tipu sultan ancestors were pakistani

[Hamza913]

The only name comes to mind with world renowned warrior/king from current Pakistan are King Porus , Maharajah Ranjeet Singh and Hari Singh Nalwa and they are non Muslims ....

Your point doesn't make any sense. If you want to look at it from an ethnic perspective, then look at all Punjabis, regardless of religion. if you want to look at it from a Muslim perspective, then look at all Muslims, regardless of ethnicity. You can't pick both.

No king/warrior from South Asia is "world-renowned", other than maybe Akbar (who came from Umerkot) and Ashoka (who came from somewhere in India, don't know the specifics though).

The only reason you can't think of any other rulers/warriors is because you're either lying to try and anger people or you simply don't know history. Let me help you out:

Sarang Khan, ruled over parts of northern Punjab and earned the title of "Sultan" for helping Babur in his conquests. Died bravely while fighting against Suri the usurper:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Sarang_Khan

Muqarrab Khan, also ruled over parts of northern Punjab and fought under Ahmed Shah Durrani:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...ved=0ahUKEwi9jNLB5_rfAhUhQxUIHYElA70Q6AEIKDAA

Shahbaz Khan Kamboh, Mughal general:

https://epaper.dawn.com/DetailImage.php?StoryImage=02_10_2016_177_005

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbaz_Khan_Kamboh

Ahmed Khan Karral, Punjabi anti-Sikh Empire and anti-colonial freedom fighter who ruled over a small amount of land in the Punjab:

https://www.dawn.com/news/793732

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Khan_Kharal

Muhammad Saleh Kamboh, Mughal noble who commanded 500 soldiers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saleh_Kamboh

Shabbir Sharif, the most decorated soldier in the history of the Pakistani army:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbir_Sharif

Bahawalpur state:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahawalpur_(princely_state)

And of course, like it or not, the Muslim Mysoreans originated from the Punjab:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...nd-tumakuru-district/articleshow/61574823.cms

There are even more I can name if you wish (but I'll refrain from some of them since they'll make you cry if I mention them and I don't really support their actions).

To top it all off, most Punjabi tribes/clans are either descended from the Muslim conquerors (e.g Awans), or come from tribes/clans with a rich military history (e.g Rajputs). Not to mention the number of Punjabis with (partial) Pashtun or Baloch ancestry (and I'm one of them, as is @OsmanAli98 ). And Lahore itself has been a major seat of Islamic power in the region for centuries, with it acting as a prominent city for almost every major Muslim empire of the region.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I sense potential for a very vociferous card trading game.

You just lost.

 

[Crixus]

I am still wondering if they claim Ghengis Khan as Punjabi before he migrated to Mongolia and used to speak Urdu.....

I'll give you credit for Abdali if you recognize my discovery of MBQ's true lineage.



Wait till you agree that Siraj-ud-Daula was a Pakistani, but India gets to keep Mir Jaffer.

 

[VCheng]

Deal.



No deal.

Don't you remember whose descendant Iskandar Mirza was?

Sir, you do not get to choose. We choose whatever we wish to appropriate and leave you with the detritus we cannot fit into our manufactured narrative. That is the only way it can work.

I am still wondering if they claim Ghengis Khan as Punjabi before he migrated to Mongolia and used to speak Urdu.....

Hey if that works I can declare myself King of Pakistan!

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sir, you do not get to choose. We choose whatever we wish to appropriate and leave you with the detritus we cannot fit into our manufactured narrative. That is the only way it can work.



Hey if that works I can declare myself King of Pakistan!

Dash! So I'll have to back off from the presence. <Memo to myself: remember not to wear high heels when presenting yourself at Keng VCheng's court - or is that King VChing?>

 

[Crixus]

If you have so many they why are you claiming a black Kannadaliga Muslim named as Tipu Sultan just FYI he was not white as Punjabi Muslims claimed on this forum

Your point doesn't make any sense. If you want to look at it from an ethnic perspective, then look at all Punjabis, regardless of religion. if you want to look at it from a Muslim perspective, then look at all Muslims, regardless of ethnicity. You can't pick both.

No king/warrior from South Asia is "world-renowned", other than maybe Akbar (who came from Umerkot) and Ashoka (who came from somewhere in India, don't know the specifics though).

The only reason you can't think of any other rulers/warriors is because you're either lying to try and anger people or you simply don't know history. Let hem help you out:

Sarang Khan, ruled over parts of northern Punjab and earned the title of "Sultan" for helping Babur in his conquests. Died bravely while fighting against Suri the usurper:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Sarang_Khan

Muqarrab Khan, also ruled over parts of northern Punjab and fought under Ahmed Shah Durrani:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...ved=0ahUKEwi9jNLB5_rfAhUhQxUIHYElA70Q6AEIKDAA

Shahbaz Khan Kamboh, Mughal general:

https://epaper.dawn.com/DetailImage.php?StoryImage=02_10_2016_177_005

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbaz_Khan_Kamboh

Ahmed Khan Karral, Punjabi anti-Sikh Empire and anti-colonial freedom fighter who ruled over a small amount of land in the Punjab:

https://www.dawn.com/news/793732

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Khan_Kharal

Muhammad Saleh Kamboh, Mughal noble who commanded 500 soldiers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saleh_Kamboh

Shabbir Sharif, the most decorated soldier in the history of the Pakistani army:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbir_Sharif

Bahawalpur state:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahawalpur_(princely_state)

And of course, like it or not, the Muslim Mysoreans originated from the Punjab:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...nd-tumakuru-district/articleshow/61574823.cms

And to top it off, most Punjabi tribes/clans are either descended from the Muslim conquerors (e.g Awans), or come from tribes/clans with a rich military history (e.g Rajputs). Not to mention the number of Punjabis with (partial) Pashtun or Baloch ancestry (and I'm one of them, as is @OsmanAli98 ). And Lahore itself has been a major seat of Islamic power in the region for centuries, with it acting as a prominent city for almost every major Muslim empire of the region.

