Turkey, Pakistan Seek Better Ties; But Lacks Funds

[T-123456]

But the question here is this that if Pak becomes a rich country then will it need Turkey or it will initiate its own projects in different walks of life using its own indiginous industry!!!!

So the two countries cant work together if Pakistan becomes rich?
Are you drunk or high or do you have something against Turkish/Pakistan friendship?

 

[Salahuddin_ayyubi]

So the two countries cant work together if Pakistan becomes rich?
Are you drunk or high or do you have something against Turkish/Pakistan friendship?

There are some peoples who make fake ids and posts against Pakistan and Pakistan's Friend Countries..!

 

[T-123456]

There are some peoples who make fake ids and posts against Pakistan and Pakistan's Friend Countries..!

No,he has more then 1275 posts so either drunk high or imposter.

 

[MadDog]

So the two countries cant work together if Pakistan becomes rich?
Are you drunk or high or do you have something against Turkish/Pakistan friendship?

Bro, don't worry about such people, Pak-Turk relationship transcends the creation of two countries, when volunteers from this part of the world went on horseback to Turkey to support the Ottomans in WWI and later in the Turkish war of independence. Same kind of support came from the Turkish side, during 2005 Pakistan earthquake and 2010 floods...so this relationship is really deep. Pakistan spends $ 6-7 billion on defence, surely they can allocate it for Turkish products. I was hoping that Pak would go for Turkish MRAP in these previous IDEAS 2012 exhibition but they chose the Chinese one. Hopefully the defence relationship will further develop.

 

[T-123456]

Bro, don't worry about such people, Pak-Turk relationship transcends the creation of two countries, when volunteers from this part of the world went on horseback to Turkey to support the Ottomans in WWI and later in the Turkish war of independence. Same kind of support came from the Turkish side, during 2005 Pakistan earthquake and 2010 floods...so this relationship is really deep. Pakistan spends $ 6-7 billion on defence, surely they can allocate it for Turkish products. I was hoping that Pak would go for Turkish MRAP in these previous IDEAS 2012 exhibition but they chose the Chinese one. Hopefully the defence relationship will further develop.

No need to do bussiness,the brotherhood is enough.
You build from the east we build from the west,in the end we will both be there.

 

[Salahuddin_ayyubi]

No need to do bussiness,the brotherhood is enough.
You build from the east we build from the west,in the end we will both be there.

That's should be the spirit...!

 

[VelocuR]

We got tired of hearing same about Turkey, they telling us to buy their products (i.e helicopter), they told us to get rid of poor leadership and internal matters. Turkey is pushing Pakistan to purchase their products and upgrading F-16s with US permissions. And they told us Pakistan has long way to go. Hardly we see Turkey brought any Pakistan's military products in good gestures.

IMO, Turkey is just fake and doing its own best interest under West/NATO members. Turkey complain lack of funds $$$$ from Pakistan side while China didn't complain.

Turkish RPP firm to sue Pakistan at US arbitration court


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[SEAL]

We got tired of hearing same about Turkey, they telling us to buy their products (i.e helicopter), they told us to get rid of poor leadership and internal matters. Turkey is pushing Pakistan to purchase their products and upgrading F-16s with US permissions. And they told us Pakistan has long way to go. Hardly we see Turkey brought any Pakistan's military products in good gestures.

IMO, Turkey is just fake and doing its own best interest under West/NATO members. Turkey complain lack of funds $$$$ from Pakistan side while China didn't complain.

Turkish RPP firm to sue Pakistan at US arbitration court


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I don't know in which context you are complaining they have right to market their products and we have to follow their approach. The problem is in Pakistan there is no transparency of defense budget.
Below is an example of Turkish defense projects and budget allocation in Turkish Lira. Have you seen anything like this from Pakistani government or military? I am ashamed we are fighting a bloody war and our forces don't even have a single long range endurance UAV and MRAP's.

- 494,18 mln (Tank development budget)
- 1.221 mln (Milgem serial production + Feasibility research for indigenous submarine development)
- 338 mln (general purpose helicopter + Atack helicopter + design of indigenous light general purpose helicopter)
- 1.163 mln (TX and FX concept design + Hurkus serial production)
- 193,7 mln (tactical UAV + ANKA serial production)
- 1.395 mln (guided missile developments: UMTAS, OMTAS, CIRIT serial prod., short and medium range airdefence systems)
- 193,8 mln (SAR sattelite development)
- 0 (phased radar development)
- 494,2 mln (diesel powerpack family development: engine + transmission)
- 552,3 mln (Turbo jet engine prototype design)

 

[mehmeTcc]

We got tired of hearing same about Turkey, they telling us to buy their products (i.e helicopter), they told us to get rid of poor leadership and internal matters. Turkey is pushing Pakistan to purchase their products and upgrading F-16s with US permissions. And they told us Pakistan has long way to go. Hardly we see Turkey brought any Pakistan's military products in good gestures.

