Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

after Assad defeated, deal should be made between ISIS and Arab-West coalition right ?

Rise and fall are in our DNA. The Ottoman Empire fell after WW1, now it's time to rise again. BD folks should know it very well for Bengal was conquered by 17 (yes, only seventeen) horsemen led by a Turk. Kutubuddin Aybek, a Turk, set 7 centuries of Turkic rule of Hindistan. This is how Allah u Azimusshan has programmed us..

 

[Nilgiri]

The Ottoman Empire fell after WW1, now it's time to rise again.

You are going to be in for a very rude, somber shock. Just watch the next few weeks and months as Russia selectively and comprehensively eradicates Turkmen forces in Syria.

 

[TopCat]

Rise and fall are in our DNA. The Ottoman Empire fell after WW1, now it's time to rise again. BD folks should know it very well for Bengal was conquered by 17 (yes, only seventeen) horsemen led by a Turk. Kutubuddin Aybek, a Turk, set 7 centuries of Turkic rule of Hindistan. This is how Allah u Azimusshan has programmed us..

Unfortunately those brave men never returned to Turkey and their descendant still roam in Hindustan. Do you want us to send them back to you in the form of ISIS or Al-Nusra with a suicide belt..

 

[Sipahi]

Between May 1986 and November 1988, PAF F-16s have shot down at least eight intruders from Afghanistan. The first three of these (one Su-22, one probable Su-22, and one An-26) were shot down by two pilots from No. 9 Squadron. Pilots of No. 14 Squadron destroyed the remaining five intruders (two Su-22s, two MiG-23s, and one Su-25).

I don't think Russia is going to invade Turkey for that !!!!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

You are going to be in for a very rude, somber shock. Just watch the next few weeks and months as Russia selectively and comprehensively eradicates Turkmen forces in Syria.

As far as I know Russian warplanes are called flying coffins or weadow makers in India so much so that you have fighter to pilot ratio of 0.8. Your defense analysts are also very critical of Russian equipment. Men fight with their faith not equipment. World history is full of such examples. You may call it Karma..

Unfortunately those brave men never returned to Turkey and their descendant still roam in Hindustan. Do you want us to send them back to you in the form of ISIS or Al-Nusra with a suicide belt..

You never built any empire. You won't understand this. It's not a matter of ridicule.

 

[BDforever]

Rise and fall are in our DNA. The Ottoman Empire fell after WW1, now it's time to rise again. BD folks should know it very well for Bengal was conquered by 17 (yes, only seventeen) horsemen led by a Turk. Kutubuddin Aybek, a Turk, set 7 centuries of Turkic rule of Hindistan. This is how Allah u Azimusshan has programmed us..

oye careful about giving history lesson. The man who conquered Bengal was Ikhtiyar ad-Din Muhammad bin Bakhtiyar Khilji. and for your more info.
1. half of Bengal was actually jungle.
2. Almost all Bengal peoples were agricultural and business people, not warmongers like Turks that time

 

[Nilgiri]

As far as I know Russian warplanes are called flying coffins or weadow makers in India so much so that you have fighter to pilot ratio of 0.8.

One particular model yes, as it was nearing the end of its service life after having logged more hours per plane than it should have.

Nothing to do with it being Russian....since plenty of other Russian a/c today are operating very well within the doctrine of the IAF (check up on Su-30 MKI)

Your defense analysts are also very critical of Russian equipment.

Various analysts are critical of all equipment from whichever country. There are pros and cons for every decision. The Indian-Russian defence ties are still extremely strong today.

Men fight with their faith not equipment.

Lets see if that faith comes in handy for the rag tag Turkmens in the next few weeks.

World history is full of such examples. You may call it Karma..

The Ottoman empire will never return....and Turkey will be comprehensively defeated and destroyed if it attempts it.

Stay secular and stay in Anatolia....and play your games with the Kurds and hate story with the Greeks and Armenians. Beyond that you have no geopolitical leverage....definitely none to take on Russia 1 on 1....much less re-conquer the former Ottoman lands.

Turkey if its smart, will use what Russia does in Syria over the coming months as a learning experience as to what strategy entails....and why tactical skirmishes may sometimes be set up with that strategy in mind. If Turkey refuses to learn that and decides to escalate or respond immaturely, Turkey is going to be facing a lot of trouble in short order.

You are not getting Karma on anyone because of the Ottoman breakup....not without destroying Turkey itself. Let bygones be bygones, be content with what you have, play your cards wisely... and look to the future rationally and pragmatically....rather than drawing blindly on faith.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Between May 1986 and November 1988, PAF F-16s have shot down at least eight intruders from Afghanistan. The first three of these (one Su-22, one probable Su-22, and one An-26) were shot down by two pilots from No. 9 Squadron. Pilots of No. 14 Squadron destroyed the remaining five intruders (two Su-22s, two MiG-23s, and one Su-25).

I don't think Russia is going to invade Turkey for that !!!!

The last time they invaded Bolshevik Revolution ocurred.

 

[TopCat]

You never built any empire. You won't understand this. It's not a matter of ridicule.

