There Was No Reason To Go For Only 8 New F16's:-----

[Super Falcon]

Sir F 35 example u r giving of a jet not fully operational and u are not seeing what operational iss says how short sighted PAF is

SU 30
SU 35
MIG 35
F 18

israel has F 16 But it is not relying on F 16 it has F 15 too to mix the weakness of both jets so whatever wholes left will be filled with both jets
90 percent of Airforces are doing this only PAF nuts im pakistani

We need jet who can penetrate IAF air defence F 16 is not capable jet today

PAF is weakest airforce in asia

Hope coas changes all think tank in airforce who has new ideas and eye on future

When u defend country u buy best F 16 is not best

Quaid said pAF should be 2nd to none but shamfully PAF thinkers dont take this in account buy dudds which make their training easy only

It makes sense from a logistics view as well as Pakistan already having trained F16 pilots, this is a short term deal and I believe Pakistan will look at other options in the future. Compare to India we have experience with French jets like Mirage and Rafale is the next leg up.

Than why F 16 keep F 7PG no need to waste money

The theory ur saying is a theory of a looser and short sightner one day u have to get over it so why not today why give stupid examples

Logistics how much they cost none in return what u get

Look indonesia egypt oman are they stupid do these tiny nation think logistics

Mastan hope we should be given chance to lecture in PAF how to go for job

 

[313baberali]

Sorry , but your thinking & our PAF admin thinking is much behind ?
When Indians will get a deal then you & PAF willbe looking for options ?

Omg !

Wow , it just like when India will attack Islamabad , then we will think ?

BTW november gone , where is our AM visit to Moscow ?


The matter of fact is , our military establishment should , establish some peoples athourity , as a check on their decesions ?
Our COAS will listen to our , AIR CHIEF who would be listening to ???


Then these 26 planes can stop any given aggression by , at least 300 ++ SU-30s , mirrage 2000s , Mig 29s , & other fighter jets in IAF ?
I don't think so !


F-16s tops in which generation ?lolzz

In live stock generation .a idiot answer for idiot questions

 

[batmannow]

In live stock generation .a idiot answer for idiot questions

Sorry ,
Even The best of best idiots , can't let Americans decide or give you , the dam F-16 , doesn't matters which idiot generation are you from ?
Just realise that ?
It is their choice , not ours ?
In case they don't , then what ?
Tell our enemy to ask America to give us F-16s , so we can fight a war with them ???

For peoples like you , if Americans make their , world war 2 fighter jets availble for sale , I'm sure you willbe rocking the moon whole night long ?lolzz
Insane generation !
Keep it up ?

Sir F 35 example u r giving of a jet not fully operational and u are not seeing what operational iss says how short sighted PAF is

SU 30
SU 35
MIG 35
F 18

israel has F 16 But it is not relying on F 16 it has F 15 too to mix the weakness of both jets so whatever wholes left will be filled with both jets
90 percent of Airforces are doing this only PAF nuts im pakistani

We need jet who can penetrate IAF air defence F 16 is not capable jet today

PAF is weakest airforce in asia

Hope coas changes all think tank in airforce who has new ideas and eye on future

When u defend country u buy best F 16 is not best

Quaid said pAF should be 2nd to none but shamfully PAF thinkers dont take this in account buy dudds which make their training easy only


Than why F 16 keep F 7PG no need to waste money

The theory ur saying is a theory of a looser and short sightner one day u have to get over it so why not today why give stupid examples

Logistics how much they cost none in return what u get

Look indonesia egypt oman are they stupid do these tiny nation think logistics

Mastan hope we should be given chance to lecture in PAF how to go for job

Same nut casses in our military , used same insane logic during kargill war when they thought , India wouldn't bring their air force into action ?
For them we have nukes , & thus our enemy wouldn't bother us to attack us from air ,sea ,land !
Its not a joke , you will find a majority of these jokers ?
But for F-16s its their survival after retirement , & the carriers of their kids in USA , their adopted mission is not to let our air force adopt any other fighter jet then of , dam F-16s ?

Not even F-14s ?lolzz
Not ever super sabers with , blk 2015++ upgrades ????lolzz

Hi,

That is what I learnt last year---paf is waiting for iaf decision---and I said WTF---are these men stupid----. Why do they have to wait---. The IAF is going nowhere but the Rafale----paf should have picked out the aircraft two--three years ago---other than the F16----.

Even if the iaf picked out something else----paf still did not have any option to buy whatever it wanted to---.

There is nothing out there available other than the J10C or the SU35---a Eurofighter---maybe---.

The only procurement for the for the F16's should have been pre-owned and refurbished----. For new one---paf should have gone in a diferent direction.

But the problem over here is--that there are no checks and balances over what paf is going to do---. Army does not know about fighter aircraft---the defence minister cannot tell from the front to the back----basically there is a lack of CRITICAL CIVILIAN INPUT or an outsider's input what the paf should procure---and that is a major major problem.

