The weridest part of China's protests is: Poeple ask government to stop its efforts. Instead make effort.

[Hamartia Antidote]

Easy to explain. USA is of course the hand under the table. USA desperately needs an excuse to unrest China. Even it's "please have a rest" excuse. As long as it could instigate people's emotion, USA will grasp it.

Yes, it's true the Chinese people are weak-minded sheep with no cognitive ability to think on their own.

The US government luckily can easily step in and with a quick snap of the finger convince everybody there is a problem..when "obviously" there isn't.

Just waiting for the secret weapon day when the CIA convinces everybody in China to do the "short" swim to Taiwan to reclaim it.

 

[nahtanbob]

I said again. Do you know why this color revolution is bound to fail? Because most Chinese don't hate zero covid policy.

zero covid is unrealistic. Life is back to normal in USA

US achieved herd community, by letting every single American get infected by the covid, cheap and easy approach.

Just 1 in 20 people in the U.S. have dodged COVID infection so far, study says

There are two big reasons the infection rate has reached this surprising level, according to the researchers.

www.mercurynews.com

you need good vaccines. Otherwise 10 million people would be dead

 

[etylo]

Did I say COVID has zero effect? No. You're making that shit up. COVID is going to cause deaths and hospitalization, but it is no excuse to continue putting the entire population in random lockdowns. People are tired of this policy and the disruption it has on their lives and economy.

Xi failed the country in 3 ways.

1. Failed to vaccinate the elderly properly.
2. Failed to import more effective mRNA vaccines to save face.
3. Failed to prepare more ICU and hospital resources.

So now CPC is in a corner. They can either drop Zero COVID or they can get overthrown.

Either way, it's a governing failure by Xi.

You are just delusional as you are extreme as usual.

 

[etylo]

A greater failure: mRNA vaccines will soon be available as a choice only for foreigners in China. It's quite obvious at this point Xi is putting his face and politics above his people's lives.

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Its not the fk vaccines problem in china, countries like pakistan, indonesia and many others in the world are mainly using chinese vaccines to fight the virus and yet they are managing the pandemic well in these countries. Taiwan mainly use western vaccines, yet there are still large number of deaths at least about 50 deaths a day and 30k infections a day for quite some time now.

 

[Dungeness]

Yes, it's true the Chinese people are weak-minded sheep with no cognitive ability to think on their own.

lol, it's like saying europeans are weaker people so they need to believe some higher being to survive. Average Chinerse are much more open minded than average American, and they are more likely to seek alternative sources of information, since they KNOW state media are propoganda. How many americans are aware that free media (aka corporate media) is also a tool of propoganda?

 

[Mista]

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Who Is Dying from COVID Now and Why

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Other than demographics, I don't trust the statistics coming out from developing countries with poor healthcare surveillance system.

Look at this:

You believe that India with 1.4bil people is only reporting 2-4 deaths from Covid?

Or Pakistan with 200mil+ people reporting basically 0 deaths for the past 2 weeks?

 

[gambit]

lol, it's like saying europeans are weaker people so they need to believe some higher being to survive. Average Chinerse are much more open minded than average American, and they are more likely to seek alternative sources of information, since they KNOW state media are propoganda. How many americans are aware that free media (aka corporate media) is also a tool of propoganda?

Am positive that if you guys show the Chinese people that one million Americans died from COVID, then instantly, like Thanos snapped his fingers, all COVID related protests in China will stop and the Chinese people will return to being obedient to the Party like before.

 

[Iron Shrappenel]

Many people, especially China or Xi's haters, haven't made their logic clear. The protects are actually to ask Chinese government to stop its efforts. This is like a boss tells his employee"Stop your work and take a rest. Or I'll fire you". Isn't this easiest choice to make? For those who asked Xi to quit, will they be happy if Xi leaves his office and goes to bed watching World Cup?

This is weirdest political movement I have even seen. How could that happen. Easy to explain. USA is of course the hand under the table. USA desperately needs an excuse to unrest China. Even it's "please have a rest" excuse. As long as it could instigate people's emotion, USA will grasp it.

