Thousands of dalits to embrace Buddhism in Junagadh

[vK_man]

Can you tell us about any Buddhist archaeological remains in Sindh like that of Gandhara. If Buddhism was so widespread in Sindh once why isn't there a trace of any Buddhist heritage in Sindh while there are so many in Gandhara.

First suppressed in the brahmin buddhist civil wars and then totally destroyed by islamic invaders. Many hindus still fought and resisted.Buddhists did not resist much as they initally thought that invaders were liberators only to be later killed,enslaved (though this is not so in Gandhara where buddhist and hindu several times defeated arab muslim invaders.This was a trend in Central Asia also where islamic invaders converted the central asian buddhists and tengris to islam by sword,but ultimately it was reversed by half-buddhist Genghis Khan and his buddhist grandson hulagu khan who totally plummelled islam retribution for what islamic invaders did in central asia.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Thousands of dalits to embrace Buddhism in Junagadh - The Times of India

Excellent work.... anything that breaks this discrimination based on the family you are born is a great stuff.

 

[INDIC]

First suppressed in the brahmin buddhist civil wars and then totally destroyed by islamic invaders. Many hindus still fought and resisted.Buddhists did not resist much as they initally thought that invaders were liberators only to be later killed,enslaved (though this is not so in Gandhara where buddhist and hindu several times defeated arab muslim invaders.This was a trend in Central Asia also where islamic invaders converted the central asian buddhists and tengris to islam by sword,but ultimately it was reversed by half-buddhist Genghis Khan and his buddhist grandson hulagu khan who totally plummelled islam retribution for what islamic invaders did in central asia.

History revisionists mainly insert Buddhism anywhere to prove their Hinduphobic agenda. Like they claim Raja Dahir was cruel persecuting Buddhist majority of Sindh to prove legitimacy to invasion by Muhammad Bin Qasim.

 

[Sugarcane]

Actually good for "World's Largest democracy Image".

i just goes to show that there is some freedom to convert away from the dominant religion in India.

Let me see what would have happened if a similar number of Muslims had publicly declared their attempt to convert to Christianity or Buddhism in Pakistan. Oh I know, blood on the streets, slaughter in the alley ways.

So on the whole, while untouchability is a social evil that afflicts India, your evaluation of this event is quite ironic.

Dude - First read later posts of your fallows before making any sweeping statement

 

[vK_man]

History revisionists mainly insert Buddhism anywhere to prove their Hinduphobic agenda. Like they claim Raja Dahir was shrewed persecuting Buddhist majority of Sindh but I want to know if Buddhism was so widespread in Sindh, why isn't a archaeological trace of it in Sindh unlike they were found all across India, Gandhara or Afghanistan.

See I cannot say about history revisionism or hinduphobic agenda,because hindus themselves are revisionist ,and not all Buddhism is atheist(only theravada is ) Tibetan buddhism ,indonesian buddhism,chinese buddhism,Pure land Buddhism (all forms of mahayana Buddhism) all believe in God .Even Gandharan buddhist Padmasambhava was half-shaivate and use to refer to Shiva as Samantabhadra.Shiva relics were venerated by mahayana buddhists . Possibly I believe Buddhism in Sind might have been thervada and Shaivate buddhist practices like the one in indonesia where Buddha is called Shiva Buddha,looking Guru Padmasambhava's practices and dressing style.

 

[vK_man]

To prove that there should be some trace of any archaeological findings in Sindh, I even google it I couldn't find any Buddhism related archaeological findings in Sindh. Such findings are widespread in Bangladesh or Gandhara or Afghanistan but I never heard of it in Sindh.

Well,

Stupas in Sindh were also discovered at Depar Ghangro, Thul Mir Rukan, Jherruck, Mitho Dero, Sudheran jo Daro and as these awaited a thorough search, strong rumors of a relic casket buried in the stupa on top of the unexcavated mounds of Moen jo Daro reached the British officials. But while the early intruders searched in vain for treasures in the abode of a religion that renounces worldly treasures by the time Banerji reached the hollowed drum the region itself was empty of Buddhism. Peshawer casket had been handed over officially to the Burmese monks in a ceremony that symbolizes the final expulsion of Buddhism from the land where it flourished for thousands of years. Nonetheless the presence of Buddha’s bones- many lost but few found- in a close proximity to each other in Pakistan indicate that the land must have enjoyed an exalted sacred status in the Buddhist world.Restoring Pakistan's Buddhist past | The Pakistan Forum

Haryana to have replicas of Pak Buddhist sites : The Sunday Guardian | The Buddhist Forum

Buddhist relics have been found in Sindh and likely I believe Buddhism in Sindh might have been some form of shiva buddha worship like the one in indonesia.