Indian Empire itself was 1/3 of the entire World of that time.. Did we need any more? Now stop flattering yourself only because we admire Muslim armies of those days which actually is of ours..

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

One particular model yes, as it was nearing the end of its service life after having logged more hours per plane than it should have.

Nothing to do with it being Russian....since plenty of other Russian a/c today are operating very well within the doctrine of the IAF (check up on Su-30 MKI)



Various analysts are critical of all equipment from whichever country. There are pros and cons for every decision. The Indian-Russian defence ties are still extremely strong today.



Lets see if that faith comes in handy for the rag tag Turkmens in the next few weeks.



The Ottoman empire will never return....and Turkey will be comprehensively defeated and destroyed if it attempts it.

Stay secular and stay in Anatolia....and play your games with the Kurds and hate story with the Greeks and Armenians. Beyond that you have no geopolitical leverage....definitely none to take on Russia 1 on 1....much less re-conquer the former Ottoman lands.

Turkey if its smart, will use what Russia does in Syria over the coming months as a learning experience as to what strategy entails....and why tactical skirmishes may sometimes be set up with that strategy in mind. If Turkey refuses to learn that and decides to escalate or respond immaturely, Turkey is going to be facing a lot of trouble in short order.

You are not getting Karma on anyone because of the Ottoman breakup....not without destroying Turkey itself. Let bygones be bygones, be content with what you have, play your cards wisely... and look to the future rationally and pragmatically....rather than drawing blindly on faith.

Let's wait and see. A man of faith destroyed 5 of your aircrafts in 40 seconds, and a rag tag faith based force of "dudes in bedsheets" defeated USSR. So, don't say faith doesn't work. It works but most of the people don't want to understand it.

 

[batmannow]

What a serious Institute , two containers and a good website. Look in Google Street View !

It not matters to exepress their views on the news that must have a million dollar state & a stalitle like CNN to produce lies for the govt mistakes ?
With internet getting bigger & stronger many news web sites just need a container a normal site studio to be on air , & up load it on youtuebe ?
Just like stupid ISIS terrorists using it ?

 

[Nilgiri]

A man of faith destroyed 5 of your aircrafts in 40 seconds,

And that same man's country got broken up in the end....with 90,000 of his fellow faithful surrendering in less than 2 weeks of war.

Faith works both ways you see. Both sides have it. The one that prevails is the one that is better prepared, led, managed and equipped....and able to harness ground realities better.

Thats why Ottoman empire will never exist again.....something true of empires in general. Modern day world is too different now.

 

[cirr]

Im sure China would provide funds support to Russia, but only when fire into Russian lands China will send military force with Russia together. Don't forget we have SCO.

China

It is already exactly known that Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down over the territory of Syria by a Turkish fighter. Turkish fighter at that time was also over the territory of Syria. The crew of the Su-24 did not expect the attack and was not warned. One of the pilots was killed after ejection in the air from the ground by mujahideen. The second pilot was rescued, with the support of the Syrian army.
Turks after the attack behaved like cowardly jackals. Instead of a direct dialogue with Russia, rushed to hide behind the NATO. Thus Turkey from supporting terrorists in Syria, without declaring war, moved to direct combat provocations against Russia on the side of the terrorists.
Current Russian military action against Turkey:
All contacts with Turkey on military lines will be discontinued.
All targets that represent a potential danger for the Russian forces over Syria will be downed. The corresponding order was given cruiser Moskva. В Генштабе рассказали об ответных мерах на сбитый Турцией Су-24
Economic measures are being addressed.
I think it would be right to arm Kurds with modern air defense weapons.
Turkey is certainly more to lose from this provocation, than gain. And the benefits from this provocation are only to United States.
Video from the side of Syrian Army of downed aircraft and rescue mission.

I say BOMB the crap out of all the terrorists groups that Turkey support covertly and covetly。

Arm all the groups，especially the Kurds，that Turkey brutely oppresses。

China should write a blank cheque for Russia。

 

[batmannow]

It's useless to treat the symptoms without curing the disease. Assad and Mullah terrorists are the main reasons for ISIS' existence, they must be wiped off the map before firing a single bullet at ISIS terrorists.

Wow , sure cause its Assad forces which went to bomb & on a terrorist attacks in Paris or all over the world ?
Is ISIS is the name of asaad govt ?
Or you are a sympathetic to ISIS ?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

oye careful about giving history lesson. The man who conquered Bengal was Ikhtiyar ad-Din Muhammad bin Bakhtiyar Khilji. and for your more info.

1. half of Bengal was actually jungle.
2. Almost all Bengal peoples were agricultural and business people, not warmongers like Turks that time

He was a Turk general in the Army of Kutubuddin Aybek. Please do Google search. We are the Empire builders. It's as per the Divine Plan. It's not in our hands. Good to be agricultural and business people, but how is it like falling to 200 British + 2800 native Indian soldiers under the command of a drunk clerk of the East India Company while 70 thousand forces stood still? Not a shred of honor? According to your historians, if everybody picked up a stone, the British would have been long gone!! This is beyond me. Maybe we Turks are too naive!! We have lost many wars but not in this fashion!!