Turkey to build first domestic aircraft carrier

[Worf]

On the other hand we could speed this project up by just buying a wasp-class from USMC via FMS channel. It is just one ship.

Do you think T.C. can buy such thing from the U.S.? Recently the congress is blocking military purchases.

 

[mehmeTcc]

then why you guys need LHD?

Turkey has overseas ambitions in Somalia and in Red Sea.

 

[Setting]

Turkey has overseas ambitions in Somalia and in Red Sea.

Turkey has No Work in Arabian Sea and Eastern Africa.

That is Indian Sphere of Influence.

 

[TR.1]

Turkey has No Work in Arabian Sea and Eastern Africa.

That is Indian Sphere of Influence.

Indian sphere influence in East Africa? Never heard of that.


How about we build a naval base in Somalia? I'm sure Somalia will allow it as we helped alot.

 

[Setting]

Indian sphere influence in East Africa? Never heard of that.


How about we build a naval base in Somalia? I'm sure Somalia will allow it as we helped alot.

Indians Control Most Sectors in Many African Countries. We are the Largest Trade Partners of Many Eastern African Nations like Kenya and Largest Investors like Ethiopia.

Indian Navy has Permission to Enter Somalian Territorial Waters apart from USN and French Navy. Does Turkey have that?

Turkish Navy doesn't have a Warship above 4000 Tonnes, No Naval Tradition, No Ocean Going Capability.

 

[Worf]

^
Well you're in a thread called 'Turkey to build first domestic aircraft carrier'; what does that suggest to you?

For me this shows that Turkey is investing to expand the navy's capabilities; for the turkish navy to operate such systems they will require a fleet of destroyers to protect the LHD; and this is when the TF-100's and TF-2000's come in to place; and im pretty sure that they will be above 4000 tonnes.

 

[TR.1]

Indians Control Most Sectors in Many African Countries. We are the Largest Trade Partners of Many Eastern African Nations like Kenya and Largest Investors like Ethiopia.

Indian Navy has Permission to Enter Somalian Territorial Waters apart from USN and French Navy. Does Turkey have that?

Turkish Navy doesn't have a Warship above 4000 Tonnes, No Naval Tradition, No Ocean Going Capability.

No naval tradition? Are you mad? When you was being ruled by Turks in asia we was ruling the Sea, Barbarossa Hayreddin Pasha went down to France to save French king. Our navy defeated a coalition of like 6 countries including one of the strongest countries Spain navy and holy league.

What naval tradition does India have lol.

 

[Surenas]

Indians Control Most Sectors in Many African Countries. We are the Largest Trade Partners of Many Eastern African Nations like Kenya and Largest Investors like Ethiopia.

Indian Navy has Permission to Enter Somalian Territorial Waters apart from USN and French Navy. Does Turkey have that?

Turkish Navy doesn't have a Warship above 4000 Tonnes, No Naval Tradition, No Ocean Going Capability.

Turkey is no match for your navy. You're right.

 

[Worf]

Turkey is no match for your navy. You're right.

We are not comparing the indian navy with turkey's!

the indian navy has more variety; while turkey hasn't got that yet.

 

[TR.1]

The naval Battle of Preveza took place on 28 September 1538 near Preveza in northwestern Greece between an Ottoman fleet and that of a Christian alliance assembled by Pope Paul III.

In 1537, commanding a large Ottoman fleet, Hayreddin Barbarossa captured a number of Aegean and Ionian islands belonging to the Republic of Venice, namely Syros, Aegina, Ios, Paros, Tinos, Karpathos, Kasos and Naxos, thus annexing the Duchy of Naxos to the Ottoman Empire. He then besieged the Venetian stronghold of Corfu and ravaged the Spanish-held Calabrian coast in southern Italy.

In the face of this threat, Pope Paul III succeeded in February 1538 in assembling a ’’Holy League’’, comprising the Papacy, Spain, the Republic of Genoa, the Republic of Venice and the Knights of Malta, to confront Barbarossa.

112 galleys,
50 galleons,
140 barques,
60,000 soldiers.[1][2]122 galleys and galliots,
12,000 soldiers.[1][2]

Ottoman decisive victory

Operations in the Indian Ocean and the final conquests in North Africa

In the meantime, the Ottoman Indian Ocean Fleet, based in Suez and Basra, defeated the Portuguese forces on several occasions near the Arabian peninsula, conquering Aden and Yemen (1538–1539) which were important Portuguese ports, along with Jeddah, Djibouti and Hijaz on the Red Sea coast.

In 1565 the Sultanate of Aceh in Sumatra (Indonesia) declared allegiance to the Ottoman Empire, and in 1569 the Ottoman fleet of Kurtoğlu Hızır Reis sailed to new ports such as Debal, Surat, Janjira and finally set foot on Aceh with a well-equipped fleet of 22 ships, which marked the easternmost Ottoman territorial expansion.

The Ottoman naval victory at the Battle of Preveza in 1538 and the Battle of Djerba in 1560 ensured the Ottoman supremacy in the Mediterranean Sea for several decades, until the Ottomans suffered their first ever military defeat at the hands of the Europeans at the Battle of Lepanto (1571). But the defeat at Lepanto, despite being much celebrated in Europe, was only a temporary setback: it could not reverse the Ottoman conquest of Cyprus, and within a year, the Ottomans built an equally large fleet, which in 1574 conquered Tunisia from Spain. This completed the Ottoman conquest of North Africa, following the operations of the Ottoman fleet under Turgut Reis which had earlier conquered Libya (1551); and of the fleet under Salih Reis which had conquered the coasts of Morocco beyond the Strait of Gibraltar in 1553.

