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Three statements between April 14, when President Biden announced US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, and April 22 , when U.S. Central Command’s General Kenneth “Frank” McKenzie Jr. repeated what he had earlier stated before the House Armed Services Committee, probably foretell considerable trouble ahead for Pakistan.

Let us first look at what General McKenzie told a Senate committee on April 22.

“I think Pakistan is interested in stability in Afghanistan and I think it’s going to be very difficult for that stability to remain after we leave. So, I think Pakistan will be very concerned by that. I would say frankly that it’s a situation they have not been terribly helpful on over the last 20 years so that’s unfortunate for them that some of this is now gone come back home in a way that they perhaps did not anticipate.”

Only a couple of days earlier, McKenzie had had told members of the Armed Services Committee; Pakistan will be mostly impacted by the US withdrawal because of the possibility of unconstrained refugee flow, possibility of new terrorist attacks in Pakistan that could ramp up as a result of this.

Should we interpret as a veiled threat by a global power after failing to bring peace to Afghanistan as part of the “nation-building project” that had begun after the 9/11 terrorist attacks? Is the CENTCOM chief scapegoating Afghanistan’s internal power struggles and the US failures on Pakistan, and hence threatening it with instability?

Such inference may not be out of place if one draws on what President Biden told the world when announcing the phased pullout from Afghanistan.

In addition to this, Biden cold-shouldered Pakistan’s Prime Minister for the Global Climate Summit, and asked his pointman on climate, John Kerry to invite Malik Amin Aslam, Khan’s pointman form climate change issues. Kerry and Alston flew over Pakistan to visit India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan but snubbed Pakistan.

What messages are they conveying to PM Khan and what inferences should one draw from the aforementioned statements and actions by the Biden administration?

Firstly, a new phase of Sino-US cold war is underway with China as the primary focus of the US policy involvement in Asia (Joe Biden: We have to shore up American competitiveness to meet the stiff competition we’re facing from an increasingly assertive China)

Secondly, India as strategic partner will serve as the shoulders that the US will use for pursuing its policy objectives in the region (JB: … but we’ll not take our eye off the terrorist threat. We’ll reorganize our counterterrorism capabilities and the substantial assets in the region to prevent reemergence of terrorists — of the threat to our homeland from over the horizon)

Thirdly, a Democratic Party administration would not shy from engaging security establishments in the region to pursue its strategic goals including containment of China.

The three telephonic contacts – twice from foreign secretary Blinken and once from defense secretary Alston – with Pakistan’s army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa offer clear indicators of the new approach; engage whoever serves America’s national interests. This is a marked sharp contrast and marked departure from Democratic Party’s aversion to deal with military rulers. President Clinton, who visited Pakistan in Feb 2000 for under five hours in a very hostile environment and had almost declined to meet with the then President Musharraf

Fourth, the US will remain engaged in Afghanistan with the help of India at the cost of excluding Iran from the process. ( JB: And we’ll ask other countries — other countries in the region — to do more to support Afghanistan, especially Pakistan, as well as Russia, China, India, and Turkey. They all have a significant stake in the stable future for Afghanistan).

Conspicuous here was the omission of Iran from the countries the US is seeking help from and foretells us that the unfortunate Afghanistan is likely to remain a hotbed of militancy and internal turmoil with no real peace in sight with the exclusion of Tehran from the entire process.

Ironically, the US plans to engage with Iran but for a reason other than Afghanistan; it intends – so it seems – to wean Tehran away from China, and at the same time neutralize Iranian political threat to the US presence and its policies on Afghanistan.

Lastly, is the US ramping up pressure on Pakistan to warn PM Khan for his categorical statement on partnership with China; I think our economic future is tied to China that has stood by Pakistan through thick and thin, Khan has reiterated on several occasions.

The vibes out of Washington for Pakistan are not promising at all. If the US establishment believes Pakistan failed its military mission in Afghanistan, then it would be hardly surprising if it sets out to settle scores. Tough times ahead for Pakistan – not to balance its relations with both the US and China but to manage it in a way that is not hurtful to its unflinching and unconditional partnership with Beijing. The entire civilian and military leadership in Islamabad and Rawalpindi is now on trial indeed and must brace for a clearly defined foreign policy paradigm.


As predicted so many times in the past. There is no doubt that the US is going to ramp up its covert support for anti-Pakistan elements in every way possible. The question is, how prepared is Pakistan?
 
