Turkey summons German envoy over PKK rally in Cologne

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

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The soveriegnity is the only thing that a state will never give up or share with others; but it seems you accept that Germany bows down to people who promote terrorism along with some other crimes.

The soveriegnity comes with power, so Turks in Germany or Turkey has no power against Germany, but small group of terrorism supporters has against Germany shows Germany very powerful right now, even more than Turks in Germany or Turkey, you the genious!

The sovereignty needs strategy for the sake of a country in future against others, and a strategy needs some tools in various categories for sucess.

Etc...

P.S: The post quoted will most likely be deleted for your pro-PKK language about Turks among Turks in a Turk forum, so no need to share here again, but we hereby discovered your weak point, PKK k.rds.

 

[Mr.Department]

The soveriegnity is the only thing that a state will never give up or share with others; but it seems you accept that Germany bows down to people who promote terrorism along with some other crimes.

The soveriegnity comes with power, so Turks in Germany or Turkey has no power against Germany, but small group of terrorism supporters has against Germany shows Germany very powerful right now, even more than Turks in Germany or Turkey, you the genious!

The sovereignty needs strategy for the sake of a country in future against others, and a strategy needs some tools in various categories for sucess.

Etc...

P.S: The post quoted will most likely be deleted for your pro-PKK language about Turks among Turks in a Turk forum, so no need to share here again, but we hereby discovered your weak point, PKK k.rds.

I think he is at least a symphatisant of them or a Turk/ K.rd, he quoted before a source from netzpolitik.
A blog which is near to Anarchists and was accused before cause high treason in Germany.
His choice of words in his anwers, if German Police is criticized, e.g. " we, ours .." pretend that he is a German or a member of Security Forces. But this only a coverage mask.

 

[cabatli_53]

@Bismarck warning issued.

 

[Bismarck]

I think he is at least a symphatisant of them or a Turk/ K.rd, he quoted before a source from netzpolitik.
A blog which is near to Anarchists and was accused before cause high treason in Germany.
His choice of words in his anwers, if German Police is criticized, e.g. " we, ours .." pretend that he is a German or a member of Security Forces. But this only a coverage mask.

Stop lamenting! Do something. As strange as it reads, but pkk lobbyism and strong organization should show you how propaganda works. Their might influence in our society should be example for you.

Again, stop crying. Do something. Crinying will not change anything. The administration sees it as an insult, me for myself see your weakness (in this issue) as a fact. Atalay know our mentality. Crying brings nothing. Only acting.

Don't get me wrong, but you are a good example of this weakness. Look at you first, what can I do, not what is he doing or where is he. You should tell this yourself. What can I do.

I wanna make a clear statement. I am not your enemy, sometimes discussions with you are interesting.
But you have not the right to insult Turks, this must be clear to you. You are eloquent and I think if you would write in German your eloquency would be more visible to the members. The main point why I criticize you is that you often flee from the battleground, without answering the real point and only answer with counter questions.
Sometimes your sublingual messages and visible disappointment in the messages make me often believe that you are Turk.

I can't give an answer of all your questions. Of course, I can communicate my opinions, but this is not what you what to hear from me. I am not Germany or german government, so what do you really expect from me?

 

[Mr.Department]

Stop lamenting! Do something. As strange as it reads, but pkk lobbyism and strong organization should show you how propaganda works. Their might influence in our society should be example for you.

Again, stop crying. Do something. Crinying will not change anything. The administration sees it as an insult, me for myself see your weakness (in this issue) as a fact. Atalay know our mentality. Crying brings nothing. Only acting.

Don't get me wrong, but you are a good example of this weakness. Look at you first, what can I do, not what is he doing or where is he. You should tell this yourself. What can I do.



I can't give an answer of all your questions. Of course, I can communicate my opinions, but this is not what you what to hear from me. I am not Germany or german government, so what do you really expect from me?

I was not the one who reported you, but for some reason you begged to be reported promoting PKK and using inappropiate language.
The minimum you can do is showing respect,
accepting the hostility and reborn racism in all three powers in Germany.
For sure I know German mentality. They never wanted real integration , they tried to prevent Turks making business, getting good flats and education. All Turkish Governments left the people also alone;
they were pushed in Ghettos and tried to find power and protection there.
Weak educated people fell in the baskets and traps of decadent muslim organizations, this feeded also racist Germans and anti-Turkish lobby. Nobody can delete this bad image in near future.
You can't do anything. I can't do also anything. Threats and and other tools are ineffective, we are not criminal PKK followers.
But there is an effective tool,
if the Turkish Government could motivate ethnic Turkish people to transfer their whole money to Turkey.
Germany would think twice, they understand only the language of profit or misprofit.

