Thousands of strong force to take on China

[Abingdonboy]

Strange ... without On Board Oxygen Generating System, how can fighter flight >5000m ? I think all 3-gen fighters can fly over that altitude.

By carrying compressed liquid oxygen bottles. And AFAIK no PLAAF fighters in the region have OBOGS right now whilst the IAF fighters DO (MKI, MIG-29UPG, Mirage 2000-5 mK2, JAGUAR IS/DARIN III and future assets like the LCA and Rafale). As a result PLAAF's fighters are forced to fly at medium altitudes not exceeding 14,000 feet, or fly for very limited durations at higher altitudes.


Couple this with the fact that the much touted higher topography of Tibet vis-a-vis Indian bases means that fighters launching from Tibet at these higher altitudes may have to make a compromise between weapon load and fuel because of the weight limitations at those altitudes imposed by the thinner air (less lift), IAF fighters will face NO such issues taking off and can thus fly "fat" ie heavy fuel and full weapon's load.


On this front India is strikingly ahead.

 

[cnleio]

By carrying compressed liquid oxygen bottles. And AFAIK no PLAAF fighters in the region have OBOGS right now whilst the IAF fighters DO (MKI, MIG-29UPG, Mirage 2000-5 mK2, JAGUAR IS/DARIN III and future assets like the LCA and Rafale). As a result PLAAF's fighters are forced to fly at medium altitudes not exceeding 14,000 feet, or fly for very limited durations at higher altitudes.


Couple this with the fact that the much touted higher topography of Tibet vis-a-vis Indian bases means that fighters launching from Tibet at these higher altitudes may have to make a compromise between weapon load and fuel because of the weight limitations at those altitudes imposed by the thinner air (less lift), IAF fighters will face NO such issues taking off and can thus fly "fat" ie heavy fuel and full weapon's load.


On this front India is strikingly ahead.

Very professional explanation, ths @Abingdonboy. U believe that Oxygen Tank ? It's just a humor word.

J-10 and J-11 also use OBOGS, China can produce Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System for aircraft & fighter.

Here's a J-11's airframe drawing, Right Stuff is the Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System(1800x1200, click to see large pic)

Here's China private company produced civil-level Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System, military-level used by fighter much smaller than it.

Here's a PPT introduction about J-10's Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System. Sorry i didn't find the J-10 pic.

For Chinese member, there's a useful & interesting PPT (Chinese only) to introduce fighter's OBOGS and China OBOGS development (China Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System development).
GOOD to read !
2009_第六节_机载制氧_2009年3月16日_ok

Couple this with the fact that the much touted higher topography of Tibet vis-a-vis Indian bases means that fighters launching from Tibet at these higher altitudes may have to make a compromise between weapon load and fuel because of the weight limitations at those altitudes imposed by the thinner air (less lift), IAF fighters will face NO such issues taking off and can thus fly "fat" ie heavy fuel and full weapon's load.

PLAAF's fighters launch from Tibet, not "fat"?

 

[Nav]

Do you have any info about the Soviet Finish Winter War? Or the importance of channeling forces? Try sending a division of the best of PLA through the Nathu La and you will know. Your officers know better.

I don't think china will do something like that first of all they will bombard every millimeter of India.and after that they will think to step on the Indian soil.

 

[fiji]

Very professional explanation, ths @Abingdonboy. U believe that Oxygen Tank ? It's just a humor word.

J-10 and J-11 also use OBOGS, China can produce Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System for aircraft & fighter.

Here's a J-11's airframe drawing, Right Stuff is the Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System(1800x1200, click to see large pic)

Here's China private company produced civil-level Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System, military-level used by fighter much smaller than it.

Here's a PPT introduction about J-10's Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System. Sorry i didn't find the J-10 pic.

For Chinese member, there's a useful & interesting PPT (Chinese only) to introduce fighter's OBOGS and China OBOGS development (China Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System development).
GOOD to read !
2009_第六节_机载制氧_2009年3月16日_ok




PLAAF's fighters launch from Tibet, not "fat"?

Ahh my weakness, the airforce! those deadly beauties.

 

[Nav]

stupid ???? Tibet is uphill and Northern India is downhill.

is dafa india apny hi piss me doob jaye ga lol

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I don't think china will do something like that first of all they will bombard every millimeter of India.and after that they will think to step on the Indian soil.

What will they gain out of it? They don't have any bigoted religious motive - this much I can tell.

