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Right, your father is the one who is issuing the Visas to all those 'co-religious', right?!!Hindus never go to 'Islamic republic' countries either Sickulars or ME co-religious go there.... i least care about both of their lives forget about their jobs.
Oh so that Saudi Journalist is talking about your kind - the dying breed.Republic is NO 1 CHANNEL WITH MORE THAN 50% VIEWERSHIP,Arnab is No1 Anchor in India
@ali_raza Check video especially at 21.30 onwards w.r.t. Oman. Need your comments.
Republic is NO 1 CHANNEL WITH MORE THAN 50% VIEWERSHIP,Arnab is No1 Anchor in India ... the sire or those shitty portals hardly get 0.1% viewers and they are Quranic truth for u
We don't have proper demarcation border and no Indian or Nepali need even Visa to visit either side and u talk about they hate us based on 1/2 stupid comments??
Hindus never go to 'Islamic republic' countries either Sickulars or ME co-religious go there.... i least care about both of their lives forget about their jobs.
Republic is NO 1 CHANNEL WITH MORE THAN 50% VIEWERSHIP,Arnab is No1 Anchor in India ...
India is FREE country.
How many Afghans are working in Pakistan government jobs? Or, do the Pakistan army conduct direct recruitment from Afghanistan? Is Chief of ANA honorary chief of Pakistan Army, do you have an open border policy with Afghanistan? Is PKR a valued currency in Afghanistan? Can Afghan national live in Pakistan indefinitely and work or study almost like a Pak citizen? If the answer to all of this is no, then your relationship with Afghanistan is not the same as India's relationship with Nepal.You mean the way Pakistan and Afghanistan have had through out history?
Or, do the Pakistan army conduct direct recruitment from Afghanistan?
Is Chief of ANA honorary chief of Pakistan Army,
do you have an open border policy with Afghanistan?
Is PKR a valued currency in Afghanistan?
Can Afghan national live in Pakistan indefinitely and work or study almost like a Pak citizen?
If the answer to all of this is no, then your relationship with Afghanistan is not the same as India's relationship with Nepal.
False equivalence is all you got. Save it.Well your government claims that we do.
Hiring mercenaries from downtrodden regions isn't that big a deal. Especially when both the countries are following a legacy left behind by the once colonial conquerors of the region.
Did you or did you not read the Honorary? There's plenty of things you can read on 'Google' to understand what Honorary really means.A quasi vassal state confers a meaningless honor on its pseudo-hegemon. I'm sure they are falling head over heals.
More false equivalence. Having a policy is different from having pole vaulters. Don't ask for example, can't do it without offending some nationals.For decades, I believe since independence.
Opium - Poppy is also widely cultivated and used in Afghanistan, and is exchanged for guns, rockets etcetra, doesn't make it legal tender."Pakistani Rupee, Iranian Rail and the U.S. dollar have vast usage in Afghanistan markets." Not just value, it is actually used in day to day Afghan business and life.
http://www.outlookafghanistan.net/topics.php?post_id=25795
Ditto living "illegally" after crossing to Pakistan without a valid passport or visa is different from having free movement of citizens.Millions of them have been for the better part of half a century now.
But let's talk more about the so called "Indo-Nepal Treaty of Peace and Friendship" which gives you those 'rights'.
"This treaty is called unequal by most Nepalese since Nepalese law does not permit an open border, and Indians, by law, should not be able to buy lands and properties in Nepal or carry out businesses in their names. They claim that the 1950 treaty was signed by undemocratic rulers of Nepal and can be scrapped by a one-year notice. The treaty has been unpopular especially among Pahari segments of Nepal, who often regard it as a breach of its sovereignty. Also, agreements were manipulated in the favour of antidemocratic autocratic rule of Nepal, where the power of the people is fragmented."
"Nepal has never been faithful to the treaty. It has always wanted to abrogate it."
"It has been Nepal’s contention that the treaty gave offence to China, that it reduced Nepal’s sovereignty and that it reflected a relationship with India that Nepal was uncomfortable with. These explain why Nepal has not invoked the treaty and why Nepali Prime Minister Sher Bahadur Deuba did not even mention the treaty while he was in India recently."