The question is, how prepared is Pakistan?

This is the most important issue.

Leadership keeps on stating hybrid warfare, while doing very little.

Is there a single internal intelligence agency in the country at par with lets say FSB in russia, ISD in Singapore, Shin Bet in Israel that is prepared for whats coming?

Is Pakistan police (filled with political cronies) prepared to tackle hybrid or 5th Gen warfare?

Are FCs in balochistan and kp at par with lets say Gendarmarie in Turkey or will they be left with toyota pick ups?

Is there political stability in the country?

These are the few questions leadership must answer.
 
This is the most important issue.

Leadership keeps on stating hybrid warfare, while doing very little.

Is there a single internal intelligence agency in the country at par with lets say FSB in russia, ISD in Singapore, Shin Bet in Israel that is prepared for whats coming?

Is Pakistan police (filled with political cronies) prepared to tackle hybrid or 5th Gen warfare?

Are FCs in balochistan and kp at par with lets say Gendarmarie in Turkey or will they be left with toyota pick ups?

Is there political stability in the country?

These are the few questions leadership must answer.
Which leadership?
Judicial leadership?
Civilian Leadership?
Military Leadership?
 
This is the most important issue.

Leadership keeps on stating hybrid warfare, while doing very little.

Is there a single internal intelligence agency in the country at par with lets say FSB in russia, ISD in Singapore, Shin Bet in Israel that is prepared for whats coming?

Is Pakistan police (filled with political cronies) prepared to tackle hybrid or 5th Gen warfare?

Are FCs in balochistan and kp at par with lets say Gendarmarie in Turkey or will they be left with toyota pick ups?

Is there political stability in the country?

These are the few questions leadership must answer.

Exactly. I also fear the worst.
Which leadership?
Judicial leadership?
Civilian Leadership?
Military Leadership?

I would say all. Loyalties ars also divided.
 
IMO, Pak is much well prepared this time....

An empty vassal sounds much....

As for the USA, her downfall has already started for being unable to stay in Afganistan is its prime signature! The China-Russia axis is putting up the “Great Game” befitting of the Great Powers! The USA is damn ill prepared for such 19th century antiques, when she was maintaining isolationist policies while all the “dramas” were being played in the European theater....

Bottom-line: Pak would fare much better than the last time; and, consequently, the USA will fare much worse than the last time
 
Pakistan needs to buy Mil35's , Armored Vehicles and armed drones on emergency bases from wherever they get their hands on, NDS and RAW will run loose their proxies inside Pakistan while they try to contain Taliban inside Afghanistan, tough times are indeed ahead for Afghanistan and Pakistan.
 
Look people.

It is a very simple equation.

For decades, Pakistan knew the locations and patrons of "Terror training camps" in Afghanistan.
It has photographs, videos, full intelligence on the terror campaign launched against it under USA nose and knowledge.
If ISI knew so did CIA. That not rocket science that CIA knew and close their eyes. Or may be even provided assistance.

Pakistan in the past failed or was reluctant to take action because of USA and their presence in Afghanistan.

But now when USA leaves, I hope Pakistan breaks its shackles and hit its enemies deep inside Afghanistan, kill the terrorists, their supporters, trainers and financiers, destroy their terror camps.

No hold bar approach is needed.
Will General Bajwa Dove would be able to do that!!!

I don't thin Bajwa has in him to be daring.
What you guys think!!
 
IMO, Pak is much well prepared this time....

An empty vassal sounds much....

As for the USA, her downfall has already started for being unable to stay in Afganistan is its prime signature! The China-Russia axis is putting up the “Great Game” befitting of the Great Powers! The USA is damn ill prepared for such 19th century antiques, when she was maintaining isolationist policies while all the “dramas” were being played in the European theater....

Bottom-line: Pak would fare much better than the last time; and, consequently, the USA will fare much worse than the last time

You always seem to be very optimistic brother, unfortunately Pak state in most cases tends to disappoint, for we have pr1cks for an establisment.. and that has remained constant, a lot of folk thought it would change when IK became PM, but with a weak coalition his merely a knight on the chess board, being ridden by another..
 
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Three statements between April 14, when President Biden announced US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan, and April 22 , when U.S. Central Command’s General Kenneth “Frank” McKenzie Jr. repeated what he had earlier stated before the House Armed Services Committee, probably foretell considerable trouble ahead for Pakistan.