 

[cirr]

India needs to spend more on each and every of its soldiers。

 

[Jlaw]

We will when the time comes. And that's why the Chinese are crapping scared of starting a war with India!

uH huh. war is fought over for some anonymous Indians on the internet. Lol. You guys overestimated your importance

No, like 1962 Nehru's confidence will ruin Indian Army again.
This time PLA prepare enough and get more hi-tech weapons, one thing Tibet PLA is the defense force, so without India attack first PLA won't hurt u or try our best to repeat 1962 again.

They should have shot those soldiers who surrounded.

 

[cirr]

H-6Ks，carrying 6 CJ series cruise missiles，are able to strike deep into Indian territories：

 

[SrNair]

Don't copy high tech products? coping medicine is easy?
Who said we don't develop our own technology? of course you indian and western don't know it, or will not accept that is our own technology, in laser, 3D, quantum communication, rice cropping, and many other science domains, we are one of the best, of course, all these you and western will say, all these should credit to chinese "invincible" spy.

in 1980, china and india was in the same level, no money, but china can success, why you don't? don't make excuse for your failure, OK, as to Japan, they also copy others first, the population is 13 times that of Japan, we have the patience and capability to catch up with the most advanced countries, in past 30 years, we show that china can, but what do you india prove to the world within past 30 years?

Oh man.Ok .I tell you one history.I read biography of our former president Dr.A.P.J Abdul kalam when I was in High school.In that he describes the challenges he encountered when he developed Agni first missile.No co-operation from the part of Russia,and sanction and threataning words from US .For the testing the vehicle at high speed condition about mach 12 he need high speed wind tunnel.But we have no that facilities and sanctions also make outside help impossible.He met that challenge in different way, he find out 6 brilliant scientists working in the field of fluid dynamics and aerospace field in IIT for develop a software for flight simulation. Within few months they developed a software called 'ANUKALPANA'.He also states no one give you a software like that.This is a incident at
early 1990's.
So we have our own problems and we dealt it different way.With communist style you become second largest economy.But believe or not ,If India has that much capability we will make
giant strides.In medical field we also find out low cost solution

Indian scientists develop Japanese Encephalitis vaccine - World - DNA

our scientists worked and find out vaccine with limited facilities and funding.Dont take Japanese lightly,You know ,I know and whole the world how much capable they are.In you nation ,people will
do ,what the ccp ordered thay to do.But in our nation we have rights and can question even our PM.
so working conditons between these countries are different.We cant enforces our people so that they must produce fake copies and toys day and night,for flooding other nations with junk products.
You prove only how to steal ,copy and oppress people.
Sorry guys I become too diverted from thread .I am sure our government decision to deploy soldires around the border is correct.

 

[anjaneyashruti]

I hope the chinese are smart enough to realize that huge lumbering oldies like the H-6K will not even make it to the Indian border

They will be picked up and brought down by SAM long before that.

BTW the chinese soldiers looks like kids. They look inexperienced and soft. I suspect it is one of the effects of china's one child policy. I seriously think the Indian soldiers will eat them for lunch.

 

[HariPrasad]

weapons .you can also check this.

Chinese Can not handle this stuff.

 

[phylumchordata]

chinese members exposing their IQs.

 

[HariPrasad]

Very professional explanation, ths @Abingdonboy. U believe that Oxygen Tank ? It's just a humor word.

J-10 and J-11 also use OBOGS, China can produce Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System for aircraft & fighter.

Here's a J-11's airframe drawing, Right Stuff is the Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System(1800x1200, click to see large pic)

Here's China private company produced civil-level Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System, military-level used by fighter much smaller than it.

Here's a PPT introduction about J-10's Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System. Sorry i didn't find the J-10 pic.

For Chinese member, there's a useful & interesting PPT (Chinese only) to introduce fighter's OBOGS and China OBOGS development (China Molecular Sieve Oxygen Generating System development).
GOOD to read !
2009_第六节_机载制氧_2009年3月16日_ok




PLAAF's fighters launch from Tibet, not "fat"?

Comeon Man,

Forget this big Oxygen Plants. We have the technology of onboard Oxygen generation on our plane.

None of your plane is any match to what we have. Super MKI, Rafale (TO come), Mirage (UPG), Mig 29 (UPG), Jaguar, Bison etc.

 

[faithfulguy]

Without US assistance, India cannot handle China.