"Although initially supported enthusiastically by both the Rana rulers and Indian establishment, the treaty became the subject of increased resentment in Nepal, which saw it as an encroachment of its sovereignty and an unwelcome extension of Indian influence.[4] After an abortive attempt in 1952 of the Communist Party of Nepal to overthrow the autocratic Rana rule with Chinese backing, India and the Rana regime stepped up military and intelligence cooperation under treaty provisions, and India sent a military mission to Nepal which was regarded by leftist Nepalese as an undue extension of Indian influence in Nepal.[4] In the late 1950s and the 1960s, after the advent of democracy in Nepal, it and China forged better relations, and relations with India deteriorated. Nepal forced the Indian military mission to leave, and both nations began ignoring the treaty provisions."
There's more on there. Feel free to give it a read.
Little goodwill for Nepal in India
1950 Indo-Nepal Treaty of Peace and Friendship
Yeah, you do that. Not reply based on feelz, but based on what documents/legal agreements say, next time maybe, hate to waste my time schooling people on basics.So, as you can see, it's always well-advised to use google before posting childishly myopic claims. Saves you from wasting everyone's time.
One can easily find the reality, even from Indian sources.
What Nepal’s New Aggression Reveals For India And Its Neighbours.
We don't hire Mercenaries they're full-blown soldiers, the army is just one example. There is plenty of other government organization who hires Nepalis. Works in the 'non-combat' department.
Did you or did you not read the Honorary? There's plenty of things you can read on 'Google' to understand what Honorary really means.
More false equivalence. Having a policy is different from having pole vaulters. Don't ask for example, can't do it without offending some nationals.
Opium - Poppy is also widely cultivated and used in Afghanistan, and is exchanged for guns, rockets etcetra, doesn't make it legal tender.
Ditto living "illegally" after crossing to Pakistan without a valid passport or visa is different from having free movement of citizens.
And there are dime a dozen opeds with rhetorics against India.
Nepal have a love-hate relationship with India. But it's more of the local politics.
Yeah, you do that. Not reply based on feelz, but based on what documents/legal agreements
say, next time maybe, hate to waste my time schooling people on basics.
This is a defense forum, I wish you use the same Google to understand a few things about Gurkhas. A Gurkha hired in the Indian army, not just IA but in the British Army or the US is not a mercenary but a soldier with ranks and benefits.Sure you don't. Citizens of another company come to fight for your military for money, they surely are not mercenaries.
It is meaningless when you don't get respect. The politics aside, do check how both armies are when it comes to mutual respect and agreement. Neither of us fires mortars/artillery which seems to be your situation with Afghanistan.So you agree that it's meaningless.
Precisely my point, you 'had'. We had Sikkim as a country, we had Portugal as a neighbor down in Goa among other things, Nepal had a King until 2008. Are they relevant now in this discussion? If you check what's the point of contention again, Nepal - India relation vis Pak - Afg relation. Talk about embarrassing oneself.As I said before, would do you some good if you started using google before embarrassing yourself over and over again. Pakistan and Afghanistan had an open border by policy for more than half a century. At the border crossings, Pakistanis and Afghans did not need any visa, just an ID. The main reason why the Pak-Afghan border was left unguarded for 50+ years. The visa was introduced when some less friendlier types started crossing over.
It's not rocket science, it's as simple as what is being approved by the government of the two countries. There's illegal currency trade happening in a lot of countries, I don't think they'd compare it to a legal exchange of currencies. The only hilarious thing here is you clutching at straws and in the end proving the lawlessness nature in Afghanistan - Pakistan borders.Goes even further to show the "value", as you put it, of Pakistani currency in Afghanistan. So much so that it made you try to scurry away from the fact in such a childishly hilarious manner.
Irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, you don't have an open border policy with Afghanistan.Already addressed. Apart from the fact that the majority of these Afghans crossed over through the border crossings. Around 2 million of them are registered, i.e. legal.