Later, during the reign of the emperor Ashoka the region would solidly become a Buddhist domain. Following a century of Mauryan rule which ended by 232 BCE, the region came under the Greco-Bactrians based in what is today northern Afghanistan. Some of their rulers also converted to Buddhism and spread it in the region.
The Scythians (Saka) shattered the Greco-Bactrian kingdom. Subsequently, the Tocharian Kushan Empire annexed Sindh by the 1st century CE. Though the Kushans followed their own religion, they were tolerant of the local Buddhist tradition and sponsored many building projects for local beliefs.
Scythians, Kushans, Huns and the Sassanid Persians all exercised some degree of control in Sindh until the coming of the Muslim Arabs in 711 CE.
The Buddhist city of Siraj-ji-Takri is located along the western limestone terraces of the Rohri Hills in the Khairpur district of Upper Sindh, along the road that leads to Sorah. Its ruins are still visible on the top of three different mesas, in the form of stone and mud-brick walls and small mounds, whilst other architectural remains were observed along the slopes of the hills in the 1980s. This city is not mentioned from any text dealing with the history of the Buddhist period of Sindh.
History of Sindh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Most Buddhists in Punjab reverted to Hinduism from 600 CE onwards. Buddhism was the faith practiced by the majority of the population of Sindh up to the Arab conquest by the Umayyad Caliphate in 710 CE.

Also Amitabha buddha and vishnu were same according to ancient buddhists:

Krishna-Vishnu revealed himself in both the Bhagavad-Gita and the Pure Land Buddhist Saddharma Pundarika | Collected Works of Sri Bhakti Ananda Goswami

I am of conclusion that ancient mahayana buddhism that was practised in Pakistan,Afghanistan ,Indonesia ,China might have been forms of shiva or vishnu worship without casteist elements and some socialist elements. Brahminism was a feudalistic form of shiva or vishnu worship.

I am doing my research on the roots of buddhism and I am convinced that ancient buddhism was different than thervada buddhism.I will continue .

To prove that there should be some trace of any archaeological findings in Sindh, I even google it I couldn't find any Buddhism related archaeological findings in Sindh. Such findings are widespread in Bangladesh or Gandhara or Afghanistan but I never heard of it in Sindh.

Well,

Stupas in Sindh were also discovered at Depar Ghangro, Thul Mir Rukan, Jherruck, Mitho Dero, Sudheran jo Daro and as these awaited a thorough search, strong rumors of a relic casket buried in the stupa on top of the unexcavated mounds of Moen jo Daro reached the British officials. But while the early intruders searched in vain for treasures in the abode of a religion that renounces worldly treasures by the time Banerji reached the hollowed drum the region itself was empty of Buddhism. Peshawer casket had been handed over officially to the Burmese monks in a ceremony that symbolizes the final expulsion of Buddhism from the land where it flourished for thousands of years. Nonetheless the presence of Buddha’s bones- many lost but few found- in a close proximity to each other in Pakistan indicate that the land must have enjoyed an exalted sacred status in the Buddhist world.http://pakistaniaat.net/2012/07/restoring-pakistans-buddhist-past/

http://thebuddhistforum.com/wp/haryana-to-have-replicas-of-pak-buddhist-sites-the-sunday-guardian.html

Buddhist relics have been found in Sindh and likely I believe Buddhism in Sindh might have been some form of shiva buddha worship like the one in indonesia.