Let us first look at what General McKenzie told a Senate committee on April 22.

“I think Pakistan is interested in stability in Afghanistan and I think it’s going to be very difficult for that stability to remain after we leave. So, I think Pakistan will be very concerned by that. I would say frankly that it’s a situation they have not been terribly helpful on over the last 20 years so that’s unfortunate for them that some of this is now gone come back home in a way that they perhaps did not anticipate.”

Only a couple of days earlier, McKenzie had had told members of the Armed Services Committee; Pakistan will be mostly impacted by the US withdrawal because of the possibility of unconstrained refugee flow, possibility of new terrorist attacks in Pakistan that could ramp up as a result of this.

Should we interpret as a veiled threat by a global power after failing to bring peace to Afghanistan as part of the “nation-building project” that had begun after the 9/11 terrorist attacks? Is the CENTCOM chief scapegoating Afghanistan’s internal power struggles and the US failures on Pakistan, and hence threatening it with instability?

Such inference may not be out of place if one draws on what President Biden told the world when announcing the phased pullout from Afghanistan.

In addition to this, Biden cold-shouldered Pakistan’s Prime Minister for the Global Climate Summit, and asked his pointman on climate, John Kerry to invite Malik Amin Aslam, Khan’s pointman form climate change issues. Kerry and Alston flew over Pakistan to visit India, Bangladesh and Afghanistan but snubbed Pakistan.

What messages are they conveying to PM Khan and what inferences should one draw from the aforementioned statements and actions by the Biden administration?

Firstly, a new phase of Sino-US cold war is underway with China as the primary focus of the US policy involvement in Asia (Joe Biden: We have to shore up American competitiveness to meet the stiff competition we’re facing from an increasingly assertive China)

Secondly, India as strategic partner will serve as the shoulders that the US will use for pursuing its policy objectives in the region (JB: … but we’ll not take our eye off the terrorist threat. We’ll reorganize our counterterrorism capabilities and the substantial assets in the region to prevent reemergence of terrorists — of the threat to our homeland from over the horizon)

Thirdly, a Democratic Party administration would not shy from engaging security establishments in the region to pursue its strategic goals including containment of China.

The three telephonic contacts – twice from foreign secretary Blinken and once from defense secretary Alston – with Pakistan’s army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa offer clear indicators of the new approach; engage whoever serves America’s national interests. This is a marked sharp contrast and marked departure from Democratic Party’s aversion to deal with military rulers. President Clinton, who visited Pakistan in Feb 2000 for under five hours in a very hostile environment and had almost declined to meet with the then President Musharraf

Fourth, the US will remain engaged in Afghanistan with the help of India at the cost of excluding Iran from the process. ( JB: And we’ll ask other countries — other countries in the region — to do more to support Afghanistan, especially Pakistan, as well as Russia, China, India, and Turkey. They all have a significant stake in the stable future for Afghanistan).

Conspicuous here was the omission of Iran from the countries the US is seeking help from and foretells us that the unfortunate Afghanistan is likely to remain a hotbed of militancy and internal turmoil with no real peace in sight with the exclusion of Tehran from the entire process.

Ironically, the US plans to engage with Iran but for a reason other than Afghanistan; it intends – so it seems – to wean Tehran away from China, and at the same time neutralize Iranian political threat to the US presence and its policies on Afghanistan.

Lastly, is the US ramping up pressure on Pakistan to warn PM Khan for his categorical statement on partnership with China; I think our economic future is tied to China that has stood by Pakistan through thick and thin, Khan has reiterated on several occasions.

The vibes out of Washington for Pakistan are not promising at all. If the US establishment believes Pakistan failed its military mission in Afghanistan, then it would be hardly surprising if it sets out to settle scores. Tough times ahead for Pakistan – not to balance its relations with both the US and China but to manage it in a way that is not hurtful to its unflinching and unconditional partnership with Beijing. The entire civilian and military leadership in Islamabad and Rawalpindi is now on trial indeed and must brace for a clearly defined foreign policy paradigm.


As predicted so many times in the past. There is no doubt that the US is going to ramp up its covert support for anti-Pakistan elements in every way possible. The question is, how prepared is Pakistan?

