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Turkey Seeks U.S. Patriot Missiles to Deter Russia in Syria

people mostly forget about Syrian official government in their arguments...
It's because they're irrelevant to the conversation. Assad and his soldiers are nothing more than puppets of Russia and Iran.

Assad could die tomorrow, and nothing would actually change on a practical level.
 
same thing applies to S-400s, right now you can't use S-400s against your biggest problems in Syria, that is just the reality of relying on foreign countries for weapons.
Lets be honest here, Greece or France are not really issues to Turkey, Egypt may be a rising issue, but US will definitely back a NATO country against Egypt, US even blocked sales of French cruise missiles to Egypt.

I remind you again , Turkiye wants to buy PATRIOT from the US since 2013 but the US did not sell PATRIOT to Turkiye

even Turkiye cancelled buying HQ-9 Air Defense System from China , still the US did not sell PATRIOT to Turkiye

therefore Turkiye bought S400 from Russia because of Turkiye has no any Air Defense System
even poor Greece has PATRIOT and S300

and our biggest problems in Syria were with the US who used Pkk/Ypg terrorists to create terror corridor in N.Syria against Turkiye

Russia has no power to force Turkish Army to leave Idlib and Syria
over 3400 Turkish Tanks,Howitzers,MLRS,AFVs,IFVs enetered Idlib in the last 20 days
Turkish Army-Airforce can burn not only Idlib but also whole Syria
problem is there are very strategic projects with Russia like AKKUYU Nuclear Power Plant , TURKSTREAM gas pipeline , S400 ......... but if Russia start a war with Turkiye , then nobody will care about strategic projects and Turkish Armed Forces will fight Russia in Syria because of we never allow bandit countries to create Pkk/Ypg terror state in Syria for destroying Turkiye's territorial integrity



Greece and France wants to steal oil-gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean
and now French Aircraft Carrier - Frigates are in S.Cyprus against Turkiye
Greece are waiting for France to attack Turkiye

the US-Israel-S.Arabia supported SISI to make military coup for destroying good relationship between Turkiye and Egypt

now they use SISI's Egypt as a pawn against Turkiye in the Eastern Mediterranean and Libya
 
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It's because they're irrelevant to the conversation. Assad and his soldiers are nothing more than puppets of Russia and Iran.

Assad could die tomorrow, and nothing would actually change on a practical level.

Asadists criminal army forced to flee more than 10 million Syrian opposition people out of the country. At present, They want to force another 2-3 million opposition to die or flee in Idlib. They have already killed hundred of thousands in all around the country. This country had just 16-17 million total population before Asad started to bully them. At the end of the day, Asad seperated the country into many pieces While he was being busy to strenghten his bloody tyrany against the wishes of majority of own population. Even in this condition, Some people expect others to obey Asad’s bloody rules. What a joke ! After this period end, I believe Assad will live his worst days until he gave his last breath. Not important How long he is going to hide himself behind the Russia like a aimless dog.
 
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Turkey has so many indigenous air defence systems under various stages of development. Why not put them to use instead of begging USA ? No confidence in own weapons?

They are at the end of their development stage. This year, Two of them passed/will pass into serial production and long range will pass into production by 2022/23. Hisar-A will be delivered in this year.
 
Asadists criminal army forced to flee more than 10 million Syrian opposition people out of the country. At present, They want to force another 2-3 million opposition to die or flee in Idlib. They have already killed hundred of thousands in all around the country. This country had just 16-17 million total population before Asad started to bully them. At the end of the day, Asad seperated the country into many pieces While he was being busy to strenghten his bloody tyrany against the wishes of majority of own population. Even in this condition, Some people expect others to obey Asad’s bloody rules. What a joke ! After this period end, I believe Assad will live his worst days until he gave his last breath. Not important How long he is going to hide himself behind the Russia like a aimless dog.
get out of here with your fake stats. you and @500 should work together on your fake stats.