Later, during the reign of the emperor Ashoka the region would solidly become a Buddhist domain. Following a century of Mauryan rule which ended by 232 BCE, the region came under the Greco-Bactrians based in what is today northern Afghanistan. Some of their rulers also converted to Buddhism and spread it in the region.
The Scythians (Saka) shattered the Greco-Bactrian kingdom. Subsequently, the Tocharian Kushan Empire annexed Sindh by the 1st century CE. Though the Kushans followed their own religion, they were tolerant of the local Buddhist tradition and sponsored many building projects for local beliefs.
Scythians, Kushans, Huns and the Sassanid Persians all exercised some degree of control in Sindh until the coming of the Muslim Arabs in 711 CE.
The Buddhist city of Siraj-ji-Takri is located along the western limestone terraces of the Rohri Hills in the Khairpur district of Upper Sindh, along the road that leads to Sorah. Its ruins are still visible on the top of three different mesas, in the form of stone and mud-brick walls and small mounds, whilst other architectural remains were observed along the slopes of the hills in the 1980s. This city is not mentioned from any text dealing with the history of the Buddhist period of Sindh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Sindh#Ancient_era

Most Buddhists in Punjab reverted to Hinduism from 600 CE onwards. Buddhism was the faith practiced by the majority of the population of Sindh up to the Arab conquest by the Umayyad Caliphate in 710 CE.

Also Amitabha buddha and vishnu were same according to ancient buddhists:

http://bhaktianandascollectedworks.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/krishna-vishnu-revealed-himself-in-both-the-bhagavad-gita-and-the-pure-land-buddhist-saddharma-pundarika/

I am of conclusion that ancient mahayana buddhism that was practised in Pakistan,Afghanistan ,Indonesia ,China might have been forms of shiva or vishnu worship without casteist elements and some socialist elements. Brahminism was a feudalistic form of shiva or vishnu worship.

I am doing my research on the roots of buddhism and I am convinced that ancient buddhism was different than thervada buddhism.I will continue .

 

[Spring Onion]

Will this help in mitigating reservation based proudly claimed low cast tag for jobs??

 

[INDIC]

Well,



Haryana to have replicas of Pak Buddhist sites : The Sunday Guardian | The Buddhist Forum

Buddhist relics have been found in Sindh and likely I believe Buddhism in Sindh might have been some form of shiva buddha worship like the one in indonesia.



Also Amitabha buddha and vishnu were same according to ancient buddhists:

Krishna-Vishnu revealed himself in both the Bhagavad-Gita and the Pure Land Buddhist Saddharma Pundarika | Collected Works of Sri Bhakti Ananda Goswami

I am of conclusion that ancient mahayana buddhism that was practised in Pakistan,Afghanistan ,Indonesia ,China might have been forms of shiva or vishnu worship without casteist elements and some socialist elements. Brahminism was a feudalistic form of shiva or vishnu worship.

I am doing my research on the roots of buddhism and I am convinced that ancient buddhism was different than thervada buddhism.I will continue .

So, it was basically a mixed Hindu-Buddhist practices in Sindh. Thanks for this great reading, I tried to find them on google but I could find when I tried.

 

[Ayush]

Yup.
Budhism is considered a sub sect of Hinduism only by most Hindus. Majority of Hindus deeply revere Budha. Its not considered a religion per se, but a philosophy/way of life.

As long as it is within the Dharmic folds - its still Hinduism.

The issue only arises if a person of Dharmic faith changes religion to Christianity or Islam.
And conversions to Islam are now mostly dead except for Marriage purposes. Now the only conversions are because many Muslims are changing their religion to Budhism or Hinduism.

The issue of Christianity still remains. Christian missionaries are successful in converting tribals to Christians - but the VHP is fighting it. They have been successful to an extent.

u always say that conversion to islam has stopped. can u give a source??

 

[Ayush]

Murgha banao en sab racist upper cast PDF Indians ko

sir,nooooo

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

Good this will teach the so called self proclaimed 'upper caste' pretenders.Demolish the remnants of this evil system.

 

[Hobo1]

wonder why indian dalit never go in for religion of peace.

 

[Shankranthi]

Good this will teach the so called self proclaimed 'upper caste' pretenders.Demolish the remnants of this evil system.

LOL. what will it teach them ?

 

[shiv]

people following dharmic religions are our brothers ! Glad to see people finding their way to GOD and not doing the mistake of follwing adharmic religions

 

[Areesh]

No only Pakistani are allowed to cry like crocodile for Indian muslims but when it come to Chinese muslim all these so called thekedar of islam hide in shame

True. We have learned this hypocrisy from your guys. You are hypocrisy king in this region.