey's own F-16 modernization program (local missiles, local AESA radar etc)

NO

Turkey has already continues to modernize 35 F-16 block30 with indigenous Systems and Weapons

USA allowed Turkey to modernize only 35 F-16 block30s

 

[MMM-E]

So will you ask Putin for Su-35s?

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Turkey never will allow bandit Countries to steal oil/gas reserves and MAVI VATAN from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean



Chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee Senator Bob Menendez who married an ethnic Armenian lady ( Nadine Arslanian ) always engaged to destroy good ties with Turkey

I know Armenian , Greek , İsraeli lobbies will use anti-Turkey Senator Menendez as a pawn to block sale of F-16V to Turkey



and Turkey will buy more weapons from Russia

including 2nd batch of S400 with some TOT
maybe later S500

also Russia offers Turkey great opportunities such as Fighter Jets , Jet Engine technology , Submarine and Space technologies also to build 2nd and 3rd Nuclear Power Plant

also 8 millions of Russian Tourists to Turkey per year
and multi-billion Dollars projects for Turkish Construction Companies in Russia

 

[Foinikas]

Chairman of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee Senator Bob Menendez who married an ethnic Armenian lady ( Nadine Arslanian ) always engaged to destroy good ties with Turkey

I know Armenian , Greek , İsraeli lobbies will use anti-Turkey Senator Menendez as a pawn to block sale of F-16V to Turkey



and Turkey will buy more weapons from Russia

including 2nd batch of S400 with some TOT
maybe later S500

also Russia offers Turkey great opportunities such as Fighter Jets , Jet Engine technology , Submarine and Space technologies also to build 2nd and 3rd Nuclear Power Plant

also 8 millions of Russian Tourists to Turkey per year
and multi-billion Dollars projects for Turkish Construction Companies in Russia

Why do you copy/paste your posts most of the time? You said the exact same thing a few pages ago. And besides,Menendez is only stating the logical thing accepted by everyone. If Erdogan,Hakar and Donmez have an erratic and aggressive policy of grabbing the entire region because of the law of the jungle (strongest one takes all),that's their problem. Of course their behavior create problems in the entire region and makes other countries hostile to Turkey. That's why you can't demanding the US or Russia give you stuff when you go against their interests and policies everywhere. It's ridiculous.

 

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If Erdogan,Hakar and Donmez have an erratic and aggressive policy of grabbing the entire region because of the law of the jungle (strongest one takes all),that's their problem.

its your erratic and aggressive policy and the law of the jungle (strongest one takes all),that's your problem

even Greece has no any right in the Eastern Mediterranean by international law


Greek Islands dont have Continental Shelf of 200 nm , only Territorial Water of 6nm
because of Greece is not Island State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc

a tiny Greek Island which is just 10 km2 and 580 km away from Greek Mainland and just 2 km away from Turkish Mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm

so Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland ,, not from every tiny Greek Island




President Erdoğan called on Mediterranean countries to cooperate in finding an acceptable formula that protects the rights of all

President ErdoÄan calls for joint formula to protect rights of all East Med

President Recep Tayyip ErdoÄan on Monday called on Mediterranean countries to cooperate in finding an acceptable formula that protects the rights of...

www.dailysabah.com

but USA-İsrael-France-Greece were allies against Turkey (strongest one takes all ... its your strategy )

Bandit Countries use Greece as a pawn to steal oil/gas reserves and MAVI VATAN from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean


USA-İsrael-France-Germany gives most modern weapons to Greece
on the other hand USA-France-Germany use arms embargo on Turkey
still they blame Turkey why to buy weapons from Russia

what a dirty game

 

[Foinikas]

its your erratic and aggressive policy and the law of the jungle (strongest one takes all),that's your problem
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even Greece has no any right in the Eastern Mediterranean by international law


Greek Islands dont have Continental Shelf of 200 nm , only Territorial Water of 6nm
because of Greece is not Island State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc

a tiny Greek Island which is just 10 km2 and 580 km away from Greek Mainland and just 2 km away from Turkish Mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm

so Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland ,, not from every tiny Greek Island




President Erdoğan called on Mediterranean countries to cooperate in finding an acceptable formula that protects the rights of all

President ErdoÄan calls for joint formula to protect rights of all East Med

President Recep Tayyip ErdoÄan on Monday called on Mediterranean countries to cooperate in finding an acceptable formula that protects the rights of...

www.dailysabah.com

but USA-İsrael-France-Greece were allies against Turkey (strongest one takes all ... its your strategy )

Bandit Countries use Greece as a pawn to steal oil/gas reserves and MAVI VATAN from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean

Have you actually wondered if you're the bandit country and not everyone else? Just a thought. I mean,everyone considers you the culprit but you consider everyone else the bandit country? Really? Greece,Cyprus,Egypt,Israel,Iran,Syria,Armenia,UAE,France,USA,half of Libya and even Russia. But in your mind "no,no it can't be,we are good,they are all bad,they all plot against us,we only protect our rights,no,no they are all wrong,they all hate superpower Turkiye". I think you suffer from an Indian complex.

 

[MH.Yang]

Have you actually wondered if you're the bandit country and not everyone else? Just a thought. I mean,everyone considers you the culprit but you consider everyone else the bandit country? Really? Greece,Cyprus,Egypt,Israel,Iran,Syria,Armenia,UAE,France,USA,half of Libya and even Russia. But in your mind "no,no it can't be,we are good,they are all bad,they all plot against us,we only protect our rights,no,no they are all wrong,they all hate superpower Turkiye". I think you suffer from an Indian complex.

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Turkey is a descendant of the Ottoman and Byzantine empires. Why can't it have the ideal of becoming a superpower?

The world will enter a multipolar era, it needs to be balanced by many powerful countries.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I thought Turkey is under sanction?