I wish someday India and Pakistan unite too...lol.
In the past I have earned brickbats for saying that.
but it is a most noble and sensible wish... the partition was arranged by usa and britain for their need of not having yet another place influenced by socialism... nehru and jinnah were very intelligent people... but their egos were supremely used by the enemy.
for years, there has been a practical reunification solution... the name of the man doesn't matter... he spoke from a neutral perspective... and like me, he is a man of many words...
the solution to the problem of india, pakistan, kashmir... "greater india"... or some other unification name...
from... (
Al Gaddafi speaks - English / Kashmir: The Definitive Solution ), i quote...
"Kashmir, Bhutan, Nepal, Pakistan, Bangladesh, the Maldives, Sri Lanka and India will all be subsumed in a future giant entity of the Indian subcontinent along the lines of the European Union, African Union, and ASEAN."
"Each one of the giant entities that will replace the nation states and make up the new world, will have its single army, security structures, single market, single currency, single central bank, and most importantly a single negotiating position with the other similar giant entities."
and that was from 2002... don't miss the solutions on the site for israel-palestine ( called isratine, white book ) and for korea... there are many other great speeches and essays.
for more recent solution to kashmir...
Kashmir should be independent state: Gaddafi - Rediff.com India News
Is Gaddafi’s U.N. speech winning him a fan base in Kashmir? | India Insight
all the above may be relatively old writings, but they do say that there have been solutions but others did not accept them but preferred to continue fighting like five year old kids... the age of 13 is when nature changes us to adult, but many in the world have missed adulthood...
You sound like one.
thank you.
Every movement starts with a leader and few followers and then soon the leader becomes a hero and a generation later hes declared the god..and then it becomes a religion.
that reminds me of the best series of science fiction books ever written... the "dune" series, written by frank herbert from the 1960's to 1980's... they have the islami mythology of the "second coming" of jesus christ, who was prophesized to appear again as the "imaam mahdi".
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Multani had mentioned this aspect once but i want to go beyond old mysticisms...
believe me, the language and the imagery of the "dune" series is so very simple, sophisticated, so understanding of human emotions and politics, with naturality of technological progress... you can easily think of these books as one of human history's best epics... i do not exaggerate... if you must pick up the first book, "dune", you will see it... actually, this series is the more serious inspiration for the later silly "star wars" films.
Or lets just build over it...
absolutely... we must build a by-pass road over the old religions.
the cultural aspects like music, poetry and reasonable dresses can be retained... but that which divides, is unjust, bores and makes us go
must be removed.
Sarcasm eh?
You do know what they lack....they lack the will to let their ppl live a life which is not governed by them.
actually, the north korean administration did very well to not allow western ( and allied ) tv channels and jam the cia propaganda radio stations ( radio free asia, radio liberty, bbc world service ) because the foolish among the north koreans would have been crazy about drugs and rock-n-roll, and would have become used by cia and mi6 to destabilize their society and effect regime-change... just like what happened in east germany, tiananmen square, soviet union, afghanistan, iraq, venezeula and libyan jamahiriya.
just yesterday, another of the south korea propaganda methods against the north was effected... releasing 200,000 balloons attached with anti-socialist leaflets, let loose across the border... the south, i think, uses another method too... loudspeakers shouting across the border.
the below people are the kind of drones i see in bangloare... fake-book types, whatsapp types... disconnected with others immediately and in the world... spending their life in mindless pursuits... rude and foolish...
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Desertfalcon, the above is also one reply to you... i will reply in more detail a bit later.
I've no idea how to go about it.
you people must allow me to guide first... we discuss here or elsewhere, gathering more people, all nationalities welcome... all decisions are by common sense and consensus ( real democracy and equality )... we can meet ( in bangalore, say ), all nationalities welcome... we discuss and use our talents for this common and sensible cause... we act... that is how revolutionary changes have always happened, a most natural way...
Don't get me curious now...who 're you and why are you on this forum???
i am just one of the participants in a specific form of socialism, the "world jamahiriya" movement, where people from many nations ( east to west ) have gathered 2011 onwards, working in groups or individually, working to bring jamahiriya "direct democracy" to at least a good number of humanity via
peaceful means, maybe within the next five years or so... i just happen to have a bit more capabilities than the others, in many fields ( computing, agriculture etc )... i am not being vain, just sincere...
this forum is quite a unique place, you will agree... the members are international, agreeing on some things, fighting on other things, not only on military issues but also on others... not many forums like this... so i thought i can turn these international members to a good cause... a unified humanity... a good place for that, i think.
also, some years back when i was a non-member, i saw a post by @
pak-marine about pakistani socialism in the 1970-1990 period... he will remember that now, i think... i read that post and thought... there was real direct-action before in other parts of south asia and there can be that still... so i joined this year.
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Akheilos, i am confused by your hostility... was my post not addressing your very concerns?? why does your angry post appear to me to be a case of "kahin pe nigaahen, kahin pe nishaana"??
3) people rule themselves...How is that beneficial? So far what has that achieved though I would appreciate it if 1 and 2 really was abolished!
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yes... money system and family system are obsolete... they must be abolished.
but you do not like "free will"?? do you have no contibutions and suggestions to make to society?? we live among humans and should be contributing members, not drones who allow capitalist corporations, slaves of unjust traditions and war-mongering governments to continue for another 500 years?? enough of that, yes??
we must not allow a representative form of government where some "career politician" will patronizingly and remotely take decisions "on our behalf" but decisions which we don't want at all.
we the people must therefore rule ourselves... real democracy... direct democracy...
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please read this simple and direct manifesto... (
Refworld | Libya: Great Green Charter of Human Rights of the Jamahiriyan Era ).
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i think this thread should be made sticky.