It all can end if we have a president or a PM with a military back ground ?
But again its just a assumption ?
I think , still media can be used to hit the hammer we need , we lack defence media in Pakistan ,, we have political media & we still are able to fight a hard prapoganda war launched on us , by vested western interests , at least general mushraf was visionary so at least we have JF- THUNDER , & wild media with a hope ?
Our love with F-16s has gone down cause we realise the enemy's equation against us , but the so called professionals of our air force are more keen to keep their dam kids in american universities so in the end they can have good retirement time in america ?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Slow and steady wins the race

 

[mikhail ivanovich]

As per a renouned defence journo, these 8 fighters are required to maintain the fleet as 8 old fighters will be cannibalized for spares of the rest of the fleet which are very costly and pakistan airforce has innovatively choosen a cost prohibitive way.

 

[Humble Analyst]

Slow and steady wins the race

There is a difference between slow and sleeping.

PAF No-5 squadron, equipped with 18 Block-52 F-16s is true multi-role unit.
The original order was cut back after the earthquake tragedy, the 18 aircraft delivered have since been carrying out their multi-dimensional duties and achieving results beyond expectations, remember the unit apart from it's combat duties, is also responsible for training the pilots for the Block-52s, hence due to varied commitments, the unit was considered to be somewhat understrength alas a further eight aircraft are being acquired to bring the squadron up to it's full potential.

And the deal is blocked by Congress, so now what? I had predicted this 4-5 months ago.

 

[deckingraj]

There is a difference between slow and sleeping.


And the deal is blocked by Congress, so now what? I had predicted this 4-5 months ago.

I believe Obama can still go ahead...isn't that the case??

 

[MastanKhan]

Slow and steady wins the race

Senor,

That was of the days when I could run a mile just at 5 minutes---and relates more towards slow paced ventures.

Nowadays and since many days---for nations---you have to be quick---you have to be fast and change with the fast paced environment and adjust and understand the changing playing field---and THE CHANGING GOAL POST.

That is how it is now between the west and muslim nations---you look behind you----and your wickets are 10 yds away now and you thought they were behind you and you were protecting them and you see the bowler is throwing the ball over there---and you say " what the hell "---I am here---why is he throwing over there.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

8 new F16 it is now

 

[Super Falcon]

As per a renouned defence journo, these 8 fighters are required to maintain the fleet as 8 old fighters will be cannibalized for spares of the rest of the fleet which are very costly and pakistan airforce has innovatively choosen a cost prohibitive way.

This cost effectiveness theory is bluff if it was the case than JF 17 is rather better than F 16 in both cost and technology Jf 17 blk 3 im talking about

Gone the days when no one asked questions to PAF now nation knows about jets more than they do they cant keep us bluffed

JF 17 project launching reason was that we are not getting F 16 now JF 17 us succes why we are going back to 1983

When PAF Lear

They sometimes want J 10 than reduce F 16 in mushy era at the end they are playing with nation

Im telling u PAF wont go more than hour in war with IAF with these dudds

H

I believe Obama can still go ahead...isn't that the case??

hope he dont

SU 35 is order of need and best available option can go on hit any fighter jet one on one

F 16 was best but against SU 30 and rafales it is flying coffin for pilots since no AESA PAF is making mistake

SU 35 will enhance the capability of PAF both in air and enemy hearts

Only country in the world who went in war twice and have hostile neigbours uses single engine jet only pak yes it happens only in pak

F

Sorry ,
Even The best of best idiots , can't let Americans decide or give you , the dam F-16 , doesn't matters which idiot generation are you from ?
Just realise that ?
It is their choice , not ours ?
In case they don't , then what ?
Tell our enemy to ask America to give us F-16s , so we can fight a war with them ???

For peoples like you , if Americans make their , world war 2 fighter jets availble for sale , I'm sure you willbe rocking the moon whole night long ?lolzz
Insane generation !
Keep it up ?


Same nut casses in our military , used same insane logic during kargill war when they thought , India wouldn't bring their air force into action ?
For them we have nukes , & thus our enemy wouldn't bother us to attack us from air ,sea ,land !
Its not a joke , you will find a majority of these jokers ?
But for F-16s its their survival after retirement , & the carriers of their kids in USA , their adopted mission is not to let our air force adopt any other fighter jet then of , dam F-16s ?