Is there no one to replace Xi ? Is Xi more important than the anger of the Chinese people... ?

 

[Dungeness]

Am positive that if you guys show the Chinese people that one million Americans died from COVID, then instantly, like Thanos snapped his fingers, all COVID related protests in China will stop and the Chinese people will return to being obedient to the Party like before.

Chinese are more tolerant but never obedient, and that's how CCP got started in the first place. For a country of 1.4 billion, there is no easy answer to covid. the government just has to make a tough decision to take the lesser of evils. For a country with its much inferior medical system comparing to that of USA, people actually visit doctors more often per capita per year. So the medical system collaps is easily predictable should China adopte that same covid policy as US, then there will be mass protestd in much bigger scale only after the loss of a few million lives. We have some family members back in China in their 80's and 90's with health issues, we are grateful none of them perished in this pandemic.

From Chinese point of view, it's Americans who are so obedient that they just accept the loss of million lives as nothing happened. Chinese simply won't take that.

 

[gambit]

Chinese are more tolerant but never obedient, and that's how CCP got started in the first place.

The Party ordered Chinese farmers to adopt Lysenkoism, and they discarded thousands of yrs of agricultural knowledge and took on Soviet pseudo-science. Just for starter...

From Chinese point of view, it's Americans who are so obedient that they just accept the loss of million lives as nothing happened. Chinese simply won't take that.

Then you guys should take my 'advice' and post that one million American COVID deaths to the Chinese protesters. It should stop immediately, right?

 

[Dungeness]

The Party ordered Chinese farmers to adopt Lysenkoism, and they discarded thousands of yrs of agricultural knowledge and took on Soviet pseudo-science. Just for starter...


Then you guys should take my 'advice' and post that one million American COVID deaths to the Chinese protesters. It should stop immediately, right?

There was a time, Chinese simply comply to the party out of good faith. That was then.

Chinese have much higher expectation for government than average American do to theirs. It won't help.

 

[etylo]

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Who Is Dying from COVID Now and Why

Nearly three years into the pandemic, COVID’s mortality burden is growing in certain groups of people

www.scientificamerican.com

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Other than demographics, I don't trust the statistics coming out from developing countries with poor healthcare surveillance system.

Look at this:

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You believe that India with 1.4bil people is only reporting 2-4 deaths from Covid?

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Or Pakistan with 200mil+ people reporting basically 0 deaths for the past 2 weeks?

You just convienently not to mention that most of SG who took Chinese vaccines are old senoirs for fearing complications of taking other western vaccines, and thus you have those suppose low number of efficacy. You forget to mention that for taking three doses of chinese vaccines, the efficacy is much higher.

If you dont trust indian number, its reasonable, they are taking western and their own vaccines. For pakistan and many other countries, they are mainly taking chinese vaccines, if chinese vaccines are no good, not all of them should be fine as reported, china has exported billions of vaccines so far, you cant accuse all those countries of lying. You SG are western worshippers, that tells many things.

Is there no one to replace Xi ? Is Xi more important than the anger of the Chinese people... ?

Its better to replace you ignorance and delusion with facts and reason.

 

[nahtanbob]

lol, it's like saying europeans are weaker people so they need to believe some higher being to survive. Average Chinerse are much more open minded than average American, and they are more likely to seek alternative sources of information, since they KNOW state media are propoganda. How many americans are aware that free media (aka corporate media) is also a tool of propoganda?

simple question: Are the Chinese made vaccines effective against Covid ?

 

[Dungeness]

simple question: Are the Chinese made vaccines effective against Covid ?

I have no idea. Judging from the life in my home town in South China (never locked down), and the response of my wechat groups (hundreads of people all over China), the answer must be yes.

 

[Mista]

You just convienently not to mention that most of SG who took Chinese vaccines are old senoirs for fearing complications of taking other western vaccines

You think the ministry is so stupid to do a study without adjustments?

There are plenty of studies out there, not just from Singapore or HK. Continue coping.

You SG are western worshippers, that tells many things.

Lmao such narrow-mindedness. Citing multiple studies which indicates superiority of mRNA vaccines = western worshipper. Yeah, all studies done above are done by western worshippers.