There are even more I can name if you wish (but I'll refrain from some of them since they'll make you cry if I mention them and I don't really support their actions).

 

[Nilgiri]

I am still wondering if they claim Ghengis Khan as Punjabi before he migrated to Mongolia and used to speak Urdu.....

Funny thing you bring him up. One amusing feline Bangladeshi poster claims direct lineage from Genghis Khan himself.

@Mage had a good chuckle about it when I showed him

 

[Hamza913]

If you have so many they why are you claiming a black Kannadaliga Muslim named as Tipu Sultan just FYI he was not white as Punjabi Muslims claimed on this forum

Because his family originated from the Punjab, as has already been pointed out on this forum multiple times.

I don't care if he was black, there are plenty of dark Punjabis. And ultimately, my respect for him comes from the fact that he was Muslim. He could be Nigerian for all I care.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Your point doesn't make any sense. If you want to look at it from an ethnic perspective, then look at all Punjabis, regardless of religion. if you want to look at it from a Muslim perspective, then look at all Muslims, regardless of ethnicity. You can't pick both.

No king/warrior from South Asia is "world-renowned", other than maybe Akbar (who came from Umerkot) and Ashoka (who came from somewhere in India, don't know the specifics though).

The only reason you can't think of any other rulers/warriors is because you're either lying to try and anger people or you simply don't know history. Let hem help you out:

Sarang Khan, ruled over parts of northern Punjab and earned the title of "Sultan" for helping Babur in his conquests. Died bravely while fighting against Suri the usurper:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Sarang_Khan

Muqarrab Khan, also ruled over parts of northern Punjab and fought under Ahmed Shah Durrani:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...ved=0ahUKEwi9jNLB5_rfAhUhQxUIHYElA70Q6AEIKDAA

Shahbaz Khan Kamboh, Mughal general:

https://epaper.dawn.com/DetailImage.php?StoryImage=02_10_2016_177_005

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahbaz_Khan_Kamboh

Ahmed Khan Karral, Punjabi anti-Sikh Empire and anti-colonial freedom fighter who ruled over a small amount of land in the Punjab:

https://www.dawn.com/news/793732

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Khan_Kharal

Muhammad Saleh Kamboh, Mughal noble who commanded 500 soldiers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saleh_Kamboh

Shabbir Sharif, the most decorated soldier in the history of the Pakistani army:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbir_Sharif

Bahawalpur state:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahawalpur_(princely_state)

And of course, like it or not, the Muslim Mysoreans originated from the Punjab:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...nd-tumakuru-district/articleshow/61574823.cms

There are even more I can name if you wish (but I'll refrain from some of them since they'll make you cry if I mention them and I don't really support their actions).

To top it all off, most Punjabi tribes/clans are either descended from the Muslim conquerors (e.g Awans), or come from tribes/clans with a rich military history (e.g Rajputs). Not to mention the number of Punjabis with (partial) Pashtun or Baloch ancestry (and I'm one of them, as is @OsmanAli98 ). And Lahore itself has been a major seat of Islamic power in the region for centuries, with it acting as a prominent city for almost every major Muslim empire of the region.

It is related that the legendary Sam Goldwyn once mistakenly picked up the Los Angeles telephone directory thinking it was a film script. Spotting this, a mischievous subordinate asked him what he thought of it.

"Well, it ain't much of a script, but, boy oh boy, what a cast!"

 

[Hamza913]

Funny thing you bring him up. One amusing feline Bangladeshi poster claims direct lineage from Genghis Khan himself.

@Mage had a good chuckle about it when I showed him

Not at all impossible. Only weird thing would be to take pride in it, because that's just taking pride in being the product of rape.

 

[VCheng]

Dash! So I'll have to back off from the presence. <Memo to myself: remember not to wear high heels when presenting yourself at Keng VCheng's court - or is that King VChing?>

I'd post an image here about the dress code in my court that I'd be instapermabanned, so you'll just have to imagine that one.

(I haven't had this much fun cabin bound in the middle of a blizzard since ..... (unmentionables). )

 

[@@@]

Because his family originated from the Punjab, as has already been pointed out on this forum multiple times.

I don't care if he was black, there are plenty of dark Punjabis. And ultimately, my respect for him comes from the fact that he was Muslim. He could be Nigerian for all I care.

it is the Hindus whom are stuck in Caste system mentality. They always project their disgusting beliefs onto others. They are always like "wheatish skin, white skin, dark skin". weird fetish if you ask me...

 

[Hamza913]

It is related that the legendary Sam Goldwyn once mistakenly picked up the Los Angeles telephone directory thinking it was a film script. Spotting this, a mischievous subordinate asked him what he thought of it.

"Well, it ain't much of a script, but, boy oh boy, what a cast!"

If you have something to say spit it out.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Funny thing you bring him up. One amusing feline Bangladeshi poster claims direct lineage from Genghis Khan himself.

@Mage had a good chuckle about it when I showed him

Considering that more than 60% of the present population in certain parts bear his genes, that is NOT impossible.

 

[Pakistani E]

Seems like another identity crisis stealing warriors from Afghanistan and India( after 1947) and I am still wondering do the current Pakistan has any world renowned Muslim warrior except Gen Niazi.

Don't care about world famous, but if it weren't for fate and the incompetence of our own high command, every Indian would be remembering the name Lt General Akhtar Hussain Malik to this day.