Not even F-14s ?lolzz
Not ever super sabers with , blk 2015++ upgrades ????lolzz


It all can end if we have a president or a PM with a military back ground ?
But again its just a assumption ?
I think , still media can be used to hit the hammer we need , we lack defence media in Pakistan ,, we have political media & we still are able to fight a hard prapoganda war launched on us , by vested western interests , at least general mushraf was visionary so at least we have JF- THUNDER , & wild media with a hope ?
Our love with F-16s has gone down cause we realise the enemy's equation against us , but the so called professionals of our air force are more keen to keep their dam kids in american universities so in the end they can have good retirement time in america ?

fully agree

This is why PDF top elite should send message to COAS to look after these nuts in PAF and PN not letting forces to grow

The cureent PN PAF are not visionary if i be COAS or president send all these stupid home and bfing new energetic future planners in both forces

We lost kargil and 71 war in sea due to their stupid

In 65 we have airforce with aggresive jets and bombers this is why we destroyed IAF forwarding bases their jets never went in air if the IAF flown those jets we never won 65 due to numbers

Currently our PAF us defensive cannot go inside IAF airspacd

Defensive nature will always make u loose history is fulll

Best way of defence is to attack

 

[Cool_Soldier]

PAF is trying to get latest version of F16. Thats better approach.Plus PAF might go for alternative 4.5 generation plane.Possibly, SU 35. A mixture would be good choice.

 

[313baberali]

Sorry ,
Even The best of best idiots , can't let Americans decide or give you , the dam F-16 , doesn't matters which idiot generation are you from ?
Just realise that ?
It is their choice , not ours ?
In case they don't , then what ?
Tell our enemy to ask America to give us F-16s , so we can fight a war with them ???

For peoples like you , if Americans make their , world war 2 fighter jets availble for sale , I'm sure you willbe rocking the moon whole night long ?lolzz
Insane generation !
Keep it up ?


Same nut casses in our military , used same insane logic during kargill war when they thought , India wouldn't bring their air force into action ?
For them we have nukes , & thus our enemy wouldn't bother us to attack us from air ,sea ,land !
Its not a joke , you will find a majority of these jokers ?
But for F-16s its their survival after retirement , & the carriers of their kids in USA , their adopted mission is not to let our air force adopt any other fighter jet then of , dam F-16s ?

Not even F-14s ?lolzz
Not ever super sabers with , blk 2015++ upgrades ????lolzz


It all can end if we have a president or a PM with a military back ground ?
But again its just a assumption ?
I think , still media can be used to hit the hammer we need , we lack defence media in Pakistan ,, we have political media & we still are able to fight a hard prapoganda war launched on us , by vested western interests , at least general mushraf was visionary so at least we have JF- THUNDER , & wild media with a hope ?
Our love with F-16s has gone down cause we realise the enemy's equation against us , but the so called professionals of our air force are more keen to keep their dam kids in american universities so in the end they can have good retirement time in america ?

Sorry ,
for declearing idiot generation?

Even The best of best idiots , can't let Americans decide or give you ,

As the idiot advice not to purchase.

the dam F-16 , doesn't matters which idiot generation are you from .

I am from generation of idiot answers for idiot questions.

Just realise that ?
It is their choice , not ours ?
Our
In case they don't , then what ?
Then next as we added before french tech etc

Tell our enemy to ask America to give us F-16s , so we can fight a war with them ???

Yes ,By the help of Allah we can.

For peoples like you , if Americans make their , world war 2 fighter jets availble for sale , I'm sure you willbe rocking the moon whole night long ?lolzz

Yes why not atleast we rocking the moon ,not polluting Pakistan defence

Insane generation !

Yap for only humans

Keep it up ?
Leaving this up for u

 

[Viper0011.]

It all can end if we have a president or a PM with a military back ground ?

You had MANY and they corrupted your nations BONES!!! And didn't do shiit for the common Pakistani. Not even ONE dam*n project for public welfare in the past 45 years!!!! You can try another episode of those "Presi-Gens" inside your house. The nation is quiet OK with the progress and the growth that's starting to be seen across Pakistan through the civilian rules.

Your military planners have done exactly what they did to the nation. Meaning no work, no up front planning, no execution and no strategy. It's ALWAYS the holly shiit moment and then blame on the civilians of course. That's always the case, find an escape goat called the Civilians!!

 

[batmannow]

Slow and steady wins the race

A country,s defence isn't is the race between 2 Animals ?

You had MANY and they corrupted your nations BONES!!! And didn't do shiit for the common Pakistani. Not even ONE dam*n project for public welfare in the past 45 years!!!! You can try another episode of those "Presi-Gens" inside your house. The nation is quiet OK with the progress and the growth that's starting to be seen across Pakistan through the civilian rules.

Your military planners have done exactly what they did to the nation. Meaning no work, no up front planning, no execution and no strategy. It's ALWAYS the holly shiit moment and then blame on the civilians of course. That's always the case, find an escape goat called the Civilians!!

Sure that's why not a single one of our military rullers been ever procecuted on crouption charges in our country or abroad ?
Face the reality , what Nawaz Sharif or zardaris knowledge about any fighter jet is ? Next to none or just above it ?

 

[Humble Analyst]

PAF is trying to get latest version of F16. Thats better approach.Plus PAF might go for alternative 4.5 generation plane.Possibly, SU 35. A mixture would be good choice.

Oh come on do you know the capabilities of Rafales and Su 30 wake up and come out of the F16 dream. This is a real World and Pakistan needs long endurance and Aesa radar planes.