To my Iranian friends denying that Sejil was built without Pakistani help

[PakistaniandProud]

I read the Missile power thread and I've come across some posts stating that Sejil was built by Iran solely alone


Here is an american source claiming otherwise

The Emet Report

 

[RayKalm]

Thank you for posting this, PakistaniandProud. I was away for a day, and Posedian and Arian trumped me with insults.

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

Does being American (if you read it, it appears to actually be Israeli) make a source authentic?

 

[Arian]

I read the Missile power thread and I've come across some posts stating that Sejil was built by Iran solely alone


Here is an american source claiming otherwise

The Emet Report

Why should I believe the source? I could build a new page and claim that Iran is helping Pakistan to build Shaheen III, does that make my claim verified? There's very little evidence that Pakistan has helped Iran in soild fuel technology.
And half of the article you have posted is very biased. But anyway, if Pakistan has helped Iran, then good for Iran, and thanks to Pakistan.

Thank you for posting this, PakistaniandProud. I was away for a day, and Posedian and Arian trumped me with insults.

Where did I insult you RayKalm? and how did I insult you?

I just cast doubt on your knowledge of missiles, because of your first post on the topic. Ain't I?

 

[lem34]

I hope it is true that Iran Pakistan are cooperating in these things. That is a cause for celebration not fighting lol

Where did I insult you RayKalm? and how did I insult you?

I just cast doubt on your knowledge of missiles, because of your first post on the topic. Ain't I?

Raykalm this is correct. Arian in my opinion did not not insult you it was I think some other guy whose name I cant remember

 

[Amolthebest]

But why Pakistani member questioning Muslim Iran's capabilities. Muslim brotherhood anyone?

 

[Hack-Hook]

honestly there is no source for the article , they only say Israel believe ... , well israel may believe anything but don't forget we were producing solid fuel missile from 1987 (mushak missile) while Pakistan made hatif-1 in 1989 .(hatif-1 had 70km of range while our mushak had 160km of range) .in 1990 zelzal with 150 km of range in 1993 we had zelzal-3 with 250km of range in 2002 fath-110 and in 2008 we had ashura and sejjil , if you look till 2002 we increase the payload of the missile and in 2002 we increased the precision and then we increased the range . iit was a stage to stage program that begin before Pakistan start making solid fuel missiles.

that article suggest North Korea as supplier is a little strange because they don't have a solid fuel missile ,and honestly Russia never sold us any ballistic missile related technology we even get scud-b from Libya and N. Korea.

by the way I can't understand why people always want to find any relation between to unrelated thing .Pakistan missile program and Iranian one has no connection to each other.

 

[manojb]

I m tellig yo'll israel gets comission for keeping oil prices high..

 

[lem34]

I think there is a lesson here for us. I do not know if there is any accuracy in these reports of collusion by Iran and Pakistan.

However Israel has killed Iranian nationals. They assisted Indian's in Kargill and our nationals were killed. Israel is therefore clearly an enemy of both countries.

It is our enemies nightmare that Pakistan and Iran share or cooperate in defense. Is it not logical and rational for both countries to cooperate even if not openly certainly behind closed doors. I mean if it was in my hands I would make sure that this was a priority.

Instead here we are trying to explain our prowess in relationship to each other?? Why? Iran and Pakistan will at worst stay neutral towards each other. No one in either country could dream of war between the two.

Both countries are not and have not the most modern cutting edge equipment. Why should we not work together??

by the way I can't understand why people always want to find any relation between to unrelated thing .Pakistan missile program and Iranian one has no connection to each other.

Because that is our enemies nightmare. We would be stupid not to.

 

[curioususer]

so when it suits your interests, you'd fall to the level of believing and american and israeli sources.

 

[lem34]

so when it suits your interests, you'd fall to the level of believing and american and israeli sources.

We don't care if its true or not. But it would be sensible for both countries. I mean if it's not obvious even enemies of both countries expect it and worry about it

 

[SOHEIL]

OH !

stop this useless discussion

 

[curioususer]

We don't care if its true or not. But it would be sensible for both countries. I mean if it's not obvious even enemies of both countries expect it and worry about it

yes, you are right. but don't feign ignorance what some pak members are trying to do with this thread. this thread is a fallout of this thread : http://www.defence.pk/forums/irania...ssile-powers-according-iranian-assistant.html

where your fellow country members(according to their flags) without realizing what their comments were doing to the iranians kept insisting that iran wasn't a top missile power.

 

[lem34]

yes, you are right. but don't feign ignorance what some pak members are trying to do with this thread. this thread is a fallout of this thread : http://www.defence.pk/forums/irania...ssile-powers-according-iranian-assistant.html

where your fellow country members(according to their flags) without realizing what their comments were doing to the iranians kept insisting that iran wasn't a top missile power.

Not at all. There was a misunderstanding between one Iranian and myself and as a result not only did he appologise but one other Iranian appologised. I responded stating that I had no issues with Iran or Iranians and no appology was necessary. Our govts at times may not see eye to eye sometimes because of external interference etc the people have no doubt about Iranians. In any event we in Pakistan owe and share great deal with Iranian in culture and religion.

Back to topic even if there is no cooperation we should be cooperating with Iran on missiles our enemies suspect it and it would only be rational

OH !

stop this useless discussion

Sorry sir I just noticed your comment I will stay off this thread. lol

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

But why Pakistani member questioning Muslim Iran's capabilities. Muslim brotherhood anyone?

so when it suits your interests, you'd fall to the level of believing and
american and israeli sources.

Kinda funny when a bunch of random hindu trolls from india pop up in threads preaching us about things tht are beyond their lil intellect....