There Was No Reason To Go For Only 8 New F16's:-----

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

This news about placing the order of 8 new F 16's came as a surprise from nowhere---. It was not 18---it was not 28---it was not 36----it was not 48---but it was 8 F16's---.

Was this some kind of a joke that the PAF hierarchy is playing on the public of Pakistan. What is the purpose behind the purchase of these 8 aircraft---. If the air force is so confident in the F 16---then why did it not go for another 2 to 3 sqdrn's.

For some strange reason the Pakistani air force is missing at what aircraft is the real need of Pakistan----.

Pakistan air force needs to understand that it is not its needs and desires that need to be met----it is the strategic need of what is important for Pakistan that needs to be acquired and not the other way around---.

The strategic need for Pakistan is a twin engine heavy air superiority and strike aircraft-----that has a loiter time of around 4 + hours---has air to air refueling capabilities or buddy refueling capabilities----and has a strike radius of at least 2000 miles---.

40 years ago----Paf had dedicated bomber aircraft in its fleet----even 33 years ago---they had the bombers----now for some strange reason---this bomber fleet has totally disappeared from the PAF manifest and replaced by smaller aircraft---. Even though these aircraft are very efficient and can carry the load of the 40 old aircraft----but then in comparison---the current day heavies strike aircraft can carry 3---10 times the weight of those bombers.

The PAF air chief needs to come out in the open and talk publicly the reason behind this purchase---because the new F16's don't bring anything new to the table.

The focus should have been on a twin engine like the J11D---The SU35---the Eurofighter. This procurement s just like throwing a monkey wrench into the gears.

8 new F16 bring nothing to the table----they do not change anything in the arena----and neither would 16 f16's either---. But if it were 16 J11's or 16 SU35's----that would start to change the game in the arena---.

The primary procurement at this time should have been a heavy air superiority strike fighter aircraft---and not the lightweight F16.

 

[war&peace]

I really don't understand this decision either.....If they just want to test the block 60 F-16, then even one or two aircrafts would be sufficient and if they really want to add this aircraft to PAF inventory, then buy 3 - 4 squadrons. But 8 is just waste of money and I think this decision is more politically motivated than technical or strategic concerns.

PAF just drop USA and go for other sources Su-35 is a great aircraft and would really strengthen the air defence of Pakistan and strike capability. I really don't know when will they understand; after so many betrayal by USA over the decades and still their behaviour is bad

 

[Indus Falcon]

@MastanKhan Well said. I'm truly disappointed by this news as well. I personally am going over hot coals, waiting for PAF to announce they are going for a twin engine long range aircraft.

 

[war&peace]

@MastanKhan Well said. I'm truly disappointed by this news as well. I personally am going over hot coals, waiting for PAF to announce they are going for a twin engine long range aircraft.

Lets pray Allah give them hidaya and they reach the right decision.

 

[Bindovi]

Hi,

This news about pacing the order of 8 new F 16's came as a surprise from nowhere---. It was not 18---it was not 28---it was not 36----it was not 48---but it was 8 F16's---.

Was this some kind of a joke that the PAF hierarchy is playing on the public of Pakistan. What is the purpose behind the purchase of these 8 aircraft---. If the air force is so confident in the F 16---then why did it not go for another 2 to 3 sqdrn's.

For some strange reason the Pakistani air force is missing at what aircraft is the real need of Pakistan----.

Pakistan air force needs to understand that it is not its needs and desires that need to be met----it is the strategic need of what is important for Pakistan that needs to be acquired and not the other way around---.

The strategic need for Pakistan is a twin engine heavy air superiority and strike aircraft-----that has a loiter time of around 4 + hours---has air to air refueling capabilities or buddy refueling capabilities----and has a strike radius of at least 2000 miles---.

40 years ago----Paf had dedicated bomber aircraft in its fleet----even 33 years ago---they had the bombers----now for some strange reason---this bomber fleet has totally disappeared from the PAF manifest and replaced by smaller aircraft---. Even though these aircraft are very efficient and can carry the load of the 40 old aircraft----but then in comparison---the current day heavies strike aircraft can carry 3---10 times the weight of those bombers.

The PAF air chief needs to come out in the open and talk publicly the reason behind this purchase---because the new F16's don't bring anything new to the table.

The focus should have been on a twin engine like the J11D---The SU35---the Eurofighter. This procurement s just like throwing a monkey wrench into the gears.

8 new F16 bring nothing to the table----they do not change anything in the arena----and neither would 16 f16's either---. But if it were 16 J11's or 16 SU35's----that would start to change the game in the arena---.

The primary procurement at this time should have been a heavy air superiority strike fighter aircraft---and not the lightweight F16.

Business is purely based on the buyer....No loan

 

[Zarvan]

Hi,

This news about pacing the order of 8 new F 16's came as a surprise from nowhere---. It was not 18---it was not 28---it was not 36----it was not 48---but it was 8 F16's---.