You still cant show any hard evidence to support your lofty and HYPOTHETICAL numbers of civilian deaths.

Btw, Assad's army wasnt fighting ghosts when 10M civilians left Syria. Assad's army was fighting the terrorists your country, on behalf of NATO, was injecting into Syria, so you could change Syria's leadership by proxy....but it failed. Oh well now you have to face nuclear Russia. We will know for sure very soon whether your country has the military balls and smarts it claims to have.
 
RELIABILITY.
get out of here with your fake stats. you and @500 should work together on your fake stats.

You still cant show any hard evidence to support your lofty and HYPOTHETICAL numbers of civilian deaths.

Btw, Assad's army wasnt fighting ghosts when 10M civilians left Syria. Assad's army was fighting the terrorists your country, on behalf of NATO, was injecting into Syria, so you could change Syria's leadership by proxy....but it failed. Oh well now you have to face nuclear Russia. We will know for sure very soon whether your country has the military balls and smarts it claims to have.

These responses are your individual method of making you feel better. Reaching these statics are not a rocket science. Open source have the number of refugees that neigbhour countries hosts. Collect them and see with your own eyes but as long as you want to believe on your back as a source, noone can help you so stop selling your sectarian hot air.
 
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Does anyone know if the Patriots have been recieved by the turkish army? Theres been conflicting news and rumours. Does anyone have any reliable updates?
 
Asadists criminal army forced to flee more than 10 million Syrian opposition people out of the country. At present, They want to force another 2-3 million opposition to die or flee in Idlib. They have already killed hundred of thousands in all around the country. This country had just 16-17 million total population before Asad started to bully them. At the end of the day, Asad seperated the country into many pieces While he was being busy to strenghten his bloody tyrany against the wishes of majority of own population. Even in this condition, Some people expect others to obey Asad’s bloody rules. What a joke ! After this period end, I believe Assad will live his worst days until he gave his last breath. Not important How long he is going to hide himself behind the Russia like a aimless dog.
While the humanitarian motivations of Turkey are justifiable or debatable may be secondary to the obvious miscalculation of thinking Russia will sit easy when its primary foothold in the middle east is under threat.

The Turkish forces went in there without a tacit understanding of what Russian response would be and without the ability to provide effective air coverage for their operations.
 
While the humanitarian motivations of Turkey are justifiable or debatable may be secondary to the obvious miscalculation of thinking Russia will sit easy when its primary foothold in the middle east is under threat.

The Turkish forces went in there without a tacit understanding of what Russian response would be and without the ability to provide effective air coverage for their operations.

That is indeed what we are criticizing but It seems Russia and Turkiye reached some kind of agreement even if last incidents happened. Russian delegation is coming to Turkey to talk about likely solution to prevent risk of a clash next days. Turkey told Russia that Turkish troops will not get back from the zones they are stationed in Idlib.
 
This is Russian tactic from Chechen Wars ..... to bomb everywhere , to kill everyone





Assad Regime and Iran backed terrorist groups also can not take Idlib .... Russian Airstrikes can not take Idlib
Assad Regime should win battle on the ground

all towns and Idlib are in the range of Turkish heavy artillery precision strikes
Assad Regime and Iran backed terrorist groups will be sended directly to hell by the Turkish heavy artillery precision strikes


so Russia control sky and Turkiye control the ground
 
get out of here with your fake stats. you and @500 should work together on your fake stats.

You still cant show any hard evidence to support your lofty and HYPOTHETICAL numbers of civilian deaths.

Btw, Assad's army wasnt fighting ghosts when 10M civilians left Syria. Assad's army was fighting the terrorists your country, on behalf of NATO, was injecting into Syria, so you could change Syria's leadership by proxy....but it failed. Oh well now you have to face nuclear Russia. We will know for sure very soon whether your country has the military balls and smarts it claims to have.
Name me any other country that displaced more than half of its own population. You are a sick person who is justifying genocide, nothing else.
 

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