 

[Bismarck]

I was not the one who reported you, but for some reason you begged to be reported promoting PKK and using inappropiate language.
The minimum you can do is showing respect,
accepting the hostility and reborn racism in all three powers in Germany.
For sure I know German mentality. They never wanted real integration , they tried to prevent Turks making business, getting good flats and education. All Turkish Governments left the people also alone;
they were pushed in Ghettos and tried to find power and protection there.
Weak educated people fell in the baskets and traps of decadent muslim organizations, this feeded also racist Germans and anti-Turkish lobby. Nobody can delete this bad image in near future.
You can't do anything. I can't do also anything. Threats and and other tools are ineffective, we are not criminal PKK followers.
But there is an effective tool,
if the Turkish Government could motivate ethnic Turkish people to transfer their whole money to Turkey.
Germany would think twice, they understand only the language of profit or misprofit.

I never promote pkk, but it would be ignorant and negligently not show the facts. Yes, the rising or reborn of rasicm is a fact, but not in Germany only. And yes, they stared to late (mid 90') to integrate the Turks. And many facts that you mentioned can't be change in a short run, but of course in a long term. To think you can't change anything is wrong an a form of capitulation which nobody should do. You talk about education. This is they key of everything here. This will open (nearly) every door. Organize is a second step and of course integration. Don't tell me you can do nothing. There are many things you can do. You just need the will.

Btw, you promote your image. Think about it.

 

[Mr.Department]

Think about it.

Too late. But, God sake, " Ich habe eine saubere Weste ".

 

[Bismarck]

Too late. But, God sake, " Ich habe eine saubere Weste ".

I don't mean you personally I mean Turks in Germany. Your vests is cleans as snow.

 

[Mr.Department]

@Bismarck

I discussed today with some friends your complaints.

Some hints what they will try to do in future

All plans are based on Turkish Republics principles ( Atatürk's call to youth)

1. Turkish Sport Clubs +
2. Educational institutions ( joined to the clubs), with low payment contribution ( Nachhilfe) +
3. Free lawyers ( for members who pay a low contribution- comparable to Rechtschutz -) +
4. Turkish Universities comparable to Witten University or FOM Essen, donate financed +
5. Better and modern consular services, with in Germany educated personal.
6. Modern, voluntary religious courses- with secular teachers - but without - insulting Islam !

Turkish legal finance Funds to attract people to INVEST in Türkiye and TURQUALITY.


The only Turkish INSITUTION who cares for you is up to now only DITIB and they only carry your dead corp to TURKEY !

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Some sources

http://www.badische-zeitung.de/nach...ost-ueber-kurdenfest-in-koeln--142026099.html

http://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/i...gan.d69afd3a-1ca3-4cab-b486-4f804aaee5dc.html

 

[Adıvar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/772180624782295040

CHP'nin Almanya'da PKK'yı desteklediğine dair resimde bir ayrıntı göremedim. Siz görebildiniz mi?

 

[Mr.Department]

CHP'nin Almanya'da PKK'yı desteklediğine dair resimde bir ayrıntı göremedim. Siz görebildiniz mi?

Yok. ADD de katilmaz.

 

[what]

The Interior Ministry has critiziced the police for not confiscating the Öcalan flags and police has defended itself because only one kind of flag with his face was banned according to them.

The ministry will now expand the ban, to make it clearer for law enforcement.

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Just thought you might be interested.

 

[Mr.Department]

The Interior Ministry has critiziced the police for not confiscating the Öcalan flags and police has defended itself because only one kind of flag with his face was banned according to them.

The ministry will now expand the ban, to make it clearer for law enforcement.

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Just thought you might be interested.

BS- Öcalan posters on white background will kept allowed.

 

[what]

BS- Öcalan posters on white background will kept allowed.

http://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/rheinland/oecalan-symbole-koeln-100.html

The ministy wants to change it.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

The Germans are digging their own graves by spoiling these PKK brats.

You think the Turks are bad? Wait until you see the wrath of these militant Kurds start not seeing eye-to-eye with the German authorities.