Was this some kind of a joke that the PAF hierarchy is playing on the public of Pakistan. What is the purpose behind the purchase of these 8 aircraft---. If the air force is so confident in the F 16---then why did it not go for another 2 to 3 sqdrn's.

For some strange reason the Pakistani air force is missing at what aircraft is the real need of Pakistan----.

Pakistan air force needs to understand that it is not its needs and desires that need to be met----it is the strategic need of what is important for Pakistan that needs to be acquired and not the other way around---.

The strategic need for Pakistan is a twin engine heavy air superiority and strike aircraft-----that has a loiter time of around 4 + hours---has air to air refueling capabilities or buddy refueling capabilities----and has a strike radius of at least 2000 miles---.

40 years ago----Paf had dedicated bomber aircraft in its fleet----even 33 years ago---they had the bombers----now for some strange reason---this bomber fleet has totally disappeared from the PAF manifest and replaced by smaller aircraft---. Even though these aircraft are very efficient and can carry the load of the 40 old aircraft----but then in comparison---the current day heavies strike aircraft can carry 3---10 times the weight of those bombers.

The PAF air chief needs to come out in the open and talk publicly the reason behind this purchase---because the new F16's don't bring anything new to the table.

The focus should have been on a twin engine like the J11D---The SU35---the Eurofighter. This procurement s just like throwing a monkey wrench into the gears.

8 new F16 bring nothing to the table----they do not change anything in the arena----and neither would 16 f16's either---. But if it were 16 J11's or 16 SU35's----that would start to change the game in the arena---.

The primary procurement at this time should have been a heavy air superiority strike fighter aircraft---and not the lightweight F16.

Their is no joke here even our budget reaches 100 billion dollars and we can induct hundreds of SU-35 and J-10 C still PAF also keep inducting F-16 also

 

[sonicboom]

Calm down folks. USA has made an offer to sell but Pakistan has not yet accepted the offer.

 

[MastanKhan]

Business is purely based on the buyer....No loan

Hi,

Please indulge your self a little bit more with us mortal souls----. Your 1/2 liner just went away over my head----. Thank you.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I don't know much about these things but we should have some confidence in PAF command. We know little. They know the full picture.

If I was to hazard a guess I would say these F-16s are a stop gap measure for until major change down the road. F-16 is a potent fighter and in addition to the present fleet we have makes economic sense till over the horizon times comes for next generation fighter. That is when major change will take place.

Don't shoot me if what I said makes no sense. I admit I know dick*shit on this subject. My major is all things India in particular all things ugly India like starvation and human beasts of India pulling rickshaws.

*Anybody want enlightening on those subjects give us a shout. I will be happy to give "full spectrum" presentation.

 

[Bindovi]

Their is no joke here even our budget reaches 100 billion dollars and we can induct hundreds of SU-35 and J-10 C still PAF also keep inducting F-16 also

If you keep on ranting Tactical , Asymmetrical , symmetrical all day....., I don't think so India will let you reach 20 billion , the golden figure for a country of your size.

Forget SU-35 and J-10 C ... keep the current F-16 safe...
RISAT-2 is watching while you are sleeping.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Hi,

Please indulge your self a little bit more with us mortal souls----. Your 1/2 liner just went away over my head----. Thank you.

It's called "chawal"

 

[MastanKhan]

@MastanKhan Well said. I'm truly disappointed by this news as well. I personally am going over hot coals, waiting for PAF to announce they are going for a twin engine long range aircraft.

Hi,

Paf needs to understand that what they might like is different than what the needs of Pakistan are----.

Paf may be happy with this aircraft---but Pakistan the nation---needs a right in your face kind of air superiority aircraft like yesterday.

This news is extremely disappointing and disconcerting---it shows a total lack of understanding on the part of Pakistan air force to what the ground are and that is not good.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Pakistan has not ordered/requested any new F16 lately what Obama is preparing to sell eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan in an attempt to bolster the two countries' relationship and that's it. This possible new developments is something probably Pakistan was not expecting either. Just consider them as few embargoed ones and keep looking for new acquisition of considerable order(s) either Chinese or Russian(if possible).

I really don't believe that PAF has officially requested US for good number of planes and in for that reply US is just offering us 8. So to me its just a good will gesture offer.

 

[MastanKhan]

Pakistan has not ordered/requested any new F16 lately what Obama is preparing to sell eight F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan in an attempt to bolster the two countries' relationship and that's it. This possible new developments is something probably Pakistan was next expecting either. Just consider them as few embargoed ones and keep looking for new acquisition for considerable orders either Chinese or Russian(if possible).

I really don't believe that PAF has officially requested US for good number of planes and in reply US is just offering us 8. So to me its just a good will gesture offer.

Hi,

So---what was the air chief doing in washington DC for so many days----.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Hi,

So---what was the air chief doing in washington DC for so many days----.

He will be visiting Russia in Nov as well. So we can expect Su35 talks from him than.

8 just doesn't make any sense if we really are short of planes. Yes for war on terror and restoring faith in between the two countries, 8 will do that job.