Operations in the Atlantic Ocean

Starting from the early 17th century, the Ottoman fleet began to venture into the Atlantic Ocean (earlier, Kemal Reis had sailed to the Canary Islands in 1501, while the fleet of Murat Reis the Elder had captured Lanzarote of the Canary Islands in 1585).[2] In 1617 the Ottoman fleet captured Madeira in the Atlantic Ocean, before raiding Sussex, Plymouth, Devon, Hartland Point, Cornwall and the other counties of western England in August 1625.[2] In 1627 Ottoman naval ships, accompanied by Barbary corsairs under the leadership of Murat Reis the Younger, captured the Isle of Lundy in the Bristol Channel, which served as the main base for Ottoman naval and privateering operations in the North Atlantic for the next five years.[3] They raided the Shetland Islands, Faroe Islands, Denmark-Norway, Iceland and Vestmannaeyjar.[2][4][5] Between 1627 and 1631 the same Ottoman force also raided the coasts of Ireland and Sweden.[2][6][7] Ottoman ships later appeared off the eastern coasts of North America, particularly being sighted at the English colonies like Newfoundland and Virginia.[2]


Black Sea operations



Before the Ottomans, the Seljuq sultan of Rûm, Alaeddin Keykubad I, had formed a Black Sea fleet based in Sinop, which, under the command of Amir Chupan, had conquered parts of the Crimean peninsula and Sugdak on the Sea of Azov between 1220 and 1237.

In the years following their conquest of Constantinople in 1453, the Ottoman Turks had dominated the Mediterranean with their fleets of galleys. In 1475, the Ottoman sultan Mehmed II employed 380 galleys under the command of Gedik Ahmet Pasha, whose fleet conquered the Greek Principality of Theodoro together with the Genoese-administered Crimean port towns of Cembalo, Soldaia, and Caffa ("Kefe" in Turkic languages.)[8] As a result of these conquests, starting from 1478, the Crimean Khanate became a vassal state and protectorate of the Ottoman Empire, which lasted until 1774.

The failure of the Siege of Malta in 1565 and the victory of the Holy League navies over the Ottomans at the Battle of Lepanto in 1571 indicated that the pendulum was beginning to swing the other way,[9] but the Black Sea was, for a time, regarded as a "Turkish Lake".[10] For over a hundred years Ottoman naval supremacy in the Black Sea rested on three pillars: the Ottoman Turks controlled the Turkish Straits and the mouth of the Danube; none of the states in the region could muster an effective naval force; and the virtual absence of piracy on the Black Sea.

 

[SHAMK9]

Only in PDF it is possible.... A mod trolling.... hey that is pretty shame... Mod should have balanced mind... you are totally opposite to that... never mind.

Try all of the indian defence sites, we have the best mods when it comes to international defence forums.
on topic: great for turkey, hope for more Pak-Turk collaboration in future

 

[Armstrong]

No naval tradition? Are you mad? When you was being ruled by Turks in asia we was ruling the Sea, Barbarossa Hayreddin Pasha went down to France to save French king. Our navy defeated a coalition of like 6 countries including one of the strongest countries Spain navy and holy league.

What naval tradition does India have lol.

Not much to speak off ! Yes we had our navies & our merchant vessels but I can't recall reading anywhere if the Indian subcontinent had any dominant maritime power before or after the Muslim Invasions. The Mughal dynasty or other Central Asian rulers who ruled parts of India were more into arts, culture, trade & architecture than scientific development or military might hence why that decadence & lack of foresight eventually caught up to them & they were out-done by better armed, better prepared & better motivated locals (the Marhattas, the Sikhs, the Pashtuns etc.) or the technologically superior & vastly smarter - the British.

 

[TR.1]

Turkey is no match for your navy. You're right.

did you have a navy or isit blue fancy submarines

 

[Surenas]

did you have a navy or isit blue fancy submarines

Unlike you, we have to prepare a fight with the strongest force on the world: US. No man in Iran is even thinking about Turkey.

 

[TR.1]

Not much to speak off ! Yes we had our navies & our merchant vessels but I can't recall reading anywhere if the Indian subcontinent had any dominant maritime power before or after the Muslim Invasions. The Mughal dynasty or other Central Asian rulers who ruled parts of India were more into arts, culture, trade & architecture than scientific development or military might hence why that decadence & lack of foresight eventually caught up to them & they were out-done by better armed, better prepared & better motivated locals (the Marhattas, the Sikhs, the Pashtuns etc.) or the technologically superior & vastly smarter - the British.

indian guy is questioning our naval tradition , i wonder did he read 2 sentence of history in his life or hes brainwashed by british culture and history because thats their history probably

look what we did to hes loving british

Starting from the early 17th century, the Ottoman fleet began to venture into the Atlantic Ocean (earlier, Kemal Reis had sailed to the Canary Islands in 1501, while the fleet of Murat Reis the Elder had captured Lanzarote of the Canary Islands in 1585).[2] In 1617 the Ottoman fleet captured Madeira in the Atlantic Ocean, before raiding Sussex, Plymouth, Devon, Hartland Point, Cornwall and the other counties of western England in August 1625.[2] In 1627 Ottoman naval ships, accompanied by Barbary corsairs under the leadership of Murat Reis the Younger, captured the Isle of Lundy in the Bristol Channel, which served as the main base for Ottoman naval and privateering operations in the North Atlantic for the next five years.[3] They raided the Shetland Islands, Faroe Islands, Denmark-Norway, Iceland and Vestmannaeyjar.[2][4][5] Between 1627 and 1631 the same Ottoman force also raided the coasts of Ireland and Sweden.[2][6][7] Ottoman ships later appeared off the eastern coasts of North America, particularly being sighted at the English colonies like Newfoundland and Virginia.[2]