I don't have to read an essay to convince myself of a few simple facts which your oped do not seem to cover. I'm not saying it's all hunky and dory with Nepal in terms of a relationship. But, comparing your relationship with Afghanistan to that of India and Nepal is quite wrong on so many accounts, I'll explain it once and for all moving forward.So, you didn't read them. I'm beginning to think that it's less about your prowess with google and more about your aversion to actual facts, or maybe even knowledge in general. Those Opeds clearly mention the government and the people of Nepal's policy towards that agreement which you tried to tout as the foremost proof Indo-Nepalese bonhomie. Mentions the official Indian Government's acknowledgement of the issue and their agreement to renegotiate it as well.
I never claimed such a thing in the first place. I contested the simple fact that your issues with Afghanistan who accuse you of terrorism (vise versa) and what not is on a whole another level (lower) compared to what we have with Nepal.Good. So from defending "Nepal and the Nepalese love India", you have come down to its a "love-hate relationship". That was the whole argument and discussion right there.
Apart from the fact that local politics is the only real marker to gauge the on ground sentiment since it, by nature, plays directly to it.
Ugh! You're seriously quoting an opinion as fact. Let me break it down so that you can comprehend it.The uneducated and devoid of all reality statements that you've been throwing around or the "legal agreement" that Nepal has refused to call upon through out its history? No thanks, bud.
This is a defense forum, I wish you use the same Google to understand a few things about Gurkhas. A Gurkha hired in the Indian army, not just IA but in the British Army or the US is not a mercenary but a soldier with ranks and benefits.
It is meaningless when you don't get respect. The politics aside, do check how both armies are when it comes to mutual respect and agreement. Neither of us fires mortars/artillery which seems to be your situation with Afghanistan.
Precisely my point, you 'had'. We had Sikkim as a country, we had Portugal as a neighbor down in Goa among other things, Nepal had a King until 2008. Are they relevant now in this discussion? If you check what's the point of contention again, Nepal - India relation vis Pak - Afg relation.
Talk about embarrassing oneself.
It's not rocket science, it's as simple as what is being approved by the government of the two countries. There's illegal currency trade happening in a lot of countries, I don't think they'd compare it to a legal exchange of currencies. The only hilarious thing here is you clutching at straws and in the end proving the lawlessness nature in Afghanistan - Pakistan borders.
Irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, you don't have an open border policy with Afghanistan.
I don't have to read an essay to convince myself of a few simple facts which your oped do not seem to cover. I'm not saying it's all hunky and dory with Nepal in terms of a relationship. But, comparing your relationship with Afghanistan to that of India and Nepal is quite wrong on so many accounts, I'll explain it once and for all moving forward.
I never claimed such a thing in the first place.
I contested the simple fact that your issues with Afghanistan who accuse you of terrorism (vise versa) and what not is on a whole another level (lower) compared to what we have with Nepal.
Ugh! You're seriously quoting an opinion as fact. Let me break it down so that you can comprehend it.
Can Indians travel to Nepal with a simple ID card? Yes. Can Nepalis travel to India with an ID card? Yes.
Do Nepalis accuse us of Terrorism? No. Do Indian and Nepali security agencies work in tandem? Yes. Does the Indian and Nepali army do joint patrols? Yes. India's intel and security cooperation with Nepal runs deep, political rhetorics aside, the cooperation between both countries both in business as well as security is incomparable with what Pakistan has with even China, that's also for Pakistanis who see an opportunity there, remember what happened to your diplomat and Col Habib of ISI who allegedly went missing in Nepal.
Can Afghans travel to Pakistan with a simple ID card? No (requires passport and visa) Can Afghans work for Pak government, or apply for a job in any government sector? No (Only for citizens of Pakistan can do that).
ANA engage in border conflicts with Pakistan fires Shells into Pakistan. Even in PDF there are countless threads/comments on why Afghanistan 'hates' Pakistan and vise versa.
Now tell me, how are these relationships even comparable?
That's it for me, I spend enough time on this topic, if you still think it's the SAME be my guest, I get where that's coming from.