Sorry i cudn't reply earlier bcz of some service problems due to earthquake. I was talking about relations at deep-state levels.
Now, i know you take great pride in your patriotism and love for the "American dream" but the ground fact down here is that we never screwed America, it was americans that tried to screw us with people like raymond davis etc, letting India influence anti-pak elements through Afghanistan, not providing the Equipment promised in return for our military endeavors, and then we retaliated and screwed them over totally in Afghanistan.
As for our regional shift "ending up as flatulence", i have only this to say that this regional shift is based on concrete relations that include real infrastructure and real mineral resources being exchanged by countries. They are not going to be the same as our relations with US, simply because US never had the raison d'etre for its meddlings in our region. Our relation with the US was always based on us doing more and US giving us lollipops. So your post has no useful facts just like this thread you have started. Do you think you know more than the COAS or ACM? Perhaps we should offer you the PM seat?
@MastanKhan look you already got one fan
Hi,
In a relationship---you can always blame a partner----one time---two times---three times and then as many times as you want to-----.
But it is after the first time---it falls on you if you fail---regardless of what you say. So---it is that moment of enlightenment where you realize that yes " I also have a part to play in it ".
You can come aswinging over here and talk about injustice---those who want to keep you down---they would favor you---but those who want to lift you up---will slap you a couple times so that you can come to your senses.
The problem is neither the U S or the U S public---it is you---you the Pakistani citizen---. You are totally clueless to what your national needs are and where your national loyalty needs to lie.
You people as a nation---have no clue how to manipulate a situation to your advantage---until and unless it does not fill your pockets.
See---you are not the first Pakistani to challenge that---but you are another typical Pakistani---who would come late to the class and start up from point zero----not understanding that the issue has been beaten upto death in the previous years---.
It is a fascinating thing to see----a discussion happens----ideas are exchanged----and then a late comer pops in and wants to RE-START the relay race from the beginning---this is a part and parcel of Pakistani heritage.
You people simply cannot comprehend that the discussion has taken place for ages--you need to go thru that and make adjustments to your thought process.
For me to start all over at this time----it is not a problem per say---because I am sitting home on temporary disability and have all the time at my hands.
But I have sympathy for you guys---I feel sorry for you guys----I feel terrible for you guys---you have no one on the media to tell you the truth---or give you a different version of the scenario.
You all are being fed the same diet of propaganda.
So---tel me---after 9/11--why did you as a nation not stand behind Musharraf 100%----he was the most legitimate person to make the decision---being the commander of the military---he actually knew better than anyone else----how IMPOTENT Pakistan military had become after the sanctions.
You people claim that he went down on one threat---let me ask you guys---after how many CHITTARS do you feel that Pakistan should have capitulated to the U S demands---and how would you know that the U S would have stopped to let you recover.
Did you fools know that the Indians had sent an emissary in an emergency to the U S to take out pakistan at that moment---India had insisted that there was no better moment to castrate and neutralize Pakistan and after the U S is done the indian forces will move in to finish off what was left over----.
Do you guys have any clue how many times and how forcefully the Indians begged the americans to not miss this opportune moment.
Pakistan is fortunate that Mushy had the brains and common sense to understand the threat---well there was not much to understand----. He already saw what happened to Iraq in the first GW.
As for what the U S gave----you never learnt how to manipulate more---and it was because of the attitude of the likes of you and that is at the national level---.
I was in Pakistan in 2007 and saw banners in front of my home town mosque---FOLDED UNDER ONE THREAT
You children should know that CHINGEZ KHAN also gave one warning to Khwarzam Shah to avenge the death of is merchants.
And these were the same frigging mullahs at that time who screwed up the thinking of the Shah as he executed the messengers----and the Khan is supposed to have stated ' does he not know what I will do to him '.
You guys-----as a nation should have been together like the afghan warlords to milk the U S dry---. Those fckrs got 65 billion dollars to train their worthless army---they got themselves over 250 billion dollars as goodwill cash in suitcases and on pellets for their services---because they knew how to use the system----and what did you get--- a paltry 11 billion dollars and that also with all the drama----.
It is you----you the Pakistani---who is to be blamed for that and not the American----.
8 is a odd number . How much are they costing ?
Hi,
Actually 8 is a very lucky number----I am surprised at the choice of this number---.