IMO, Turkey is just fake and doing its own best interest under West/NATO members. Turkey complain lack of funds $$$$ from Pakistan side while China didn't complain.

Turkish RPP firm to sue Pakistan at US arbitration court


$$$

Lol, Turkey is bad because it cares about its own interests right?

What a moron you are.

 

[eagleeye]

this is a private civil company . you can not condemn them for that. if they think that they are right. They have the right to call the court.

 

[revojam]

Guys this guy (RaptorRX707) is very Pro-Russian(hes probably an indian troll) and one of the biggest Turk haters in this forum.Lately he was staying away from the Turkish section after Deno became a mod but before he was always trolling Turkish Section with stupid ideas like "Russia will nuke Istanbul , Russian bear come down from North and crush you ... Turks) so you guys make the math.Dont take his single post seriously specially when it comes to Turks/Turkiye , he is nothing more than a hardcore troll.

 

[VelocuR]

Well, Pakistan authorities doesn't publish the details of defence projects, it is due to security reasons and we doesn't want to let enemy know of our defence projects. Pakistan Military believe to show surprises, Turkey tend to show exposure. Did Turkey come to rescue Pakistan on War on Terror last ten years, I see nothing but $$$.

I don't know in which context you are complaining they have right to market their products and we have to follow their approach. The problem is in Pakistan there is no transparency of defense budget.
Below is an example of Turkish defense projects and budget allocation in Turkish Lira. Have you seen anything like this from Pakistani government or military? I am ashamed we are fighting a bloody war and our forces don't even have a single long range endurance UAV and MRAP's.

- 494,18 mln (Tank development budget)
- 1.221 mln (Milgem serial production + Feasibility research for indigenous submarine development)
- 338 mln (general purpose helicopter + Atack helicopter + design of indigenous light general purpose helicopter)
- 1.163 mln (TX and FX concept design + Hurkus serial production)
- 193,7 mln (tactical UAV + ANKA serial production)
- 1.395 mln (guided missile developments: UMTAS, OMTAS, CIRIT serial prod., short and medium range airdefence systems)
- 193,8 mln (SAR sattelite development)
- 0 (phased radar development)
- 494,2 mln (diesel powerpack family development: engine + transmission)
- 552,3 mln (Turbo jet engine prototype design)

this is a private civil company . you can not condemn them for that. if they think that they are right. They have the right to call the court.

Many Turks call us brotherhood but sue us, hopefully Pakistan will sue Turkish firm soon to Pakistani court.

Guys this guy (RaptorRX707) is very Pro-Russian(hes probably an indian troll) and one of the biggest Turk haters in this forum.Lately he was staying away from the Turkish section after Deno became a mod but before he was always trolling Turkish Section with stupid ideas like "Russia will nuke Istanbul , Russian bear come down from North and crush you ... Turks) so you guys make the math.Dont take his single post seriously specially when it comes to Turks/Turkiye , he is nothing more than a hardcore troll.

It has nothing to do with trollings or being Indian. Some bashing is on Turkey, you would say hardcare trolling that make you happy. Just saying, Turkey is working hard to please West and support them during Libya/Syria in any costs under the pretext of brotherhood, Pakistan is not pleased with it. And next we see Turks insulting China one of Pakistan's ally, it would send clear message to us in understanding of Turks mindsets. No further I could make more comments.

Turkey is no different than Iraq or Iran in similar manners. Turkey friendships with Pakistan is all about money making profits they push. Lack of funds $$$, so now we stop process of the relations. Thanks.

 

[Rahil khan]

Can you tell me any country who has got relations with another country without some benefits or interest. Do you think China is our only major ally today without any interest or without any benefit. Its always the mutual interest which is the criteria of bringing two nations closer. Once upon a time USA used to think about Pakistan as a major ally against the spread of communism or socialist nations. So we enjoyed the best military hardware like F-103s, Sabres, Tanks, ships etc etc. We even became the only country after Israel who acquired F-16s because we were engaging Russians in Afghanistan. Same is the case here with China. Pakistan was helpful to china in terms of getting rid of its isolation at the height of cold war era. Still today its in the vital interest of both the countries to have good, friendly, smooth relations due to the strategic and geo political situation. My point is that if a country like China is friend to Pakistan due to mutual interests, than what and why the hell you are blaming and accusing Turkey for??? I know there is no place of emotions in international relations, but you should have read the newspapers during the catastrophic earthquake of 8th October 2005, when our Turkish brothers and sisters helped Pakistanis with everything possible...even with the jewelery...You should have watched the address of Turkish Prime Minister Mr Tayeb Erdogan to a joint session of our Parliament in Islamabad. Can't say about you anything, but when i saw his address, emotions set in definitely. Just read Turkish Prime Minister's address and observe yourself.
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[Edevelop]

I think the trade has increased to $2 billion. I hope we push it even further.

 

[jupiter2007]

It's good if you do, but the cobra's are coming free of cost, why change that...

Nothing is coming without a cost.... Nothing is free in this world don't you know that?