Chogy
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This point by point argument is getting tedious. You truly do not understand the concept of "evading missiles." And conveniently, you never actually answered the question.
Can you, will you, be able to visually acquire a modern AA missile? If you think this is easy, common, or something practiced by fighters, then you are being naive. At typical BVR distances, the maneuvering done is not against the missile, it is against the illuminating/tracking aircraft that is launching the missile. And the best you are going to be able to do is perhaps take the attacker into and through your 3/9 line, change altitudes, perhaps, drop a bit of chaff, and then make a decision to drag out or pitch back in.
I lived and breathed Air to air attack and defense for many years. I know what these systems can, and cannot, do.
Do you have any idea how much fuel is consumed, how long it takes, to accelerate above mach 1.6? Contrary to internet rumors, movies, and other unreliable sources, the mach 2 regime is rarely seen, or needed. Transonic is where the bulk of the flight takes place. Turn rate, radius, begin to suck mightily above mach 1.2 or so.
In the end, it boils down to this... you believe you are smarter than the thousands of aerospace engineers who designed the F-35... if this fantasy makes you feel better, go for it. I know what the jet can do, and there's a lot none of us know about. It will be an extremely capable fighter.
Can you, will you, be able to visually acquire a modern AA missile? If you think this is easy, common, or something practiced by fighters, then you are being naive. At typical BVR distances, the maneuvering done is not against the missile, it is against the illuminating/tracking aircraft that is launching the missile. And the best you are going to be able to do is perhaps take the attacker into and through your 3/9 line, change altitudes, perhaps, drop a bit of chaff, and then make a decision to drag out or pitch back in.
I lived and breathed Air to air attack and defense for many years. I know what these systems can, and cannot, do.
Besides, the F-35 has a top speed of Mach 1.67. That's way too slow.
Do you have any idea how much fuel is consumed, how long it takes, to accelerate above mach 1.6? Contrary to internet rumors, movies, and other unreliable sources, the mach 2 regime is rarely seen, or needed. Transonic is where the bulk of the flight takes place. Turn rate, radius, begin to suck mightily above mach 1.2 or so.
In the end, it boils down to this... you believe you are smarter than the thousands of aerospace engineers who designed the F-35... if this fantasy makes you feel better, go for it. I know what the jet can do, and there's a lot none of us know about. It will be an extremely capable fighter.