Actually, the US wants a war between India and Pakistan. And to do this, US will conduct a massive terror attack inside india. It will then use its media and the indian media it controls to point fingers at Pakistan. Modi will then call some sort of 'national security' meeting, and will attack Pakistan. Things will escalate. THIS IS WHAT THE US/UK and other members of 5-Eyes want. The only thing which MIGHT PREVENT INDIA TO DO THIS IS CHINA, who has build up huge forces in the Northern India. There is NO WAY India can withstand a Chinese onslaught. However, US's plan is to checkmate China in South China sea so that it doesn't have resources to concentrate on India.

So as you can see, the biggest problem in all this dirty game is INDIA because if India today refuses to be the gang-bang baby of US, it is GAME OVER FOR THE US, there is no doubt about it. Now people can see, why MODI was bought into power by the West. Modi will do whatever the West wants. These are very dangerous times !! If there are any patriots LEFT in Indian Establishment who do not want destruction of India, then they need to take action NOW !
 
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Pakistan needs to adapt a regional approach work with Iran, Russia and China. Red line for us should be no ISIS-K sanctuaries in Afghanistan. Its up to the Afghans how they want to share power....but a civil war should be avoided. We should reach out to multiple factions inside including the Abdullah Abdullah faction.
 
IMO, Pak is much well prepared this time....

An empty vassal sounds much....

As for the USA, her downfall has already started for being unable to stay in Afganistan is its prime signature! The China-Russia axis is putting up the “Great Game” befitting of the Great Powers! The USA is damn ill prepared for such 19th century antiques, when she was maintaining isolationist policies while all the “dramas” were being played in the European theater....

Bottom-line: Pak would fare much better than the last time; and, consequently, the USA will fare much worse than the last time

according to your estimates americas downfall has started , what will you do ? return to pakistan?
 
IMO, Pak is much well prepared this time....

An empty vassal sounds much....

As for the USA, her downfall has already started for being unable to stay in Afganistan is its prime signature! The China-Russia axis is putting up the “Great Game” befitting of the Great Powers! The USA is damn ill prepared for such 19th century antiques, when she was maintaining isolationist policies while all the “dramas” were being played in the European theater....

Bottom-line: Pak would fare much better than the last time; and, consequently, the USA will fare much worse than the last time

The main problem in all this region is INDIA. This is the only country that can facilitate US/UK etc. to cause great destruction in this region, which will eventually spill over and destroy China and Russia. And that is why China and Russia should have taken a much, much harsher stance against India. But in my view these two have failed to take such a stance against India, and this will eventually lead to their destruction.
 
Pakistan needs to adapt a regional approach work with Iran, Russia and China. Red line for us should be no ISIS-K sanctuaries in Afghanistan. Its up to the Afghans how they want to share power....but a civil war should be avoided. We should reach out to multiple factions inside including the Abdullah Abdullah faction.

yes that is the right approach , pakistan should work for participation of all stake holders and all factions in the govt . if taliban agree for this formula for formation of govt , afghanistan can be stabilized peacefully .
 
Actually, the US wants a war between India and Pakistan. And to do this, US will conduct a massive terror attack inside india. It will then use its media and the indian media it controls to point fingers at Pakistan. Modi will then call some sort of 'national security' meeting, and will attack Pakistan. Things will escalate. THIS IS WHAT THE US/UK and other members of 5-Eyes want. The only thing which MIGHT PREVENT INDIA TO DO THIS IS CHINA, who has build up huge forces in the Northern India. There is NO WAY India can withstand a Chinese onslaught. However, US's plan is to checkmate China in South China sea so that it doesn't have resources to concentrate on India.

So as you can see, the biggest problem in all this dirty game is INDIA because if India today refuses to be the gang-bang baby of US, it is GAME OVER FOR THE US, there is no doubt about it. Now people can see, why MODI was bought into power by the West. Modi will do whatever the West wants. These are very dangerous times !! If there are any patriots LEFT in Indian Establishment who do not want destruction of India, then they need to take action NOW !
And what will US achieve from this war, let's assume China is some how fully restrained from participation, India has free hand, world will end up with two giant mushroom clouds, poof India is gone and we still have China to deal with and she is now way more belligerent.
 
yes that is the right approach , pakistan should work for participation of all stake holders and all factions in the govt . if taliban agree for this formula for formation of govt , afghanistan can be stabilized peacefully .
Not all. Just Iran, Russia and China.
 
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